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Re: Divisional Round Thread 

Post#621 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:05 am

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Lamar was beyond clutch this game and I feel bad for him.

Honestly Lamar had one of the greatest seasons of any QB this year. He should win MVP.

Absolutely.


I need to hear BJJ opinion on this.

Are you kidding? He hates both Allen & Lamar. He's not the best source.
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Re: Divisional Round Thread 

Post#622 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:07 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:Absolutely.


I need to hear BJJ opinion on this.

Are you kidding? He hates both Allen & Lamar. He's not the best source.

BJJ's opinion is needed



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Re: Divisional Round Thread 

Post#623 » by Wallace_Wallace » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:08 am

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Wallace_Wallace wrote:Since they both started playing (7seasons)
Josh Allen received 38 roughing the passing penalty
Patrick Mahomes received 31

Josh Allen played 121 games
Patrick Mahomes played 131

https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughing-the-passer-by-qb.php?view=active

So not only Allen gets a friendly whistle than Mahomes, but he also played less games. The stat likely hasn’t updated since yesterday, so Mahomes still trails Allen 33-38 on that department



Those raw numbers don't indicate how many of them were legit calls and which ones were BS like the ones yesterday.



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Post#624 » by azcatz11 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:10 am

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Post#625 » by JigenDaisuke » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:13 am

Mahomes VS Daniels would be a good matchup. I'm fully expecting it to be Chiefs VS Eagles though.
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Post#626 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:13 am

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The Chiefs essentially replaced the Patriots.
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Post#627 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:15 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:lol at anyone blaming Lamar after that finish


Lamar was beyond clutch this game and I feel bad for him.

Honestly Lamar had one of the greatest seasons of any QB this year. He should win MVP.


My updated qb rankings if I’m playing the SB:

Mahomes
Josh Allen / lamar

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Post#628 » by therealbig3 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:16 am

Lamar had a good game, but let’s stop pretending like he played no part in this loss. It was a dropped Andrews 2 pt conversion from being a tie game. You don’t think if he didn’t turn it over twice it wouldn’t have made a difference?

I mean, he played well, but didn’t play like an MVP. Which is a continued trend for him in the playoffs. It is what it is.

For that matter, I thought Buffalo got lucky the Ravens turned it over 3 times, they got bailed out by that drop.

Idk I came away from this game not overly impressed with either Allen or Lamar. I’d say Allen played a little better because of taking care of the ball better, but he wasn’t that impressive overall either. He didn’t do anything in the 2nd half.
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Post#629 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:17 am

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Andrews had a critical fumble though and dropped the tie when they had momentum. Andrews should be released tonight
Who cares, Andrews is a nobody, in the grand scheme.

Lamar has to protect the ball, period. He is the leader, he is the 3x MVP, he is the guy making $260 million.

Everyone focuses on this final dropped 2 point conversion but they missed the other attempt earlier in the game too.


Lamar is throwing to bums without flowers. He made so much happen with his legs. Henry looked okay.

I honestly think Lamar went up a notch in my book after this performance: he was the whole offense.

I’m pro Lamar
Him and Harbaugh probably shoulda put it in Henry's belly a little more often tonight.

His fumble was on a pass play and obviously his INT was on a pass play.

Probably shoulda ran it himself or gave it to Henry on the first 2pt attempt too.
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Post#630 » by Mr Swagtastic » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:19 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:The Lamar playoff narrative lives on.

Dude, he drove them down the field & scored. Not his fault his TE let his team down. The fumble & drop by Andrews was the deciding factors.
That's what I am saying the pick and fumble didn't help but Jackson went down and that td throw to Likely was insane. Andrews is probably cut or dealt in the offseason
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Post#631 » by Mr Swagtastic » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:22 am

If Buffalo wins the superbowl it might rival the Raptors championship parade numbers. I was there in Toronto and must have been 3-4 million people like it was Insane
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Re: Divisional Round Thread 

Post#632 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:24 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:The Lamar playoff narrative lives on.

Dude, he drove them down the field & scored. Not his fault his TE let his team down. The fumble & drop by Andrews was the deciding factors.
That's what I am saying the pick and fumble didn't help but Jackson went down and that td throw to Likely was insane. Andrews is probably cut or dealt in the offseason

Andrews is one of the better TE's in the game. But this game will haunt him for a bit.
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Post#633 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:26 am

therealbig3 wrote:Lamar had a good game, but let’s stop pretending like he played no part in this loss. It was a dropped Andrews 2 pt conversion from being a tie game. You don’t think if he didn’t turn it over twice it wouldn’t have made a difference?

I mean, he played well, but didn’t play like an MVP. Which is a continued trend for him in the playoffs. It is what it is.

For that matter, I thought Buffalo got lucky the Ravens turned it over 3 times, they got bailed out by that drop.

Idk I came away from this game not overly impressed with either Allen or Lamar. I’d say Allen played a little better because of taking care of the ball better, but he wasn’t that impressive overall either. He didn’t do anything in the 2nd half.
Thank you! People trying to make Lamar blameless in the loss is mind boggling.
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Post#634 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:41 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:Thank you! People trying to make Lamar blameless in the loss is mind boggling.

He's not totally blameless. But to say that he fell short again & can't do it or isn't clutch is nonsense. When he drove them down the field to tie the game. Especially If Andrews makes that catch & converts the two-point conversion. Who know's what ultimately happens at that point? Maybe they go on to win. He had the two turnovers in the first half. But was practically flawless in the second half & down the stretch.
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Post#635 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:47 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Thank you! People trying to make Lamar blameless in the loss is mind boggling.

