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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#141 » by Jikkle » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:58 am

Pattersonca65 wrote:Looks like the 49ers are going to interview Allen


Haven't seen anything that suggests they are interested or planning to interview him.

A guy on ESPN floated Allen's name in an article and journalists are playing their game of telephone running with it and twisting it into making it sound like we're actually interested.

9ers may very well in fact be interested but I haven't heard anything of substance that they are.

In fact it feels like they are putting their eggs in the Saleh basket waiting to see if he gets a head coaching job because I haven't heard of them interviewing or planning to interview anyone else.

Like we're hearing about them interviewing an ST coordinator every day but since that initial Saleh and Lions defensive back guy interview it's been pretty quiet.

Maybe we'll get news of DC candidate interviews in the coming days but it sure feels like Saleh is a done deal if he doesn't get a head coaching job.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#142 » by 49er4life1979 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:04 pm

I havent seen anything on Allen either but they should interview him....I dont like how they're just sitting and waiting to see what happens with Saleh. The Cowboys have now jumped in and want to interview Saleh as well. The 49ers have not interviewed anyone for DC since they interviewed Saleh and Townsend in the beginning - which also satisfies the Rooney rule.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#143 » by Jikkle » Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:49 am

Reports are that the 9ers are willing to make Saleh the highest-paid DC in the league, and they have basically all their eggs in that basket.

The bad news is Saleh is currently considered one of the front runners for the Jags job but if he doesn't get a head coaching gig I'd be shocked if he isn't the 9ers DC next season.

I'm even more convinced we should go with Allen or someone else because even if we do get Saleh either he has the defense as a top unit again and gets another head coaching job in a year or two or he doesn't get a head coaching job because his defenses are mediocre so we kinda lose either way.

Allen has failed as a head coach twice which usually means you either won't be a HC ever again or it will be a long while before you can build that stock back up so at least if we went into the Allen direction he'd likely be a DC for a while.

I just hope the process ends soon because last thing we need is to wait on Saleh and to miss out on other candidates. I get why they aren't interviewing other people because it's hard to get interviews with quality candidates if you're basically telling them Saleh is your guy but you might double back to them so it's kinda better to be in a position to have that interview and be able to hire them on the spot or shortly afterward.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#144 » by Jikkle » Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:59 am

And for bad news on the Special Teams Coordinator spot it seems Sorensen is a front-runner for the job.

I get they want to keep the guy on staff because maybe he's just a bad coordinator but still a good coach. Plenty of coaches in the league are great coaches but bad coordinators but why as an ST coordinator?

What part of his resume gives you any sort of confidence that he would be a quality ST coordinator? Sorensen has one year of being an ST coordinator and the Jags were dead last in STs when it came to ETA.

Kinda where I wish there was more of a power player in the organization that could push back on Kyle. I mean Kyle you thought Sorensen was going to be a capable DC and he wasn't so why double down on your judgement and make him and ST coordinator.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#145 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:59 pm

Really not thrilled with how these coaching searches are happening. We have a chance to truly improve. To bring in a STs coordinator who is talented and creative, and instead we may just go with Sorenson to kind of muddle through. I don't see how you can take a guy who was such an abject failure at DC and just hand him another coordinator position without even really trying to find an upgrade.

At DC, I'd be fine with Saleh, but there's a very real chance we don't get Saleh. And if not, who do we have on the back burner? And even if we add Saleh this year, if we make a legit playoff run, there's a good chance we lose him next year and we're back in the same position that resulted in Sorenson getting the gig. Why not use the time now to interview some guys who could be options in the future?

It just makes me crazy. Maybe the biggest thing I dislike about Shanahan is that he's way too conservative, wants to stick with what he knows, and basically won't go outside of guys that he or his dad worked with. I don't think it's a long-term recipe for success, no matter how good he is on offense. There are three phases of the game. When two of them are broken, as they were this year, it just doesn't work.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#146 » by CrimsonCrew » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:44 am

Ulbrich to the falcons, and it doesn't appear we even made a call. If we miss out on Saleh, we could be screwed.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#147 » by Jikkle » Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:29 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Ulbrich to the falcons, and it doesn't appear we even made a call. If we miss out on Saleh, we could be screwed.


Get ready for Staley and Sorensen to be our new coordinators.

Honestly if that happened I'd say Shanahan better have a good playoff run next year or he should be gone.

While there are a lot of other people I'd take over Staley I'll at least keep an open mind with him. I mean at least when he last coordinated the Rams were a top defense so he at least has something on his resume you can point to. The league is full of good coordinators that bombed as head coaches so he might be one of those guys.

Sorensen would be a bad joke and might be the first time in league history that a coach has hired the same guy to fail in two different coordinator roles in back-to-back years. Like I said in my previous post there is simply nothing in Sorensen's resume that suggests he would be a quality Special Teams coordinator. That move would just confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt that Kyle doesn't care at all about Special Teams and Sorensen got the job because Kyle likes him and it's the only other job he's done before.

