The 905, 'sauga world

[C_Money]

Walter: 23 points. Really good game from him

Chomche: looked better than I expected

Mogbo: good defender but has no offensive game whatsoever.

[Thaddy]

Walter, Chomche, and Mogbo looked good. Mogbo didn't shoot as much as we would want him to but he did hit a 3pt shot today. It's good to see him get reps there. Finishing and shooting are the priority for him, once he has those down he'll be an elite 3+D player.

[HangTime]

Did Ja'kobe play this game, in the same manner that Scottie played vs the Celtics? Connective player, that takes a few shots in rhythm, early on, then later he dips in to his bag of tricks

I said that Scotties first half vs the Celtics was a tutorial for Mogbo, (which it still was), but the entire games pacing was for Walter.

Everyone else is playing the exact same role and pace, just scaled up, to develop that consistency, so when they're re-called, they can step right in.

[Duffman100]

Walter, Chomche, and Mogbo looked good. Mogbo didn't shoot as much as we would want him to but he did hit a 3pt shot today. It's good to see him get reps there. Finishing and shooting are the priority for him, once he has those down he'll be an elite 3+D player.

Mogbo had a weird stretch to start the 2nd half where his body language was weird. He wasn't hustling something seemed off

[SnotoriousBIG]

Watch on YouTube

[douggood]

whats the word on the 3rd 2way player we have <insert name here>

[WaltFrazier]

Watch on YouTube

Paul Watson still hanging in there

[DreamTeam09]

Walter, Chomche, and Mogbo looked good. Mogbo didn't shoot as much as we would want him to but he did hit a 3pt shot today. It's good to see him get reps there. Finishing and shooting are the priority for him, once he has those down he'll be an elite 3+D player.

Mogbo had a weird stretch to start the 2nd half where his body language was weird. He wasn't hustling something seemed off

He's been like that his whole year, like he's afraid to fall. You signed for 4yrs my guy, relax and get it together. Being hard on yourself doesn't make anything better.

[aminiaturebuddha]

I watched the 905 game late last night before heading to bed after recording it earlier. A few thoughts on the Raptors players:

Walter was very good. And he had a couple of layups just roll off the rim too, so his numbers could have been more impressive. He also seems to learn within the course of the game. In the first half there was a play where the defence played off him a bit to collapse in the paint and he passed up a mid-range jumper. In the second half, same situation, he shot the jumper and calmly nailed it.

His defence has the potential to be quite good, and he tries hard at that end, but he's young and sometimes makes mistakes. Most of those seem to be in the form of "take the wrong angle on a close out"-type mistakes, so it's stuff that's easily fixable as he learns the pro game.

Chomche continues to look more and more comfortable every game. Still a lot of stuff to work on, but his team defensive awareness beyond his one-on-one defence has improved a lot since the beginning of the season. He's also become a very good screener, something that every NBA big needs to learn. He'll still get out of position from time to time on defence, and force an off-balance shot on offence or a bad pass (but I like his willingness to try to make the right reads), but overall his growth is impressive. And he's definitely a presence on defence. He's maybe even ahead of where I thought he'd be at the beginning of the year.

Mogbo is a great defender, but there are some glaring issues. As it sits right now, I still have high hopes because he's got such a unique collection of talent and abilities, but he's probably the one of the young guys that I'm least confident will be a useful NBA player in 5 years. He seems to get really affected by bad calls against him and it can affect his mindset for a play or two. He's gotta be tougher than that.

But most importantly, he's just terrible at trying to score around the rim if he's not dunking. This upcoming off-season he needs to put up about 1000 shots a day, starting with Mikan drills, and then slowly moving out from the rim into little hook shots, etc. until he's making 90% of those in practice.

Battle is just solid. I'm not sure there's a lot of potential growth in his game - he's already an older rookie - but if he just solidifies the things he's good at, and continues to slowly improve his defence, rebounding, and passing reads, there should be a spot for him as a deep bench guy in the league for a while. I loved his clutch 3 to ice the game in the last minute yesterday.

[MEDIC]

Walter, Chomche, and Mogbo looked good. Mogbo didn't shoot as much as we would want him to but he did hit a 3pt shot today. It's good to see him get reps there. Finishing and shooting are the priority for him, once he has those down he'll be an elite 3+D player.

Mogbo had a weird stretch to start the 2nd half where his body language was weird. He wasn't hustling something seemed off

He's been like that his whole year, like he's afraid to fall. You signed for 4yrs my guy, relax and get it together. Being hard on yourself doesn't make anything better.

I saw the same thing when I was at one of the games. He sat on the bench, not watching the game at all while everyone else was cheering & totally into it. He was just staring off into space. When he came into the game, he didn't look ready to play at all.

Not sure what is up with that.

[MEDIC]

.Mogbo is a great defender, but there are some glaring issues. As it sits right now, I still have high hopes because he's got such a unique collection of talent and abilities, but he's probably the one of the young guys that I'm least confident will be a useful NBA player in 5 years. He seems to get really affected by bad calls against him and it can affect his mindset for a play or two. He's gotta be tougher than that.

