Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[drsd]

We should be 4th seed if healthy and a threat for 3 if we pick up a legit combo guard like Sexton or Simons.

Moved as a trade-thought.

If Orlando could flip Anthony and Howard for Sexton, the Magic's bench would be better. This is a simple trade to make!

To get Simons, Caldwell-Pope would have to be in the trade for rotational purposes. I believe in this trade, but I cannot imagine WePark acknowledging that Caldwell-Pope is ineffective on offense to pull the trigger on this trade. But let's call it Caldwell-Pope, Houstan, the better 2025 FRP, and the Magic's 2026 FRP for Simons.

If the Magic made both these trades, the depth chart come playoff time would be:
Suggs/Black/Joseph
Simons/Sexton/Queen
F-Wagner/da Silva/Harris
Banchero/Isaac
Bitadze/Carter

I think that is a very balanced roster. It still needs a 3rd-string combo-big, but me likey!

[Blue_and_Whte]

We should be 4th seed if healthy and a threat for 3 if we pick up a legit combo guard like Sexton or Simons.

Moved as a trade-thought.

If Orlando could flip Anthony and Howard for Sexton, the Magic's bench would be better. This is a simple trade to make!

To get Simons, Caldwell-Pope would have to be in the trade for rotational purposes. I believe in this trade, but I cannot imagine WePark acknowledging that Caldwell-Pope is ineffective on offense to pull the trigger on this trade. But let's call it Caldwell-Pope, Houstan, the better 2025 FRP, and the Magic's 2026 FRP for Simons.

If the Magic made both these trades, the depth chart come playoff time would be:
Suggs/Black/Joseph
Simons/Sexton/Queen
F-Wagner/da Silva/Harris
Banchero/Isaac
Bitadze/Carter

I think that is a very balanced roster. It still needs a 3rd-string combo-big, but me likey!

Common sense Trades? Drastically improving the team?. No thanks.

[Skybox]

We should be 4th seed if healthy and a threat for 3 if we pick up a legit combo guard like Sexton or Simons.

Moved as a trade-thought.

If Orlando could flip Anthony and Howard for Sexton, the Magic's bench would be better. This is a simple trade to make!

To get Simons, Caldwell-Pope would have to be in the trade for rotational purposes. I believe in this trade, but I cannot imagine WePark acknowledging that Caldwell-Pope is ineffective on offense to pull the trigger on this trade. But let's call it Caldwell-Pope, Houstan, the better 2025 FRP, and the Magic's 2026 FRP for Simons.

If the Magic made both these trades, the depth chart come playoff time would be:
Suggs/Black/Joseph
Simons/Sexton/Queen
F-Wagner/da Silva/Harris
Banchero/Isaac
Bitadze/Carter

I think that is a very balanced roster. It still needs a 3rd-string combo-big, but me likey!

Simons, positionally, is no different than Sexton…you wouldn’t need to include KCP. Plus, neither tanking team would take on a 31yo, $22m multi-year guaranteed win-now vet. In Simons’ case, you just add Harris’ expiring or even Moe’s (either could even be a buyout). For all of our offensive needs, I DO like having KCP’s incredible defense and 3pt shooting. 4 guards, 3 of them defensively elite, is a powerful rotation.

KCP, Sexton
Suggs, AB

COJO & Queen as deep bench

[JoshuaPotter]

We should be 4th seed if healthy and a threat for 3 if we pick up a legit combo guard like Sexton or Simons.

Moved as a trade-thought.

If Orlando could flip Anthony and Howard for Sexton, the Magic's bench would be better. This is a simple trade to make!

To get Simons, Caldwell-Pope would have to be in the trade for rotational purposes. I believe in this trade, but I cannot imagine WePark acknowledging that Caldwell-Pope is ineffective on offense to pull the trigger on this trade. But let's call it Caldwell-Pope, Houstan, the better 2025 FRP, and the Magic's 2026 FRP for Simons.

If the Magic made both these trades, the depth chart come playoff time would be:
Suggs/Black/Joseph
Simons/Sexton/Queen
F-Wagner/da Silva/Harris
Banchero/Isaac
Bitadze/Carter

I think that is a very balanced roster. It still needs a 3rd-string combo-big, but me likey!

Simons, positionally, is no different than Sexton…you wouldn’t need to include KCP. Plus, neither tanking team would take on a 31yo, $22m multi-year guaranteed win-now vet. In Simons’ case, you just add Harris’ expiring or even Moe’s (either could even be a buyout). For all of our offensive needs, I DO like having KCP’s incredible defense and 3pt shooting. 4 guards, 3 of them defensively elite, is a powerful rotation.