Like CC said I'm having serious doubts in Kyle if he's so unwilling to change or work with anyone outside his tight little circle. Hiring Wilks was a step outside his bubble and what happened is Kyle freaked out that Wilks didn't do everything exactly like Saleh and Ryans including making him move from the booth to the sidelines so he fired Wilks and went with Sorensen who ran the defense exactly like Saleh and Ryans to a fault. Sorensen had other problems but ultimately his biggest problem is he ran the same exact defense like it was 2019 but didn't adjust at all for the fact that we didn't have the same personnel to run the defense like it was 2019.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#148 » by Jikkle » Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:56 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Ulbrich to the falcons, and it doesn't appear we even made a call. If we miss out on Saleh, we could be screwed.


Putting on a tin foil hat that move and the lack of action on the 9ers part might indicate that odds are pretty high on Saleh

Word I've seen is Ben Johnson and Liam Coen are top two candidates for the Jags so Saleh might be not get that gig and with the Lions out I'm sure the Jags head coaching search gets wrapped up quickly.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#149 » by 49er4life1979 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:01 pm

I am sure the Niners have at least touched base or kept in touch with backup plans. Ulbrich to Falcons could mean Saleh is likely not getting a HC job so he wasn't going to be on his staff. But my choice all along has been Allen. A failed HC but very good DC.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#151 » by 49er4life1979 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:36 pm

Lions to lose OC Ben Johnson to the Bears.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#152 » by clyde21 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:41 pm

49er4life1979 wrote:Lions to lose OC Ben Johnson to the Bears.


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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#153 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:18 pm

"Bones" Fassel, one of the better STs coaches out there, is going to the Titans. No indication we even reached out to him, and seeming more and more likely we're just going to hand over the STs reins to failed DC Sorenson. Brutal.

At DC, Ulbrich gone. Anarumo gone. Allen probably gone. Looks like we're going with Saleh or, if he gets another gig, Staley.

I don't get it. Saleh was a good coordinator while he was here, but it's not like he was amazing. His Jets teams had some good years, but also underperformed at times on D. Why would we put all our eggs in that basket? If this DC search doesn't pan out and the D struggles again, Shanahan has got to be on the hot seat. There's too much talent on this roster to blow it with bad coordinators.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#154 » by Jikkle » Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:56 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:"Bones" Fassel, one of the better STs coaches out there, is going to the Titans. No indication we even reached out to him, and seeming more and more likely we're just going to hand over the STs reins to failed DC Sorenson. Brutal.

At DC, Ulbrich gone. Anarumo gone. Allen probably gone. Looks like we're going with Saleh or, if he gets another gig, Staley.

I don't get it. Saleh was a good coordinator while he was here, but it's not like he was amazing. His Jets teams had some good years, but also underperformed at times on D. Why would we put all our eggs in that basket? If this DC search doesn't pan out and the D struggles again, Shanahan has got to be on the hot seat. There's too much talent on this roster to blow it with bad coordinators.


Latest reports are 9ers aren't likely to hire Sorensen to be ST coordinator so might dodge that bullet.

Saleh is scheduled for a 2nd interview for the Jags on Friday but it seems like with Johnson gone their number one guy is Cohen and they interview him on Wednesday.

I'm pretty meh on a Saleh hire because I want to move on from this scheme but if Shanahan is bent on keeping this scheme Saleh is still one of the top guys to run it and he would be better than Ulbrich and leagues better then Sorensen and Wilks.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#155 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:25 pm

Jikkle wrote:And for bad news on the Special Teams Coordinator spot it seems Sorensen is a front-runner for the job.

I get they want to keep the guy on staff because maybe he's just a bad coordinator but still a good coach. Plenty of coaches in the league are great coaches but bad coordinators but why as an ST coordinator?

What part of his resume gives you any sort of confidence that he would be a quality ST coordinator? Sorensen has one year of being an ST coordinator and the Jags were dead last in STs when it came to ETA.

Kinda where I wish there was more of a power player in the organization that could push back on Kyle. I mean Kyle you thought Sorensen was going to be a capable DC and he wasn't so why double down on your judgement and make him and ST coordinator.

According to sources anyway, 49ers not likely hire Sorenson as ST coach
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#156 » by Jikkle » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:49 pm

The feeling is Cohen is going to end up with the Jags job. He's supposed to interview for them again tomorrow so I imagine we'll know something around then.

Mike Silver thinks it will be Staley if it's not Saleh.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#157 » by clyde21 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:54 am

Aaron Glenn to Jets

not really sure the point of going from Saleh to Glenn, but ok
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#158 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:24 pm

Coen pulled out of the Jags search. Not good....
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#159 » by 49er4life1979 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:33 pm

clyde21 wrote:Aaron Glenn to Jets

not really sure the point of going from Saleh to Glenn, but ok


Lol it's the Jets
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#160 » by 49er4life1979 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:41 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Coen pulled out of the Jags search. Not good....


Does Saleh really want to risk ruining his chances of ever being head coach again? Is he that desperate to jump right back into head coaching so quickly? He's only 45. If he gets the Jags job and they have another bad season everyone there could be one and done. But Niners will still have options and time to conduct other interviews. Maiocco says they've definitely had talks with other candidates behind the scenes.

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