But most importantly, he's just terrible at trying to score around the rim if he's not dunking. This upcoming off-season he needs to put up about 1000 shots a day, starting with Mikan drills, and then slowly moving out from the rim into little hook shots, etc. until he's making 90% of those in practice.

Battle is just solid. I'm not sure there's a lot of potential growth in his game - he's already an older rookie - but if he just solidifies the things he's good at, and continues to slowly improve his defence, rebounding, and passing reads, there should be a spot for him as a deep bench guy in the league for a while. I loved his clutch 3 to ice the game in the last minute yesterday.

Mogbo strikes me as one of those guys that gets stuck in his own head. Creates mental barriers for himself rather than having a growth mindset. I agree with you about the long term forecast. Unless the right person can get through to him & help change his habits (thinking & performance), he will bounce around until teams just kinda give up.

I think Battle's offensive skillset is fine. Most of his growth will come on the defensive end hopefully. I actually think he has decent enough arhleticism, fast enough feet & good enough length to be a decent defender. We will see.......the good news is that he seems like a worker & seems like a pretty smart guy. He kinda gives me Matt Bonner vibes.

[Duffman100]

Mogbo had a weird stretch to start the 2nd half where his body language was weird. He wasn't hustling something seemed off

He's been like that his whole year, like he's afraid to fall. You signed for 4yrs my guy, relax and get it together. Being hard on yourself doesn't make anything better.

I saw the same thing when I was at one of the games. He sat on the bench, not watching the game at all while everyone else was cheering & totally into it. He was just staring off into space. When he came into the game, he didn't look ready to play at all.

Not sure what is up with that.

In this game, it was weird. He was battling his pony tail and then just sort of 'gave up'.

I know he has a quiet energy like OG, but this was something totally different. A few people in the crowd were actually starting to yell at him to get his head in the game.

[mtcan]

Mogbo needs to spend more time in the G-League but they really need to draw up plays and force him to be more assertive on the offensive end. I want to see him with the ball in his hands and creating. He needs to be featured. Otherwise he has no problem blending in to the background. He possesses great physical tools but he lacks the mean streak to really utilize it all.

[HangTime]

Mogbo needs to spend more time in the G-League but they really need to draw up plays and force him to be more assertive on the offensive end. I want to see him with the ball in his hands and creating. He needs to be featured. Otherwise he has no problem blending in to the background. He possesses great physical tools but he lacks the mean streak to really utilize it all.

I think this stint in the 905 is to play like Scottie did in the first half vs Boston. Just be the connective piece, but take the shots/make the drive, if it feels in the flow.

The post trade deadline, and summer league is for more on ball creating.

[God Squad]

Is Chomche good enough with the 905 yet where we can project a spot for him in the coming years? Or is he still in "limbo" where we don't know yet? From the highlights posted the kid's speed, athleticism, and second jump looks elite. But I question his offense and more importantly "feel" for the game.

[dagger]

Masai loves his athletes and thinks the team can coach guys into developing skills, but Mogbo isn't a 19 year old. We need shooting, and Jaylen Well was there for the taking, but athleticism prevailed over skills.

[aminiaturebuddha]

Is Chomche good enough with the 905 yet where we can project a spot for him in the coming years? Or is he still in "limbo" where we don't know yet? From the highlights posted the kid's speed, athleticism, and second jump looks elite. But I question his offense and more importantly "feel" for the game.

His feel for the game is actually coming along, and is probably as good or better than one could reasonably expect given his limited time playing organized basketball at this point in his career.

His offence is still quite limited, and looks like it'll be the last thing to come along. Right now it's basically just setting screens and rim running, and getting offensive rebound putbacks. He's shown glimpses of a little hook shot and a three pointer, but not enough to really consider them part of his repertoire just yet.

But overall I've been getting more and more comfortable with the idea that he might be able to work himself into a rotation role in a couple of years. He's definitely not NBA ready yet, but the timeline I'm eyeing right now (with the understanding that development happens at different paces) is for him to spend most of next year in the G-League as well, but that he might be ready to be a bench big with the Raptors by 2026-27.

[youngRAPZ]

Masai loves his athletes and thinks the team can coach guys into developing skills, but Mogbo isn't a 19 year old. We need shooting, and Jaylen Well was there for the taking, but athleticism prevailed over skills.

Here we go lol let me guess you were screaming for them to draft wells over mogbo right?

[KillaSham23]

Flip was the correct pick but we went for Scotties best friend. I guess time will tell but Flip would've replaced Kelly and or Boucher.

[youngRAPZ]

Flip was the correct pick but we went for Scotties best friend. I guess time will tell but Flip would've replaced Kelly and or Boucher.

How about we let these players develop for even 1 full year and get an offseason to improve before we start declaring who should be drafted where.

I remember couple drafts ago Chris Duarte was Roy leader for the first half of the season. Where is he now?