KCP, Sexton
Suggs, AB

COJO & Queen as deep bench

If Sexton could be had that cheeply i'm not sure why we haven't done it. I think we should trade Gary Harris at least all day for him. The challenge is, I see NJ wanting picks of some sort. But just what are we going to get with our picks at this point anyway? We can't play em all.

[Skybox]

Moved as a trade-thought.

If Orlando could flip Anthony and Howard for Sexton, the Magic's bench would be better. This is a simple trade to make!

To get Simons, Caldwell-Pope would have to be in the trade for rotational purposes. I believe in this trade, but I cannot imagine WePark acknowledging that Caldwell-Pope is ineffective on offense to pull the trigger on this trade. But let's call it Caldwell-Pope, Houstan, the better 2025 FRP, and the Magic's 2026 FRP for Simons.

If the Magic made both these trades, the depth chart come playoff time would be:
Suggs/Black/Joseph
Simons/Sexton/Queen
F-Wagner/da Silva/Harris
Banchero/Isaac
Bitadze/Carter

I think that is a very balanced roster. It still needs a 3rd-string combo-big, but me likey!

Simons, positionally, is no different than Sexton…you wouldn’t need to include KCP. Plus, neither tanking team would take on a 31yo, $22m multi-year guaranteed win-now vet. In Simons’ case, you just add Harris’ expiring or even Moe’s (either could even be a buyout). For all of our offensive needs, I DO like having KCP’s incredible defense and 3pt shooting. 4 guards, 3 of them defensively elite, is a powerful rotation.

KCP, Sexton
Suggs, AB

COJO & Queen as deep bench

If Sexton could be had that cheeply i'm not sure why we haven't done it. I think we should trade Gary Harris at least all day for him. The challenge is, I see NJ wanting picks of some sort. But just what are we going to get with our picks at this point anyway? We can't play em all.

Yeah...the picks are the whole basis of any deal with UTA or POR, in my estimation. Neither would likely consider Cole's guaranteed salary anything but a burden (it's only one year but...), so the pick(s) may also have to compensate a little for that too. Harris, Caleb, CoJo, and Moe are all expiring/TO's...but, ideally, we'd like to dump some guaranteed salary too...for me that's Cole, Jett, WCJ this summer...not that I think Jett is even a negative value-you just can't keep everything you like and add too...especially with cap issues looming...I'd happily opt out of the first round this summer to add one of those guards and a player that offers some frontcourt vet depth - I like Olynyk or Steven Adams, among others, for those roles. Robert Williams would be nice to fold into a Simons trade. Not sure who I like from UTA - John Collins would be ambitious, but unlikely and then, even I'd agree that it'd be tough to keep the group together financially.

[Idiosyncratic]

Cole Anthony for Terance Mann straight up. Would you do it?

Nah, Mann's contract is worse. Mann is like a healthier Gary Harris, but on a 3/47 contract. I would consider trading Wendell for him in the offseason if we draft or acquire a rotation big. Bad contract for bad contract change of scenery trade.

Cole more valuable than both simply because he only has 1 year left at 13 mil.

Mann has been played all over the place for the Clips. But basically, he's what AB should/could be. Taller athletic guard/wing hybrid who can take the ball up, initiate some, shoot the 3 (lowish vol), cut/drive to the basket, defend well.

Not an Iso guy really, but has floor vision, handle (RH dominant), speed and a jumpshot.

I like the player I just don't love turning Cole's 1/13 remaining contract into 3/47. Mann is better, but not sure that is the best allocation of our resources. We have to be pretty smart with our spending as the extensions kick in.

I did have him on my list of Wendell swaps in the offseason. No clue if Clippers would be interested.

[Skybox]

Drumroll...

ORL sends: ORL 25 frp, DEN 25 frp, Jett Howard
PHI sends: Jared McCain

*PHI is toast, but not ready to rebuild...2 extra frps and a prospect for a guy who is out for the season...They could try for a big TD deal if they believe it's not too late to save the season...or, just regroup over the summer, tank and get healthy for another immediate run. The idea is not for them to draft but, more likely, to flip those picks for a vet that can help sooner than McCain

ORL will NOT be able to draft a better fitting, exciting young player than Jared McCain...even if they tanked the rest of the season. The day before last year's draft, this would have been an absurdly high offer...but McCain has been like another Maxey. PHI might question whether the two make for a good backcourt pairing as they are very similar in strengths and weaknesses. ORL gets no benefit this year, but next year - it's on.

[eyriq]

Drumroll...

