Tank Watch 2025

[Arsenal]

So he’s going to miss 2/3 of the rest of the games with groin tightness? That seems unlikely.

He can always sprain an ankle at practice, tweak the knee again, or even come down with the flu. Some times you just have bad luck!

The NBA would definitely take those at face value. They have never meddled with our organization due to tanking because of injuries. They certainly wouldn’t send any kind of third party auditor to check on the legitimacy of the injuries. That wouldn’t be Silver’s MO.

I agree it would take some courage on the part of little Joshy considering how he bent himself over for the league last time. Hopefully he made the corrupt bargain with Adam Slither as part of the arena negotiations.

[Zumramania]

so frustrating watching the success of OKC and HOU knowing that this was the path Hinkie had laid out for us before Silver and the Colangelos ruined it.

Meanwhile, OKC and HOU were allowed to tank as hard as they wanted with no repercussions.

Back then if you tanked, you had much higher odds of landing a first pick. In Silver's eyes, Hinkie made a mockery out of the league by tanking so openly, by fielding G league rosters and by breaking losing records. I'm sure the other owners and GM's weren't happy about it either. In fact I think it is the other teams' owners who finally persuaded Silver to force Sixers to fire Hinkey and install Colangelos. Poor Hinkie.

But now it is different, it would be a different kind of tank job. Embiid's body is so worn out by all the injuries that he could sit out for an entire season just rehabbing. Injuries seem to have caught up with PG as well, and he could play here and there but that would not prevent the tank. Only poor Maxey will have to play every game! But he also seems to have lost the shooting touch a bit this year.

Nurse is really coaching like he's trying to lose, but then again he did the same thing in Toronto so one can just say he can't coach young players. He also looks lost and despondent, so you could never say if he's tanking or just doesn't know how to coach a team like this or both.

[Eyeamok]

so frustrating watching the success of OKC and HOU knowing that this was the path Hinkie had laid out for us before Silver and the Colangelos ruined it.

Meanwhile, OKC and HOU were allowed to tank as hard as they wanted with no repercussions.

As good as OKC is and as much NBA draft capital as they have at their disposal they could potentially run into the problem of having too many good guys and no way of developing all of them. Egos will get bruised and hard decisions will have to be made. As Biggie Paul used to say (he's the cousin of Biggie Smalls) "Mo draft picks Mo problems!"

[MVP1992]

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[Eyeamok]

so frustrating watching the success of OKC and HOU knowing that this was the path Hinkie had laid out for us before Silver and the Colangelos ruined it.

Meanwhile, OKC and HOU were allowed to tank as hard as they wanted with no repercussions.

As good as OKC is and as much NBA draft capital as they have at their disposal they could potentially run into the problem of having too many good guys and no way of developing all of them. Egos will get bruised and hard decisions will have to be made. As Biggie Paul used to say (he's the cousin of Biggie Smalls) "Mo draft picks Mo problems!"

Wish we had that problem but with a different coach

This team was on it's way to having a problem similar to this and Adam Silver and the Colangelo put a stop to our asset and talent collection. True story bro !

And in my opinion the coach is not the problem. A healthy Embiid, or as healthy as he has been in past seasons, and we this team is top 3 in the East easily.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Hornets beat the Mavs! Win for us. Jazz and Pels go at it later and that'll be another win. Need Pels to take that one.

[SixersSince82]

Certainly, it’s better to get our pick back than to end up without a draft pick entirely.
Trading George to tank feels like solving a headache by cutting off your feet. Sure, it might ease the pain in the short term and make things seem manageable, but you’ll quickly realize it was a mistake when you need to start walking again.

You got it backwards. Signing Paul George was solving a headache (replacing Tobias Harris) by cutting off your feet.

The 6ers very clearly don't need to trade Paul George to tank. They need to trade him to get out of his awful contract and gain at least a modicum of flexibility to try to move in some direction... Cause stasis (a Joel, Maxey, PG core) is very clearly not going to cut it.

[76ciology]

so frustrating watching the success of OKC and HOU knowing that this was the path Hinkie had laid out for us before Silver and the Colangelos ruined it.

Meanwhile, OKC and HOU were allowed to tank as hard as they wanted with no repercussions.

They knew Hinkie’s drafting was notoriously bad, so they stepped in to prevent further damage. This was during a time when people around the league and media were already emphasizing the shift toward a smaller, perimeter oriented game.

Can’t say the same for OKC and HOU, though.

Every time they tanked, they made progress. Meanwhile, we were going nowhere year after year. And what’s worse is we keep drafting flawed big man after big man or guards who can’t shoot.

There’s more than a handful of guys here in this board who can be the GM of the Sixers and tank every year, but there’s only a few people in the world who how to pick the right talent and put them all together.

