Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft

nitetrain8603 · Post #1001 » by **nitetrain8603** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:46 pm

panthermark wrote:
MAQ wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Its not so much being cheap as incompetent.

It was still all for nothing. There was a lot of fodder for sure. The one that was most eye roll worthy to me was the idea that they were interviewing too many coaches. After bashing them for missing out on vikes coach.

I realize the optics of that is definitely apart of the incompetent worry, but man. All the hand ringing was really useless.

I think it is kind of the opposite.
The mass amount of media and fan attention (or "hand wringing") put their continued incompetence out in public and openly questioned.

Poles and Warren deserve props for getting Johnson, but we are literally here right now because of the prior F-ups (see Flus, Getsy and Waldron vs Quinn and KK).

Let's not act like Quinn and KK were can't miss coaches everyone wanted.

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nitetrain8603 · Post #1002 » by **nitetrain8603** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:48 pm

JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
nitetrain8603 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:

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Not a fan of Dennis Allen. With that stated, hope he supports replacing some pieces on defense like Trumaine Edmunds

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Why aren’t you an Allen fan?

Maybe Edmunds plays better under Allen. Different scheme different responsibilities and hopefully a more aggressive approach systematically

He's a guy who didn't meet his potential elsewhere. He's the guy we downgraded to from Roquan. Even with the cost of Roquon, we all would like him now.

Edmunds is a good 3rd linebacker if you got Briggs and Urlacher back there. We don't.

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JohnnyKILLroy · Post #1003 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:49 pm

nitetrain8603 wrote:
JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
nitetrain8603 wrote:Not a fan of Dennis Allen. With that stated, hope he supports replacing some pieces on defense like Trumaine Edmunds

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Why aren’t you an Allen fan?

Maybe Edmunds plays better under Allen. Different scheme different responsibilities and hopefully a more aggressive approach systematically
He's a guy who didn't meet his potential elsewhere. He's the guy we downgraded to from Roquan. Even with the cost of Roquon, we all would like him now.

Edmunds is a good 3rd linebacker if you got Briggs and Urlacher back there. We don't.

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And Allen?

Betta Bulleavit · Post #1004 » by **Betta Bulleavit** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:49 pm

panthermark wrote:
MAQ wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Its not so much being cheap as incompetent.

It was still all for nothing. There was a lot of fodder for sure. The one that was most eye roll worthy to me was the idea that they were interviewing too many coaches. After bashing them for missing out on vikes coach.

I realize the optics of that is definitely apart of the incompetent worry, but man. All the hand ringing was really useless.

I think it is kind of the opposite.
The mass amount of media and fan attention (or "hand wringing") put their continued incompetence out in public and openly questioned.

Poles and Warren deserve props for getting Johnson, but we are literally here right now because of the prior F-ups (see Flus, Getsy and Waldron vs Quinn and KK).

Warren didn’t have anything to do with Eberflus getting hired and Poles is only semi- accountable for it given the short list that he was given…with a particular guy (Flus) being pushed.

Jcool0 · Post #1005 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:50 pm

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panthermark · Post #1006 » by **panthermark** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:51 pm

nitetrain8603 wrote:
panthermark wrote:
MAQ wrote:It was still all for nothing. There was a lot of fodder for sure. The one that was most eye roll worthy to me was the idea that they were interviewing too many coaches. After bashing them for missing out on vikes coach.

I realize the optics of that is definitely apart of the incompetent worry, but man. All the hand ringing was really useless.

I think it is kind of the opposite.
The mass amount of media and fan attention (or "hand wringing") put their continued incompetence out in public and openly questioned.

Poles and Warren deserve props for getting Johnson, but we are literally here right now because of the prior F-ups (see Flus, Getsy and Waldron vs Quinn and KK).
Let's not act like Quinn and KK were can't miss coaches everyone wanted.
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Can't miss? No, no one is can't miss.
Better prospects than who was selected? Yes.

If I remember correctly it was Phillips or the committee that recommended Quinn, but Armstrong convinced George to go with Flus.

KK was far higher on my list for OC than Shane.

I don't remember anyone having Flus as their top guy.

panthermark · Post #1007 » by **panthermark** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:53 pm

Is there a good Lions board to lurk?
Curious to read their thoughts about Johnson, and how losing both Johnson and Glenn will impact them next year.

Dresden · Post #1008 » by **Dresden** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:54 pm

Speaking of Edmunds, the last thing I hope the Bears do is go out AGAIN and prioritize getting another LB. We have so many needs on the lines, and in the secondary, finding a replacement for Edmunds would be way down on my to do list.