He's not totally blameless. But to say that he fell short again & can't do it or isn't clutch is nonsense. When he drove them down the field to tie the game. Especially If Andrews makes that catch & converts the two-point conversion. Who Know's what happens at that point? Maybe they go on to win. He had the two turnovers. But was practically flawless in the second half.
He did fall short, what do you mean?

Bills scored 6 points off his fumble.

The INT completely shifted momentum.

His deflected pass attempt on first 2pt attempt is the whole reason they even had a chance for Andrews to drop the second attempt.

When a guy makes $260 million and is the captain of your team, he has to be flawless for 60 minutes, not just 30 minutes.
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Re: Divisional Round Thread 

Post#636 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:54 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Thank you! People trying to make Lamar blameless in the loss is mind boggling.

He's not totally blameless. But to say that he fell short again & can't do it or isn't clutch is nonsense. When he drove them down the field to tie the game. Especially If Andrews makes that catch & converts the two-point conversion. Who Know's what happens at that point? Maybe they go on to win. He had the two turnovers. But was practically flawless in the second half.
He did fall short, what do you mean?

Bills scored 6 points off his fumble.

The INT completely shifted momentum.

His deflected pass attempt on first 2pt attempt is the whole reason they even had a chance for Andrews to drop the second attempt.

When a guy makes $260 million and is the captain of your team, he has to be flawless for 60 minutes, not just 30 minutes.

His team fell short. But his performance down the stretch was very clutch.

Your hatred for the Ravens is clouding your judgement on this one. :wink:
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Post#637 » by RaoulDuke79 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:57 am

Mr Swagtastic wrote:If Buffalo wins the superbowl it might rival the Raptors championship parade numbers. I was there in Toronto and must have been 3-4 million people like it was Insane


I can't think of another fan base more tortured and starving for a championship than Buffalo(okay...I see you too, Detroit - but you're already out, unfortunately).

I often think about how insane it was and must have felt to get to FOUR consecutive SB's and then lose ALL of them! That is a ridiculous roller-coaster of emotions for multiple years in a row.
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Post#638 » by azcatz11 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:03 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
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JujitsuFlip wrote:Thank you! People trying to make Lamar blameless in the loss is mind boggling.

He's not totally blameless. But to say that he fell short again & can't do it or isn't clutch is nonsense. When he drove them down the field to tie the game. Especially If Andrews makes that catch & converts the two-point conversion. Who Know's what happens at that point? Maybe they go on to win. He had the two turnovers. But was practically flawless in the second half.
He did fall short, what do you mean?

Bills scored 6 points off his fumble.

The INT completely shifted momentum.

His deflected pass attempt on first 2pt attempt is the whole reason they even had a chance for Andrews to drop the second attempt.

When a guy makes $260 million and is the captain of your team, he has to be flawless for 60 minutes, not just 30 minutes.


I think it's really hard to win that game when you don't have even a decent receiving core. And arguably your best weapon makes the 2 critical mistakes to lose the game.

The loss is firmly on Andrews and only on Andrews
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Post#639 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:10 am

azcatz11 wrote:
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Cactus Jack wrote:He's not totally blameless. But to say that he fell short again & can't do it or isn't clutch is nonsense. When he drove them down the field to tie the game. Especially If Andrews makes that catch & converts the two-point conversion. Who Know's what happens at that point? Maybe they go on to win. He had the two turnovers. But was practically flawless in the second half.
He did fall short, what do you mean?

Bills scored 6 points off his fumble.

The INT completely shifted momentum.

His deflected pass attempt on first 2pt attempt is the whole reason they even had a chance for Andrews to drop the second attempt.

When a guy makes $260 million and is the captain of your team, he has to be flawless for 60 minutes, not just 30 minutes.


I think it's really hard to win that game when you don't have even a decent receiving core. And arguably your best weapon makes the 2 critical mistakes to lose the game.

The loss is firmly on Andrews and only on Andrews


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Post#640 » by azcatz11 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:15 am

azcatz11 wrote:
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Cactus Jack wrote:He's not totally blameless. But to say that he fell short again & can't do it or isn't clutch is nonsense. When he drove them down the field to tie the game. Especially If Andrews makes that catch & converts the two-point conversion. Who Know's what happens at that point? Maybe they go on to win. He had the two turnovers. But was practically flawless in the second half.
He did fall short, what do you mean?

Bills scored 6 points off his fumble.

The INT completely shifted momentum.

His deflected pass attempt on first 2pt attempt is the whole reason they even had a chance for Andrews to drop the second attempt.

When a guy makes $260 million and is the captain of your team, he has to be flawless for 60 minutes, not just 30 minutes.


I think it's really hard to win that game when you don't have even a decent receiving core. And arguably your best weapon makes the 2 critical mistakes to lose the game.

The loss is firmly on Andrews and only on Andrews


'Win as a team, lose as a team' but they would have scored on the fumbled drive (No doubt in my mind, they were driving) and I'm of the belief that certain plays are more valuable than others. I understand others differ with that viewpoint but I do give more importance to a drop like that vs. Lamar throwing a meaningless pick in the first quarter on the second drive of the game.

I don't think anyone wishes harm on Andrews but he does deserve to be cut IMO
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