ORL sends: ORL 25 frp, DEN 25 frp, Jett Howard
PHI sends: Jared McCain

*PHI is toast, but not ready to rebuild...2 extra frps and a prospect for a guy who is out for the season...They could try for a big TD deal if they believe it's not too late to save the season...or, just regroup over the summer, tank and get healthy for another immediate run. The idea is not for them to draft but, more likely, to flip those picks for a vet that can help sooner than McCain

ORL will NOT be able to draft a better fitting, exciting young player than Jared McCain...even if they tanked the rest of the season. The day before last year's draft, this would have been an absurdly high offer...but McCain has been like another Maxey. PHI might question whether the two make for a good backcourt pairing as they are very similar in strengths and weaknesses. ORL gets no benefit this year, but next year - it's on.

Nah. No. No way.

First off, Jett appears to be developmentally on target. It is unlikely that his value has declined in the eyes of the front office. Considering where he was selected and how much better a draft it was, on the surface it's safe to say they value him more than McCain.

Second, McCain looked great in limited exposure but is now injured. Giving up two firsts and Jett for an injured and unproven player would be wild.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Drumroll...

ORL sends: ORL 25 frp, DEN 25 frp, Jett Howard
PHI sends: Jared McCain

*PHI is toast, but not ready to rebuild...2 extra frps and a prospect for a guy who is out for the season...They could try for a big TD deal if they believe it's not too late to save the season...or, just regroup over the summer, tank and get healthy for another immediate run. The idea is not for them to draft but, more likely, to flip those picks for a vet that can help sooner than McCain

ORL will NOT be able to draft a better fitting, exciting young player than Jared McCain...even if they tanked the rest of the season. The day before last year's draft, this would have been an absurdly high offer...but McCain has been like another Maxey. PHI might question whether the two make for a good backcourt pairing as they are very similar in strengths and weaknesses. ORL gets no benefit this year, but next year - it's on.

People refuse to add a 1st to get Sexton and you’re moving 2 1sts and Jett for McCain.

also think this is a massive overpay for a PG with a knee tear.

[The-Stallion70]

Should be interesting to see how AB responds to not being force-fed minutes on his next team like he is here. Would like to keep Jett around would like to see him get more of a shot.

[basketballRob]

Should be interesting to see how AB responds to not being force-fed minutes like he is here. Would like to keep Jett around would like to see him get more of a shot.

What's not to like with Jett? 37/30/80 and poor defense.

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[The-Stallion70]

Should be interesting to see how AB responds to not being force-fed minutes like he is here. Would like to keep Jett around would like to see him get more of a shot.

What's not to like with Jett? 37/30/80 and poor defense.

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Numbers should improve with consistent minutes, consistent role. Cmon basketballrob you're telling you didn't know this? I can't teach all the time.

[Skybox]

Drumroll...

ORL sends: ORL 25 frp, DEN 25 frp, Jett Howard
PHI sends: Jared McCain

*PHI is toast, but not ready to rebuild...2 extra frps and a prospect for a guy who is out for the season...They could try for a big TD deal if they believe it's not too late to save the season...or, just regroup over the summer, tank and get healthy for another immediate run. The idea is not for them to draft but, more likely, to flip those picks for a vet that can help sooner than McCain

ORL will NOT be able to draft a better fitting, exciting young player than Jared McCain...even if they tanked the rest of the season. The day before last year's draft, this would have been an absurdly high offer...but McCain has been like another Maxey. PHI might question whether the two make for a good backcourt pairing as they are very similar in strengths and weaknesses. ORL gets no benefit this year, but next year - it's on.

Nah. No. No way.

First off, Jett appears to be developmentally on target. It is unlikely that his value has declined in the eyes of the front office. Considering where he was selected and how much better a draft it was, on the surface it's safe to say they value him more than McCain.

Second, McCain looked great in limited exposure but is now injured. Giving up two firsts and Jett for an injured and unproven player would be wild.

It would be wild but McCain has shown more in under 600 minutes than AB & Black combined in 1.5 seasons...When you find "one" you grab it. PHI wouldn't do this unless Morey had a quick flip for those two frps in his back pocket for vet help anyway.

[Skybox]

Drumroll...

ORL sends: ORL 25 frp, DEN 25 frp, Jett Howard
PHI sends: Jared McCain

*PHI is toast, but not ready to rebuild...2 extra frps and a prospect for a guy who is out for the season...They could try for a big TD deal if they believe it's not too late to save the season...or, just regroup over the summer, tank and get healthy for another immediate run. The idea is not for them to draft but, more likely, to flip those picks for a vet that can help sooner than McCain

ORL will NOT be able to draft a better fitting, exciting young player than Jared McCain...even if they tanked the rest of the season. The day before last year's draft, this would have been an absurdly high offer...but McCain has been like another Maxey. PHI might question whether the two make for a good backcourt pairing as they are very similar in strengths and weaknesses. ORL gets no benefit this year, but next year - it's on.

