HangTime wrote:ConSarnit wrote:HangTime wrote:
He may be in year 4, but did you know notice how different his first 2 year's, and second half of year 3 were.
And yes, he's one of young guys, but he's so far ahead those guys we have. Let the whole team develop first, and he'll sprinkle in things here and there.
People are treating Scottie like a "Normal type of player" that's kind of how Nick Nurse played him, in a "normal role". On the rare occasion we'd see Scottie try to take over, because Fred and Pascal couldn't.
He's like a Chameleon, most people don't see the high-end primary option, but thankfully, that's their loss.
Is there any evidence this type of approach works? Even if your "wait for the other guys to catch up" theory is correct why is Barnes choosing to be bad in many scoring areas? Your entire argument is filled with contradictions.
Hey Scottie, why can't you hit 3's? "I can, just waiting for my teammates to catch up."
Hey Scottie, why can't you get to the rim consistently or draw fouls? "I can, just waiting for my team to catch up."
Hey Scottie, why haven't your iso or post-up number improved? "I could if I wanted, just waiting for my teammates to catch up."
None of these things have anything to do with "waiting for his teammates". Is he just choosing to shoot poorly from 3 until Walter is in his 3rd year?
1) Your hypothesis is that Barnes is purposely playing badly while he waits for his teammates to catch up.
2) You are pretty much arguing that Barnes is purposefully sabotaging this team by not playing his best.
3) Name one other successful NBA player who has ever taken this approach. And if your contention is that Barnes needs more reps as a #1 because he didn't get them with FVV/Siakam why isn't he getting them now? First he's hamstrung by FVV and Siakam and now he's waiting for the young guys to catch up.
4) I can't wait for Barnes to finally take charge in 2028.
"Don't worry guys, Barnes is star he's just choosing to hide it from us this season. He could play better if he wanted, make all-NBA and get an extra $40m but he's sacrificing for the team"
Don't you see how bad this argument is?
1) He's working on other parts of his game.
2) You may think what I'm saying is Sabotaging, but what I'm saying is that he's Sacrificing.
Exactly the way Pascal and Fred should have sacrificed for him.
He's doing that now for the others.
3) Again, He's not a "normal type of player" he did get some reps, but with Whacky spacing, That's to turn up the difficulty level.
4) We are literally in year 1 of the rebuild.
This is the way my mind Sees it
Answer this: even if your premise is correct and Barnes is sacrificing why does he continue to be inefficient in so many areas of his offensive game? What does shooting 30% from 3 have to do with sacrificing? Sacrificing would be reducing volume, not efficiency.
And if your contention is that he was held back by FVV and Siakam how do you reconcile the fact that he’s played the 2nd most total minutes of anyone in his draft class. Barnes has played over 8000 minutes. Were all of those minutes strictly as a role player? Or the fact that we have seen multiple players who would eventually reach stardom start their careers as ensemble pieces playing far lesser roles than Barnes has.
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