I want Morey in charge if we ever decide to tank. He has a proven track record of finding talent with non-lotto picks, like Maxey and McCain. I’m confident that, given the chance, he’d build a more perimeter-oriented team, aligning with the modern NBA.

Morey also has a knack for maximizing upcoming trends, like leveraging the new apron rules to sign Paul George. Thanks to him, we’ve overextended this contender window—drafting Maxey (and maybe McCain), trading for Harden, and signing George. Most GMs wouldn’t have been able to pull off these moves.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Pelicans beat Utah...Gets us closer.
Tomorrow could be a big tank night for us.
Need Portland to beat Miami
Need Raptors to beat Magic
Nets over Knicks
Then we need Denver to beat us.

[the_process]

so frustrating watching the success of OKC and HOU knowing that this was the path Hinkie had laid out for us before Silver and the Colangelos ruined it.

Meanwhile, OKC and HOU were allowed to tank as hard as they wanted with no repercussions.

They knew Hinkie’s drafting was notoriously bad, so they stepped in to prevent further damage. This was during a time when people around the league and media were already emphasizing the shift toward a smaller, perimeter oriented game.

Can’t say the same for OKC and HOU, though.

Every time they tanked, they made progress. Meanwhile, we were going nowhere year after year. And what’s worse is we keep drafting flawed big man after big man or guards who can’t shoot.

There’s more than a handful of guys here in this board who can be the GM of the Sixers and tank every year, but there’s only a few people in the world who how to pick the right talent and put them all together.

I want Morey in charge if we ever decide to tank. He has a proven track record of finding talent with non-lotto picks, like Maxey and McCain. I’m confident that, given the chance, he’d build a more perimeter-oriented team, aligning with the modern NBA.

Morey also has a knack for maximizing upcoming trends, like leveraging the new apron rules to sign Paul George. Thanks to him, we’ve overextended this contender window—drafting Maxey (and maybe McCain), trading for Harden, and signing George. Most GMs wouldn’t have been able to pull off these moves.

And yet both the Harden trade and the George probably were not the best options on the board at the time the moves were made. Don't get me wrong. They're both justifiable. Just not the most optimal. Also, I have a real problem with Morey's championship odds formula, it's flawed and outdated based on the rosters he keeps assembling.

Hinkie's drafting was hit and miss. But at least you understood the philosophy. Also, he was not married to his picks and was willing to flip them quickly at a profit, even though the Colangelos blocked one such deal.

[Eyeamok]

Pelicans beat Utah...Gets us closer.
Tomorrow could be a big tank night for us.
Need Portland to beat Miami
Need Raptors to beat Magic
Nets over Knicks
Then we need Denver to beat us.

It will be 1-4. Denver will beat the 76ers.

[Eyeamok]

so frustrating watching the success of OKC and HOU knowing that this was the path Hinkie had laid out for us before Silver and the Colangelos ruined it.

Meanwhile, OKC and HOU were allowed to tank as hard as they wanted with no repercussions.

They knew Hinkie’s drafting was notoriously bad, so they stepped in to prevent further damage. This was during a time when people around the league and media were already emphasizing the shift toward a smaller, perimeter oriented game.

Can’t say the same for OKC and HOU, though.

Every time they tanked, they made progress. Meanwhile, we were going nowhere year after year. And what’s worse is we keep drafting flawed big man after big man or guards who can’t shoot.

There’s more than a handful of guys here in this board who can be the GM of the Sixers and tank every year, but there’s only a few people in the world who how to pick the right talent and put them all together.

I want Morey in charge if we ever decide to tank. He has a proven track record of finding talent with non-lotto picks, like Maxey and McCain. I’m confident that, given the chance, he’d build a more perimeter-oriented team, aligning with the modern NBA.

Morey also has a knack for maximizing upcoming trends, like leveraging the new apron rules to sign Paul George. Thanks to him, we’ve overextended this contender window—drafting Maxey (and maybe McCain), trading for Harden, and signing George. Most GMs wouldn’t have been able to pull off these moves.

And yet both the Harden trade and the George probably were not the best options on the board at the time the moves were made. Don't get me wrong. They're both justifiable. Just not the most optimal. Also, I have a real problem with Morey's championship odds formula, it's flawed and outdated based on the rosters he keeps assembling.

Hinkie's drafting was hit and miss. But at least you understood the philosophy. Also, he was not married to his picks and was willing to flip them quickly at a profit, even though the Colangelos blocked one such deal.

AND Hinkie was collecting draft picks and swaps like they were going out of style. Oh you need cap space to make a deal, throw me some draft picks, oh you want to use my cap space give me a pick swap.

[Mik317]

...i'd argue Jah was Hinkie's only real total miss (off the top of my head) as most of the guys have had long NBA careers and includes undrafted dudes like TJ and Cov. OKC hasn't hit on all of their picks either Dieng for example blows, Poku didn't make it to the end of his contract. Hell their best player came from them trading PG lol. The Rockets are a nice team but IMO still feel like they are missing THAT guy as well and their best pick is Sengun who was an afterthought.

and its a lot easier to tank when you have other people's picks....which thanks to Bynum we did not.