People refuse to add a 1st to get Sexton and you’re moving 2 1sts and Jett for McCain.

also think this is a massive overpay for a PG with a knee tear.

Shows you what I think of McCain...also shows what I think of Jett and 2 frps in the 20's (and their guaranteed contracts)...also, shows what I think of praying for "organic development" of more children that haven't touched an NBA floor vs a proven offensive killer on a rookie deal, that's only 20yo.

[Skybox]

Should be interesting to see how AB responds to not being force-fed minutes like he is here. Would like to keep Jett around would like to see him get more of a shot.

What's not to like with Jett? 37/30/80 and poor defense.

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Numbers should improve with consistent minutes, consistent role. Cmon basketballrob you're telling you didn't know this? I can't teach all the time.

So, AB is being force-fed minutes and Jett is a fascinating prospect who deserves more pt to develop?

[The-Stallion70]

Sixers are going to be rebuilding soon why do you think they would trade their best young asset for more picks?

[RichCollab]

Drumroll...

ORL sends: ORL 25 frp, DEN 25 frp, Jett Howard
PHI sends: Jared McCain

*PHI is toast, but not ready to rebuild...2 extra frps and a prospect for a guy who is out for the season...They could try for a big TD deal if they believe it's not too late to save the season...or, just regroup over the summer, tank and get healthy for another immediate run. The idea is not for them to draft but, more likely, to flip those picks for a vet that can help sooner than McCain

ORL will NOT be able to draft a better fitting, exciting young player than Jared McCain...even if they tanked the rest of the season. The day before last year's draft, this would have been an absurdly high offer...but McCain has been like another Maxey. PHI might question whether the two make for a good backcourt pairing as they are very similar in strengths and weaknesses. ORL gets no benefit this year, but next year - it's on.

People refuse to add a 1st to get Sexton and you’re moving 2 1sts and Jett for McCain.

also think this is a massive overpay for a PG with a knee tear.

Shows you what I think of McCain...also shows what I think of Jett and 2 frps in the 20's (and their guaranteed contracts)...also, shows what I think of praying for "organic development" of more children that haven't touched an NBA floor vs a proven offensive killer on a rookie deal, that's only 20yo.

Your love or value for small guards who play Hero ball is amazing. No of the guys you love play winning ball.

[Skybox]

Sixers are going to be rebuilding soon why do you think they would trade their best young asset for more picks?

Because people lose their minds over frps..."Yeah, we gave up a contributing player, but we got X number of firsts". Rarely do you hear the followup where we learn who those late firsts became...they're just "firsts". Morey, in particular, might look to double down on Embiid and PG by flipping picks for another win-now vet...or, he might not. Just an idea...I'd be willing to bet, that at this time next year, whoever those two picks become (and Jett) won't be doing anything near what McCain did, even in an abbreviated season.

[Skybox]

People refuse to add a 1st to get Sexton and you’re moving 2 1sts and Jett for McCain.

also think this is a massive overpay for a PG with a knee tear.

Shows you what I think of McCain...also shows what I think of Jett and 2 frps in the 20's (and their guaranteed contracts)...also, shows what I think of praying for "organic development" of more children that haven't touched an NBA floor vs a proven offensive killer on a rookie deal, that's only 20yo.

Your love or value for small guards who play Hero ball is amazing. No of the guys you love play winning ball.

More lazy cliches...like offense is irrelevant

[Bensational]

Drumroll...

ORL sends: ORL 25 frp, DEN 25 frp, Jett Howard
PHI sends: Jared McCain

*PHI is toast, but not ready to rebuild...2 extra frps and a prospect for a guy who is out for the season...They could try for a big TD deal if they believe it's not too late to save the season...or, just regroup over the summer, tank and get healthy for another immediate run. The idea is not for them to draft but, more likely, to flip those picks for a vet that can help sooner than McCain

ORL will NOT be able to draft a better fitting, exciting young player than Jared McCain...even if they tanked the rest of the season. The day before last year's draft, this would have been an absurdly high offer...but McCain has been like another Maxey. PHI might question whether the two make for a good backcourt pairing as they are very similar in strengths and weaknesses. ORL gets no benefit this year, but next year - it's on.

People refuse to add a 1st to get Sexton and you’re moving 2 1sts and Jett for McCain.

also think this is a massive overpay for a PG with a knee tear.

I actually love this trade idea, but doubt Philly would consider it. McCain is a stud on a rookie contract and there’s not much chance they’ll strike gold like that again with the late picks we’re offering in return (though they’ve done it twice with Maxey and McCain now). I don’t think the injury is gonna stop him doing what he does as a shooter, and his shot looks pure.