Ayton, Grant, and Simons for anything?

[Braggins]

Anfernee Simons + Dalano Banton + 2027 NYK 2nd == Cole Anthony + Gary Harris + Jett Howard + 2025 DEN 1st

starters: Scoot ~ Sharpe ~ Deni ~ Grant ~ Ayton
bench5: Anthony ~ Thybulle ~ Howard ~ Camara ~ RWIII/Clingan

starters: Simons ~ Suggs ~ Franz ~ Paolo ~ Goga
bench5: Black ~ KCP ~ DaSilva ~ Isaac ~ WCJr

I watch most Portland/Orlando games and think this trade works for both teams.

[PDXKnight]

Anfernee Simons + Dalano Banton + 2027 NYK 2nd == Cole Anthony + Gary Harris + Jett Howard + 2025 DEN 1st

starters: Scoot ~ Sharpe ~ Deni ~ Grant ~ Ayton
bench5: Anthony ~ Thybulle ~ Howard ~ Camara ~ RWIII/Clingan

starters: Simons ~ Suggs ~ Franz ~ Paolo ~ Goga
bench5: Black ~ KCP ~ DaSilva ~ Isaac ~ WCJr

I watch most Portland/Orlando games and think this trade works for both teams.

A first and some cap relief for Ant? Yeah I'd be down

[Braggins]

Orlando might see it as overpay to give up a 1st and Jett for a player who is underperforming, but the Denver pick will be in the mid 20s and Jett hasn't done anything. They are probably the best roster in the league to maximize Simons and I think they can make it to the finals this year if they get healthy. I think they should be willing to push some chips in. They own all their 1st round picks and have two extras, so its not like they are really giving up much here. Monk would be my first choice for them but he isn't really going to be available.

[DusterBuster]

Anfernee Simons + Dalano Banton + 2027 NYK 2nd == Cole Anthony + Gary Harris + Jett Howard + 2025 DEN 1st

starters: Scoot ~ Sharpe ~ Deni ~ Grant ~ Ayton
bench5: Anthony ~ Thybulle ~ Howard ~ Camara ~ RWIII/Clingan

starters: Simons ~ Suggs ~ Franz ~ Paolo ~ Goga
bench5: Black ~ KCP ~ DaSilva ~ Isaac ~ WCJr

I watch most Portland/Orlando games and think this trade works for both teams.

Signed and sealed.

[Wizenheimer]

Anfernee Simons + Dalano Banton + 2027 NYK 2nd == Cole Anthony + Gary Harris + Jett Howard + 2025 DEN 1st

starters: Scoot ~ Sharpe ~ Deni ~ Grant ~ Ayton
bench5: Anthony ~ Thybulle ~ Howard ~ Camara ~ RWIII/Clingan

starters: Simons ~ Suggs ~ Franz ~ Paolo ~ Goga
bench5: Black ~ KCP ~ DaSilva ~ Isaac ~ WCJr

I watch most Portland/Orlando games and think this trade works for both teams.

I have no idea what the attraction of Jett Howard is. He's a crappy shooter, never gets to the FT line, a weak rebounder. He really does nothing at an average level; it's all mediocre or worse

simplify the trade:

Simons for Anthony + Harris + the more favorable of the 2025 Orlando/Denver first round picks

and waive Reath although Simons + Rupert just barely meets the trade differential rule

then, trade Timelord to Houston for Jock Londale's non-guaranteed contract. Then Waive Londale. That would put the Blazers over 20M below the tax line. Meaning they have the full MLE (13M) and Dame's 6.5M TPE as levers to absorb salary in exchange for a first round pick(s) and/or a couple of 2nd's

[BlazersBroncos]

Anfernee Simons + Dalano Banton + 2027 NYK 2nd == Cole Anthony + Gary Harris + Jett Howard + 2025 DEN 1st

starters: Scoot ~ Sharpe ~ Deni ~ Grant ~ Ayton
bench5: Anthony ~ Thybulle ~ Howard ~ Camara ~ RWIII/Clingan

starters: Simons ~ Suggs ~ Franz ~ Paolo ~ Goga
bench5: Black ~ KCP ~ DaSilva ~ Isaac ~ WCJr

I watch most Portland/Orlando games and think this trade works for both teams.

