PG: A win is a win...I guess

[GONYK]

I honestly don't care who they go to at this point just let someone soak up some extra minutes so I don't see tired legs on the 4th qtr all the time.

Go with Dadiet. At least Dadiet has something to prove. Shamet looks like a JV player 90% of the time.

Ryan Dunn plays 20 mpg for the Suns. Would have been nice except the FO had to get cute. Instead they drafted a player who will be DNP-CD for three seasons.

We drafted Dadiet because he agreed to take 80% of rookie scale. If that didn't happen, we don't have room under the apron to acquire KAT.

To my knowledge, Dunn didn't do that.

As someone who was banging the table for Dunn, I think that's a major factor here.

[The KnicksFix]

I made the switch to FuboTV so I couldn't watch the game since they don't have TNT. Well not exactly, I still have access to MAX through Optimum for another day but I tried to start the game later like I usually do when I DVR the games (it was already over) but MAX doesn't let you replay the game? I don't know why, I never watched a game on there before. I know Amazon Prime lets you start from the beginning after the game is over, or at least have the ability to resume where you left off, when I watch Yankee games. I'm concerned when the playoffs start and this happens again when they play on TNT. I can't watch games live bc of my kids being awake and Peppa Pig or Danny Go etc is on the TV haha. Any input or tips would be helpful as I'm used to cable.

2nd game of a back to back and won. I'll take any win we can get. I'm still concerned about this team tho. We need Mitch back or some kind of presence inside so KAT can move to the 4. I'm sure some have brought this up but why doesn't Hukporti get any minutes at all? The few times he played I thought he was effective and it wasn't garbage time. Preseason too he looked like a solid big to have out there.

Sling tv allows you to have DVR but im not sure if they have MSG

[thebuzzardman]

Go with Dadiet. At least Dadiet has something to prove. Shamet looks like a JV player 90% of the time.

Ryan Dunn plays 20 mpg for the Suns. Would have been nice except the FO had to get cute. Instead they drafted a player who will be DNP-CD for three seasons.

We drafted Dadiet because he agreed to take 80% of rookie scale. If that didn't happen, we don't have room under the apron to acquire KAT.

To my knowledge, Dunn didn't do that.

As someone who was banging the table for Dunn, I think that's a major factor here.

Couldn't they have simply not drafted Hukporti?

I mean, he doesn't play anyway.

Wait, I forgot. Thibs needs to roster 5 centers.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I'm not even tryna be minutes police. The bench unit gave a nice boost in the first half and barely got a look in the second half. They earned minutes and weren't rewarded.

I like Precious, but he's had some issues battling much bigger guys in the paint defensively. I really think Mitch could unlock another level for this team, and it's needed if they want to beat the contenders instead of being the next-best team after them.

If Mitch comes back do you trade Precious at the deadline? I know you need Mitch insurance but is the need for a quality wing more needed to spell OG minutes?

I don't think you can play Mitch and Precious together...the spacing will be mucked up.

If Shamet isn't earning 2nd half minutes and Thibs isn't going to throw Dadiet out there to see what we have we desperately need another bigger wing that Thibs trusts to get some minutes.

I think you roll the dice and move Precious and/or Sims for a wing if Mitch is back. Precious works next to KAT because of the spacing, but I agree that he's a bad fit next to Mitch or Sims. So getting a big wing that can eat some PF minutes next to Mitch would be nice, and if Mitch goes back down, Precious is too undersized for most bigs anyway.

Honestly...if they're so concerned about Mitch that they can't move Precious for a wing, then they should try to package Precious with matching salary for Valanciunas. Get a true C off the bench, and sign TJ Warren to be the additional wing once his pro-rated salary fits the cap space.

I think you have to play the guys you have.

We have 4 healthy players that can play the 5.
KAT/Precious/Sims/Hukporti

We have 3 healthy players that can play the 4.
KAT/OG/Precious

We have 3 healthy players that can play the 3.
OG/Hart/Mikal

We have 5 healthy players that can play the 2.
Mikal/Hart/Deuce/Payne/Shamet

We have 3 healthy players that can play PG.
Brunson/Payne/Deuce

Plus Kolek and Dadiet and Ryan.

FIGURE IT OUT!