But regardless of all of that...the issue was that the NBA didn't even let Hinkie fail imo... I had my qualms with how quickly he moved on from guys and the same nerd brain **** Morey has of if he isn't a star then he is worthless to me was probably going to **** us but thats beyond the point as the NBA inserted Collars who was desperate to prove himself and rushed it and we are paying for that right now. Needed a happy medium of sorts imo. Not Hinkie's kick the can until you field an all star team of high draft picks but not Collars/Brand plan of trade all of the picks asap for named stars and hope it works. Literraly have spent most of the recent years cleaning up messes...creating new ones...and not getting any further. All the while the centerpiece (who lets be honest it feels like 2 of the previous GMs never really felt was the centerpiece) is no longer capable of covering up the in construction tier rosters anymore.

[SixersSince82]

Morey also has a knack for maximizing upcoming trends, like leveraging the new apron rules to sign Paul George. Thanks to him, we’ve overextended this contender window—drafting Maxey (and maybe McCain), trading for Harden, and signing George. Most GMs wouldn’t have been able to pull off these moves.

Interesting perspective, re: Most GMs wouldn't have been able to pull off these moves.

I don't think most GMs would have had the patience Morey displayed during the Ben Simmons saga. Similarly I dont think most GMs would have had the discipline (or perhaps its merely job security) to hold out last year to enact the "cap space" plan this summer. He definitely deserves credit for that stuff.

But... his ultimate targets, over the hill former all-stars, in Harden and George, are the exact type of players that generic, average, GMs target. (I mean, its exactly what Billy King did with AI. bouncing between Big Dog and C-webb.) I don't think Morey deserves any credit for acquiring either one of them. If anything, they are 2 examples of him being short sighted, desperate, and living in the past.


I generally like Morey. But if he's seriously trying to win a championship in Philadelphia his plan cannot be to simply hope that Joel will magically be healthy for a long playoff run. If the 6ers want to win a title they need a real plan that's focused on acquiring a player better and more capable of leading us to playoff success than any one of Joel, Maxey or PG are.

[Negrodamus]

I'm keeping Morey for as long as he's willing to stay as long as he doesn't trade away picks. We have been killing it in drafts recently; if anything, lets get more picks. Bona, McCain, Springer, Petrusev, Bassey, Maxey, Isaiah Joe, Paul Reed. I know the last crop was not Morey, but many of the FO guys have been the same since then: Ned Cohen, Prosper Karangwa, Kevin Owens... 7/8 of those guys (Petrusev overseas) are on an NBA team ranging from deep bench (Springer) to All Star (Maxey). If this grouping can stick together, I love our drafting potential.

[M2J]

Sixers fans should support any swap of picks or players possible to get full rights of this year's pick with OKC.

I will refuse to believe 76ers will keep that pick unless they finish 4th worst or better. Tank came too late

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Portland won....
Raptors won...
These are small wins for us that will add up if we continue losing. Like I said, I think we can catch a fee of these teams. Charlotte, Portland, Toronto, and New Orleans are four teams that we can outtank if we just stay with goal (Cooper Flagg).

[LeonJordanJr24]

I'm keeping Morey for as long as he's willing to stay as long as he doesn't trade away picks. We have been killing it in drafts recently; if anything, lets get more picks. Bona, McCain, Springer, Petrusev, Bassey, Maxey, Isaiah Joe, Paul Reed. I know the last crop was not Morey, but many of the FO guys have been the same since then: Ned Cohen, Prosper Karangwa, Kevin Owens... 7/8 of those guys (Petrusev overseas) are on an NBA team ranging from deep bench (Springer) to All Star (Maxey). If this grouping can stick together, I love our drafting potential.

Moreys doing a crappy job

[Negrodamus]

I'm keeping Morey for as long as he's willing to stay as long as he doesn't trade away picks. We have been killing it in drafts recently; if anything, lets get more picks. Bona, McCain, Springer, Petrusev, Bassey, Maxey, Isaiah Joe, Paul Reed. I know the last crop was not Morey, but many of the FO guys have been the same since then: Ned Cohen, Prosper Karangwa, Kevin Owens... 7/8 of those guys (Petrusev overseas) are on an NBA team ranging from deep bench (Springer) to All Star (Maxey). If this grouping can stick together, I love our drafting potential.

Moreys doing a crappy job

OK.

[SixthStreet]

It doesn't seem like we will have to shut down George to effectively tank. It seems like he's in full coasting mode.

Maxey, detached George, and the rest of these guys cannot win games. We can just shut down both Martins so then we are down to only two guys that play consistently hard (Maxey and Yubusele) in the rotation.

This is a great tanking squad.