P. Williams for Tucker/Coffey

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Re: P. Williams for Tucker/Coffey 

Post#21 » by TheNewEra » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:55 am

LightTheBeam wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:only way the clips do this is if they can swap out Coffey for Mann


Has Mann fallen that far from good graces? What's going on there. Went from untouchable to wanting him gone?

Just a bad fit with Harden or did he just regress?

He was always a guy i wanted Sac to go after, but I feel we got our Mann with Keon.


Regression and lack of progression as a player and simply they signed better players to do what he gives a team. His extension was a big mistake and moving off of it before his value continues to drop outside of garbage time.


Dunn/Porter Jr/Coffey/Batum is the current set core but the bench could use more scoring output even with staggering starters. Batum is old and Mo hasn’t earned the trust of Ty Lue.
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Re: P. Williams for Tucker/Coffey 

Post#22 » by Ell Curry » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:34 am

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scottyg wrote:So a career 40% 3 pt shooter with solid defense and only 23 years old has someone turned into a negative contract and bad player?

congrats, you have just described Josh Green, who nobody wants at 3 years $40M, let alone 5/$90M

(Green turned 24 in November, but you get my drift)


I guess the tax/apron/stepien combo of rules are killing these guys value-wise?

Because in theory they'd help teams like the Lakers, Denver, Knicks, Bucks, Spurs, Magic, Hawks, just looking at playoff teams/teams that might sneak in. But apart from the Spurs and Lakers, there isn't a ton of obvious trades (even the Hawks would struggle next year with the Green contract and retaining Capela and staying under the tax), even though Josh Green as 8th or 9th man helps all those teams and gets 20-25 minutes a night.
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Re: P. Williams for Tucker/Coffey 

Post#23 » by gambitx777 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:26 am

To much to give up coffey is pretty important for them. But I would do Tucker, battunn, the rights to Ismael Kamagate and maybe a second and cash for Williams

But I don't see them taking that salary.

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Re: P. Williams for Tucker/Coffey 

Post#24 » by Sofia » Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:57 am

TheNewEra wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:only way the clips do this is if they can swap out Coffey for Mann


Has Mann fallen that far from good graces? What's going on there. Went from untouchable to wanting him gone?

Just a bad fit with Harden or did he just regress?

He was always a guy i wanted Sac to go after, but I feel we got our Mann with Keon.


Regression and lack of progression as a player and simply they signed better players to do what he gives a team. His extension was a big mistake and moving off of it before his value continues to drop outside of garbage time.


Dunn/Porter Jr/Coffey/Batum is the current set core but the bench could use more scoring output even with staggering starters. Batum is old and Mo hasn’t earned the trust of Ty Lue.


Mann and Tucker for Williams saves the Bulls $14m over the life of the contracts and Mann gets off contract a year earlier than Williams.

That trade would also get the Clippers beneath the tax line (currently $2.5m over) if they made no other trades.
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