I have no idea what the attraction of Jett Howard is. He's a crappy shooter, never gets to the FT line, a weak rebounder. He really does nothing at an average level; it's all mediocre or worse

simplify the trade:

Simons for Anthony + Harris + the more favorable of the 2025 Orlando/Denver first round picks

and waive Reath although Simons + Rupert just barely meets the trade differential rule

then, trade Timelord to Houston for Jock Londale's non-guaranteed contract. Then Waive Londale. That would put the Blazers over 20M below the tax line. Meaning they have the full MLE (13M) and Dame's 6.5M TPE as levers to absorb salary in exchange for a first round pick(s) and/or a couple of 2nd's

Ya I like the more simple version of Simons to ORL - albeit I think its the lower of 25 FRP not higher.

As for RWIII for Landale - I could get behind that if we got 3+ SRP.

I also think we could get a SRP for Reath in a pinch - dont see us needing to cut him outright.

[DusterBuster]

Anfernee Simons + Dalano Banton + 2027 NYK 2nd == Cole Anthony + Gary Harris + Jett Howard + 2025 DEN 1st

starters: Scoot ~ Sharpe ~ Deni ~ Grant ~ Ayton
bench5: Anthony ~ Thybulle ~ Howard ~ Camara ~ RWIII/Clingan

starters: Simons ~ Suggs ~ Franz ~ Paolo ~ Goga
bench5: Black ~ KCP ~ DaSilva ~ Isaac ~ WCJr

I watch most Portland/Orlando games and think this trade works for both teams.

I have no idea what the attraction of Jett Howard is. He's a crappy shooter, never gets to the FT line, a weak rebounder. He really does nothing at an average level; it's all mediocre or worse

simplify the trade:

Simons for Anthony + Harris + the more favorable of the 2025 Orlando/Denver first round picks

and waive Reath although Simons + Rupert just barely meets the trade differential rule

then, trade Timelord to Houston for Jock Londale's non-guaranteed contract. Then Waive Londale. That would put the Blazers over 20M below the tax line. Meaning they have the full MLE (13M) and Dame's 6.5M TPE as levers to absorb salary in exchange for a first round pick(s) and/or a couple of 2nd's

Another big fat stamp of approval here.

[PDXKnight]

Anfernee Simons + Dalano Banton + 2027 NYK 2nd == Cole Anthony + Gary Harris + Jett Howard + 2025 DEN 1st

starters: Scoot ~ Sharpe ~ Deni ~ Grant ~ Ayton
bench5: Anthony ~ Thybulle ~ Howard ~ Camara ~ RWIII/Clingan

starters: Simons ~ Suggs ~ Franz ~ Paolo ~ Goga
bench5: Black ~ KCP ~ DaSilva ~ Isaac ~ WCJr

I watch most Portland/Orlando games and think this trade works for both teams.

I have no idea what the attraction of Jett Howard is. He's a crappy shooter, never gets to the FT line, a weak rebounder. He really does nothing at an average level; it's all mediocre or worse

simplify the trade:

Simons for Anthony + Harris + the more favorable of the 2025 Orlando/Denver first round picks

and waive Reath although Simons + Rupert just barely meets the trade differential rule

then, trade Timelord to Houston for Jock Londale's non-guaranteed contract. Then Waive Londale. That would put the Blazers over 20M below the tax line. Meaning they have the full MLE (13M) and Dame's 6.5M TPE as levers to absorb salary in exchange for a first round pick(s) and/or a couple of 2nd's

Another big fat stamp of approval here.

Agreed

[zzaj]

I have no idea what the attraction of Jett Howard is. He's a crappy shooter, never gets to the FT line, a weak rebounder. He really does nothing at an average level; it's all mediocre or worse

simplify the trade:

Simons for Anthony + Harris + the more favorable of the 2025 Orlando/Denver first round picks

and waive Reath although Simons + Rupert just barely meets the trade differential rule

then, trade Timelord to Houston for Jock Londale's non-guaranteed contract. Then Waive Londale. That would put the Blazers over 20M below the tax line. Meaning they have the full MLE (13M) and Dame's 6.5M TPE as levers to absorb salary in exchange for a first round pick(s) and/or a couple of 2nd's

Another big fat stamp of approval here.