Dresden · Post #1009 » by **Dresden** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:55 pm

Johnson must have been contemplating this move for awhile now, to make his decision this fast. And apparently Ryan Poles being a lame duck, or "not aligned", wasn't an issue for him.

JohnnyKILLroy · Post #1010 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:56 pm

Dresden wrote:Speaking of Edmunds, the last thing I hope the Bears do is go out AGAIN and prioritize getting another LB. We have so many needs on the lines, and in the secondary, finding a replacement for Edmunds would be way down on my to do list.

Yeah we have more pressing needs than Edmunds and who knows how Allen would use him

Dominator83 · Post #1011 » by **Dominator83** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:57 pm

JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
nitetrain8603 wrote:
JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
Why aren’t you an Allen fan?

Maybe Edmunds plays better under Allen. Different scheme different responsibilities and hopefully a more aggressive approach systematically
He's a guy who didn't meet his potential elsewhere. He's the guy we downgraded to from Roquan. Even with the cost of Roquon, we all would like him now.

Edmunds is a good 3rd linebacker if you got Briggs and Urlacher back there. We don't.

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And Allen?

Yea i don't get it. Allen is pretty damn good as a DC. Sure you don't want him as your head coach, but we're not looking to hire him for that lol. Hell, I think Eberflus will be a great get for a team seeking a DC. Flus was really good here as a defensive play caller. He just isn't a guy you want steering the whole ship. Allen is Flus and a Flus at DC is perfect

JohnnyKILLroy · Post #1012 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:00 pm

Dominator83 wrote:
JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
nitetrain8603 wrote:He's a guy who didn't meet his potential elsewhere. He's the guy we downgraded to from Roquan. Even with the cost of Roquon, we all would like him now.

Edmunds is a good 3rd linebacker if you got Briggs and Urlacher back there. We don't.

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And Allen?

Yea i don't get it. Allen is pretty damn good as a DC. Sure you don't want him as your head coach, but we're not looking to hire him for that lol. Hell, I think Eberflus will be a great get for a team seeking a DC. Flus was really good here as a defensive play caller. He just isn't a guy you want steering the whole ship. Allen is Flus and a Flus at DC is perfect

He was really good in NO for a long time and hopefully he’s more aggressive than Fluss

Jcool0 · Post #1013 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:03 pm

panthermark wrote:Is there a good Lions board to lurk?
Curious to read their thoughts about Johnson, and how losing both Johnson and Glenn will impact them next year.

CEO coach losing both his OC and DC in one off season... That could end this current team.

panthermark · Post #1014 » by **panthermark** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:06 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
panthermark wrote:Is there a good Lions board to lurk?
Curious to read their thoughts about Johnson, and how losing both Johnson and Glenn will impact them next year.

CEO coach losing both his OC and DC in one off season... That could end this current team.

Yeah, they still have talent, and a good GM that drafts for that specific team....but that is a LOT to lose.

I wonder if they do internal hires to not change schemes? Maybe the GM was anticipating this?

Jcool0 · Post #1015 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:08 pm

panthermark wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
panthermark wrote:Is there a good Lions board to lurk?
Curious to read their thoughts about Johnson, and how losing both Johnson and Glenn will impact them next year.

CEO coach losing both his OC and DC in one off season... That could end this current team.

Yeah, they still have talent, and a good GM that drafts for that specific team....but that is a LOT to lose.

I wonder if they do internal hires to not change schemes? Maybe the GM was anticipating this?

Based on what Schefty tweeted earlier looks like they are going internal for replacements.

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TheGOATRises007 · Post #1016 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:21 pm

Massive coup!

Got the guy I wanted the most. Hopefully he turns us into a contender for a decade +

Howling Mad · Post #1017 » by **Howling Mad** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:35 pm

I was expecting an unheard-of coordinator from left field. My belief is at about 90% atm, it'll eventually kick in that we actually got THE guy. The thread title needs to change, or it didn't happen.

NZB2323 · Post #1018 » by **NZB2323** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:39 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
Dresden wrote:Another plus to Dennis Allen- he runs a 4-3.

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Does identified mean the Bears want him or the Bears have already hired him?

Jcool0 · Post #1019 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:51 pm

NZB2323 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Dresden wrote:Another plus to Dennis Allen- he runs a 4-3.

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Does identified mean the Bears want him or the Bears have already hired him?

He isn't signed or anything yet. 90% he is the Bears DC.

cocktailswith_2short · Post #1020 » by **cocktailswith_2short** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:54 pm

Getting Allen too ! He was my number one choice for niners dc fawk.