Detroit - Philadelphia - Cleveland

Godaddycurse · Post #1 » by **Godaddycurse** » Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:37 pm

Cleveland trade: Niang, 2-3 future seconds?
Cleveland receive: Drummond

Philadelphia trade: KJ martin, Drummond, 2026 OKC 1st
Philadelphia receive: 2-3 future 2nds from Cleveland

Detroit trade: fake 2nd
Detroit receive: Niang, KJ Martin (into room exception), 2026 OKC 1st

Why for Cleveland: duck tax, add C depth
Why for PHilly: duck tax in a lost season
Why for Detroit: get a future late 1st for its capspace

PHilly should be able to duck tax w/ the 10 man x 2 wks and prorated vet min rest of season stuff i think

Post #2 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:10 pm

I don't think Drummond can come back to Cleveland after how he left. Even if everyone in the front office swallowed their pride, the risk to chemistry isn't worth it.

I really prefer Boucher as a target.

youngcrev · Post #3 » by **youngcrev** » Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:22 pm

Josh Harris better hurry up on that new stadium because the fans would burn down the current one if they gave up a 1st to duck the tax.

chrbal · Post #4 » by **chrbal** » Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:50 pm

As a Pistons fan, yes absolutely. KJs not fully guaranteed next season, so you’re basically getting a first for taking on Niangs contract

Cavs should never do this, I’m pretty sure they can duck the tax by trading a small contract. Plus I can’t see them taking Drummond back.

I feel like the Sixers could duck the tax by making separate deals and it would cost them less

the_process · Post #5 » by **the_process** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:42 am

Godaddycurse wrote:Cleveland trade: Niang, 2-3 future seconds?
Cleveland receive: Drummond

Philadelphia trade: KJ martin, Drummond, 2026 OKC 1st
Philadelphia receive: 2-3 future 2nds from Cleveland

Detroit trade: fake 2nd
Detroit receive: Niang, KJ Martin (into room exception), 2026 OKC 1st

Why for Cleveland: duck tax, add C depth
Why for PHilly: duck tax in a lost season
Why for Detroit: get a future late 1st for its capspace

PHilly should be able to duck tax w/ the 10 man x 2 wks and prorated vet min rest of season stuff i think

If this the route they decide to go, I think the Sixers should be able to duck the tax without giving up a 1st.

Mr Peanut · Post #6 » by **Mr Peanut** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:55 am

chrbal wrote:As a Pistons fan, yes absolutely. KJs not fully guaranteed next season, so you’re basically getting a first for taking on Niangs contract

Cavs should never do this, I’m pretty sure they can duck the tax by trading a small contract. Plus I can’t see them taking Drummond back.

I feel like the Sixers could duck the tax by making separate deals and it would cost them less

OKC's first next year will almost certainly be a very late first rounder (27-30 range). So the deal has to be analyzed with that knowledge.

Kalamazoo317 · Post #7 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:17 pm

Yeah, if we can use that space to get a real player who contributes, I'd prefer that. Also not super eager to add salary that will get in the way of bringing back Beasley.

Post #8 » by **ijspeelman** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:14 pm

jbk1234 wrote:I don't think Drummond can come back to Cleveland after how he left. Even if everyone in the front office swallowed their pride, the risk to chemistry isn't worth it.

I really prefer Boucher as a target.

For a trade centered around Drummond for Cleveland, I surprisingly don't hate it?

We got a completely different version of Drummond when we previously had him and after the Lakers stint he looks to have accepted an actual role on a team. I guess your question of can the FO, the remaining players from that time (DG, Allen, Okoro, and Wade), and Drummond reconcile is fair, but nothing points to Drummond being a locker room cancer after Cleveland.

I'd think about this one lol. Drummond is a solid back-up center

Post #9 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:03 pm

ijspeelman wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:I don't think Drummond can come back to Cleveland after how he left. Even if everyone in the front office swallowed their pride, the risk to chemistry isn't worth it.

I really prefer Boucher as a target.

For a trade centered around Drummond for Cleveland, I surprisingly don't hate it?

We got a completely different version of Drummond when we previously had him and after the Lakers stint he looks to have accepted an actual role on a team. I guess your question of can the FO, the remaining players from that time (DG, Allen, Okoro, and Wade), and Drummond reconcile is fair, but nothing points to Drummond being a locker room cancer after Cleveland.

I'd think about this one lol. Drummond is a solid back-up center

You'd really have to implement a drop-coverage scheme with Drummond. In addition to our zone and man, that would be the third type of defense you'd be asking guys 1-11 on the roster to learn. Also, he can't play with Allen.

Post #10 » by **oldncreaky** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:29 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
ijspeelman wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:I don't think Drummond can come back to Cleveland after how he left. Even if everyone in the front office swallowed their pride, the risk to chemistry isn't worth it.

I really prefer Boucher as a target.

For a trade centered around Drummond for Cleveland, I surprisingly don't hate it?

We got a completely different version of Drummond when we previously had him and after the Lakers stint he looks to have accepted an actual role on a team. I guess your question of can the FO, the remaining players from that time (DG, Allen, Okoro, and Wade), and Drummond reconcile is fair, but nothing points to Drummond being a locker room cancer after Cleveland.

I'd think about this one lol. Drummond is a solid back-up center

You'd really have to implement a drop-coverage scheme with Drummond. In addition to our zone and man, that would be the third type of defense you'd be asking guys 1-11 on the roster to learn. Also, he can't play with Allen.

Great point about the defensive scheme. Drummond is a great fit and backup for drop coverage, but can look bad in a zone and worse in man-to-man with switching. If a team isn't playing drop they should pass on Drummond