Agreed

Would do this in a heartbeat.

[Walton1one]

Yes, this trade in some form has been bandied about for quite a while now. It all depends on whether ORL has the appetite for this deal or not.

Salary, 25' 1st + (maybe) a young player who is not In ORL rotation like Howard\Houston would sem to make the most sense. Personally, I would do that deal w\o Howard\Houston included, whteher Cronin would or not is an entirely different matter.

[Walton1one]

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Interesting possibility and there was that Udoka\RW3 confab at the end of the game that drew some raised eyeballs

HOU is $10.6mil below the luxury tax line. So a RW3 ($12.4) for Landale ($8) would work nicely. Landale's contract is for 3 years, but is non-guaranteed and has club option in 3rd year

2025-26: non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed 6/29/25
2026-27: Club Option/non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed 6/29/26 (option deadline 6/29/26)

[Cwhappyhusband]

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Interesting possibility and there was that Udoka\RW3 confab at the end of the game that drew some raised eyeballs

HOU is $10.6mil below the luxury tax line. So a RW3 ($12.4) for Landale ($8) would work nicely. Landale's contract is for 3 years, but is non-guaranteed and has club option in 3rd year

2025-26: non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed 6/29/25
2026-27: Club Option/non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed 6/29/26 (option deadline 6/29/26)

Other reports suggest that Whitmore could be on the table. I'd hope Cronin would be pushing for that. If he were included, Tate's expiring deal would be enough to get the deal done. Getting overly optimistic, I know, but one can always hope.

[Walton1one]

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Houston is looking to center a trade package around Jock Landale, Jae’Sean Tate, and numerous second-round picks for a talent like Williams, sources said. Since the Blazers continue to build during their rebuild, centering a Williams package on second-round picks wouldn’t necessarily be their go-to option. After all, Williams is a player Portland specifically wanted in trade talks for Holiday with Boston. The Rockets, sources said, could be forced to part ways with a talented young player like Cam Whitmore in a deal for Williams.

HOU 2nd rounders are rather unappealing...
25 - HOU\OKC (least favorable)
26 - OKC\DAL\PHI (2nd most favorable)
26 - LAC\BOS\IND\MIA (least favorable, I think?)
27 - MEM
31 - Own

HOU owns (2) 27' 1st's & (2) 29 1st's + their own in 28/30/31
Love to see POR get their hands on the 25 1st, but that is currently right now #12 (via PHX, doubt they let that go) certainly not w\o some sort of protection (top3\top 5)

[dckingsfan]

I have no idea what the attraction of Jett Howard is. He's a crappy shooter, never gets to the FT line, a weak rebounder. He really does nothing at an average level; it's all mediocre or worse

simplify the trade:

Simons for Anthony + Harris + the more favorable of the 2025 Orlando/Denver first round picks

and waive Reath although Simons + Rupert just barely meets the trade differential rule

then, trade Timelord to Houston for Jock Londale's non-guaranteed contract. Then Waive Londale. That would put the Blazers over 20M below the tax line. Meaning they have the full MLE (13M) and Dame's 6.5M TPE as levers to absorb salary in exchange for a first round pick(s) and/or a couple of 2nd's

Do you do this for the Denver pick? Or if they push for a later protected pick? I would still make this deal.

I guess the question is does Orlando have the belief that Simons is the guy and are they willing to give up an FRP? I am skeptical.

Orlando can waive any combination of Black, Harris, Houston and Howard. Then they can sign their two '25 FRPs. That still gives them a back court of Suggs, KCP, Anthony and Joseph with guard being the strength of this draft and stay under the luxury.

[Walton1one]

This comes from ClutchPoints

https://clutchpoints.com/sources-rockets-robert-williams-iii-trade-buzz-surges-ime-udoka-exchange

It is no secret to anyone around the league that the Rockets have been seeking improvements in their frontcourt next to Sengun, and Williams has been linked to this organization since the summer.

Once again, Williams has emerged as a prime trade candidate for Houston ahead of the deadline, especially after a recent interaction with Udoka that raised eyebrows around the league.