Thibs acting like he doesn't have the bodies is hurting the team. There's zero reason why the rookies got no burn when the schedule was weak. There's zero reason why we have guys playing 40 minutes a game. If Thibs can't figure it out, then why is he here? He's supposed to be the HC but he can't coach an offense to save his life. He can't adjust his defense to fit the roster he has. He can't develop roles for players or use his bench? What exactly does he do?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I'm not even tryna be minutes police. The bench unit gave a nice boost in the first half and barely got a look in the second half. They earned minutes and weren't rewarded.

I like Precious, but he's had some issues battling much bigger guys in the paint defensively. I really think Mitch could unlock another level for this team, and it's needed if they want to beat the contenders instead of being the next-best team after them.

If Mitch comes back do you trade Precious at the deadline? I know you need Mitch insurance but is the need for a quality wing more needed to spell OG minutes?

I don't think you can play Mitch and Precious together...the spacing will be mucked up.

If Shamet isn't earning 2nd half minutes and Thibs isn't going to throw Dadiet out there to see what we have we desperately need another bigger wing that Thibs trusts to get some minutes.

Mitch is always 1 instance away from missing 6 months. That makes trading Precious such a roll of the dice, because as much as Tom talked up Sims earlier in the season he doesn't want to play him if there's another option.


The somewhat ideal situation is that Jonas gets a buyout, and then they can choose between Mitch and Precious. The only way I want Jonas on this team is if he's here as a buyout, and we can actually sign him since he makes less than $12.8 million. He's a horrible defender but if he's here on a buyout I can stomach that, especially if it means we can trade for a wing

[Context]

I remember the good ol days when it didn't matter how many points we won by and we would be equally ecstatic.

This really. I have a feeling that many are still butthurt over being wrong about the KAT trade and his actual impact, outperforming Randle and all that, so now they can’t enjoy a win anymore and will be first in line on the doomsday front every time we go through a very rough 50-50ish kind of stretch. It impacts the realgm experience.

It should’ve been clear to everyone that this roster has some holes and wouldn’t perform like a well-oiled machine. We have no starting center or wing on the bench. I don’t know what everyone is expecting. This team has still been very good.

I wont get into the Randle stuff but I will say that I agree. At the very least- it's pretty evident with Thibs coaching style we need Mitch back...and we will never hit that machine level until he comes back...

[Context]

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I love this stat! so he was one of those player Durant was talking about who looked down on the Knicks...Now what Clax?!

[mpharris36]

Go with Dadiet. At least Dadiet has something to prove. Shamet looks like a JV player 90% of the time.

Ryan Dunn plays 20 mpg for the Suns. Would have been nice except the FO had to get cute. Instead they drafted a player who will be DNP-CD for three seasons.

We drafted Dadiet because he agreed to take 80% of rookie scale. If that didn't happen, we don't have room under the apron to acquire KAT.

To my knowledge, Dunn didn't do that.

As someone who was banging the table for Dunn, I think that's a major factor here.

Yeah my guess is dadiet was a worked out agreement to pay him less to pick him in 1st round. And we agreed not to stash him but he had to take paycut. Dunn wouldn't have done that. But it sucks because dadiet isn't contributing this year or at least thibs won't trust him too.

[Context]

I wish the NBA would figure out how they want to officiate games.

It seems like Kat gets NO calls and Brunson a little less. But they HATE Kat

I wonder if the FO has sent video compilations of Kat getting fouled on drives with no calls. Rick Carlisle would have

thibs said he does it all the time...

[mpharris36]

I'm not even tryna be minutes police. The bench unit gave a nice boost in the first half and barely got a look in the second half. They earned minutes and weren't rewarded.

I like Precious, but he's had some issues battling much bigger guys in the paint defensively. I really think Mitch could unlock another level for this team, and it's needed if they want to beat the contenders instead of being the next-best team after them.

If Mitch comes back do you trade Precious at the deadline? I know you need Mitch insurance but is the need for a quality wing more needed to spell OG minutes?

I don't think you can play Mitch and Precious together...the spacing will be mucked up.

If Shamet isn't earning 2nd half minutes and Thibs isn't going to throw Dadiet out there to see what we have we desperately need another bigger wing that Thibs trusts to get some minutes.