In the aftermath of Houston's recent 125-103 victory over the Blazers, Williams was seen talking with Udoka and a couple of other Rockets staff members, some of whom covered their mouths while speaking with Portland's big man. Williams has always been fond of Udoka's coaching methods, and he would welcome a reunion with his former Boston Celtics coach, league sources told ClutchPoints. This feeling is mutual, as Udoka has always spoken very highly of Williams.

This all makes sense

Ahead of the NBA trade deadline approaching on Feb. 6, the Rockets have held discussions about Williams with the Blazers, sources said. However, these two teams have talked multiple times throughout the season. At no point have these discussions surrounding Williams ever progressed to the point where a trade was on the verge of happening. Still, Houston holds strong interest in adding the former All-Defensive center this season.

What Portland is looking for in a potential Williams trade is a mystery. Regarding Houston, Tari Eason would be an appealing young talent for the Blazers to want, yet the Rockets have made it abundantly clear that they don't hold interest in trading any of their recent first-round picks. Instead, Houston is looking to center a trade package around Jock Landale, Jae'Sean Tate, and numerous second-round picks for a talent like Williams, sources said.

Since the Blazers continue to build during their rebuild, centering a Williams package on second-round picks wouldn't necessarily be their go-to option. After all, Williams is a player Portland specifically wanted in trade talks for Holiday with Boston.

The Rockets, sources said, could be forced to part ways with a talented young player like Cam Whitmore in a deal for Williams. The Blazers are not just looking to dump Williams for anything they can get before the deadline since he is generating interest from multiple suitors. So, there has to be some real value coming back to Portland.

In addition to the Rockets holding discussions with the Blazers centered on Williams, the big man has also generated interest from the LA Clippers, Los Angeles Lakers, and Golden State Warriors in the Western Conference from the summer to this point in the 2024-25 season, sources said. Both the Clippers and Lakers have been known to hold interest in adding frontcourt help before the deadline.

In recent weeks, two other notable Eastern Conference teams have inquired about Williams' availability leading up to the deadline, one of which is firmly in the playoff conversation.

I wonder which teams?

A decision to possibly trade Williams will come down to whether the Blazers believe they are getting a good enough return for a player they specifically wanted from the Celtics.

As far as the Rockets' pursuit of Williams goes, two expiring salaries of Landale and Tate likely wouldn't move the needle, even if multiple second-round picks were attached to said deal. If Houston were to offer Landale, Whitmore, and two or three second-round picks, that should get Portland's stamp of approval.

The Rockets like Williams and believe his skill set is exactly what they lack in the frontcourt at the moment. Whether or not Houston looks to capitalize on its championship potential this season by bolstering the frontcourt with a name Udoka is familiar with remains to be seen.

[PDXKnight]

If reports are accurate blazers may be pretty reluctant to trade Williams. He's everything you want in a veteran other than being healthy. But the health thing is a big factor so I hope we can get assets moving forward

There of course is a price for everything but if we pass up on a decent first for rob I'd be disappointed

[Walton1one]

After the CHI game, Marang (who is full of crud most of the time) stated that POR has an established value for their players that they are not going to move off.

One of the dumbest comments I have seen in a while.

They can establish whatever dumb value they want, but unless another team is willing to PAY that value, they are not going to get it, and oh yeah, BTW RW3\Simons are FA after next year, so unless you are willing to NEGOTIATE like good GM's do, you are likely to lose those players for little\nothing. Stubborn to the point of stupidity is not a viable strategy.

Marang has his head so far up Cronin's you know what that he can't see anything but what they tell him to say. Trading credibility for access, an insufferable idiot.

[cucad8]

I'd do Londale and Cam or Tate and Cam and some 2nds for RW3 and be very happy. I'd prefer Londale, because of the structure of his deal, but won't hold out for him

[DusterBuster]

In recent weeks, two other notable Eastern Conference teams have inquired about Williams' availability leading up to the deadline, one of which is firmly in the playoff conversation.

I wonder which teams?

I have to believe the playoff one is Cleveland. They've been wanting frontcourt help and have reportedly in the past few weeks had exploratory talks with Portland - originally for Grant, but after his bad play this season and Cronin's price tag, makes sense they would pivot to a cheaper asset like Williams.

I could see the Bucks or Hawks being the other team.

[Walton1one]

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Wow, interesting bet by UTA, I think PHX gets the better deal here though