Mitch is always 1 instance away from missing 6 months. That makes trading Precious such a roll of the dice, because as much as Tom talked up Sims earlier in the season he doesn't want to play him if there's another option.


The somewhat ideal situation is that Jonas gets a buyout, and then they can choose between Mitch and Precious. The only way I want Jonas on this team is if he's here as a buyout, and we can actually sign him since he makes less than $12.8 million. He's a horrible defender but if he's here on a buyout I can stomach that, especially if it means we can trade for a wing

I thought because we were an apron team we can't sign buyout players? Maybe I'm wrong.


Maybe a 3 way trade. Mitch to a 3rd team some draft capital and salary to wash and we get Val and maybe Champagne. He's 6'6. Solid rebounder. Think he would fit in well as a NY guy. Good culture fit.

Then you can play Val and Precious together even because Val can space the floor a bit.

[Context]

I think it's obvious why some of us are upset even after this win. We are 45 games in. Last season we were 28-17. This season we are 29-16. A measley 1 game improvement. This off-season we saw the FO pretty much give away every asset we had meaning what you see in front of you is what you have. Sure we can make some minor additions and subtractions but this is the core for the next 3 years. This is the core the FO believes will bring us a championship after 50 years.

The reality is that we are only a 1 game improved team. Reality is that Thibs is still doing the same shiz and running his starters into the ground. Reality is we will probably be banged up and injured just as much as last post season and won't be able to make a finals run. Reality is that Thibs gets out coached almost every night. Reality is that our starting
1 and 5 can't guard anything. Reality is even if our bench got decent minutes, I'm not confident they can produce to the level our bench did last season. Reality is that many think we took a huge step forward this season with this roster but nothing so far this season has actually showed that. Reality is that we are a treadmill team going no where.

I hate that I can't disagree with the spirit of this...I'm just hoping that Mitch comes back fully healthy and that next level kicks in...
Maybe some of the bench guys are getting close to earning Thibs confidence too and thibs will play them more. What else can we do but hope? We are not Leon. No point in beating a dead horse and not enjoying the season...

[NoDopeOnSundays]

If Mitch comes back do you trade Precious at the deadline? I know you need Mitch insurance but is the need for a quality wing more needed to spell OG minutes?

I don't think you can play Mitch and Precious together...the spacing will be mucked up.

If Shamet isn't earning 2nd half minutes and Thibs isn't going to throw Dadiet out there to see what we have we desperately need another bigger wing that Thibs trusts to get some minutes.

Mitch is always 1 instance away from missing 6 months. That makes trading Precious such a roll of the dice, because as much as Tom talked up Sims earlier in the season he doesn't want to play him if there's another option.


The somewhat ideal situation is that Jonas gets a buyout, and then they can choose between Mitch and Precious. The only way I want Jonas on this team is if he's here as a buyout, and we can actually sign him since he makes less than $12.8 million. He's a horrible defender but if he's here on a buyout I can stomach that, especially if it means we can trade for a wing

I thought because we were an apron team we can't sign buyout players? Maybe I'm wrong.

We cant sign anyone that makes more than $12.8 million per season prior to their buyout. Jonas makes $9.9 million, the real question is would he pursue a buyout while having another guaranteed year. Their asking price for him in a trade is beyond stupid.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I remember the good ol days when it didn't matter how many points we won by and we would be equally ecstatic.

This really. I have a feeling that many are still butthurt over being wrong about the KAT trade and his actual impact, outperforming Randle and all that, so now they can’t enjoy a win anymore and will be first in line on the doomsday front every time we go through a very rough 50-50ish kind of stretch. It impacts the realgm experience.

It should’ve been clear to everyone that this roster has some holes and wouldn’t perform like a well-oiled machine. We have no starting center or wing on the bench. I don’t know what everyone is expecting. This team has still been very good.

I wont get into the Randle stuff but I will say that I agree. At the very least- it's pretty evident with Thibs coaching style we need Mitch back...and we will never hit that machine level until he comes back...

He can't adjust things until then? He can't give Hukporti a shot for more than 5 minutes a month? What is the team supposed to do when Mitch sits? What if he gets hurt again? There's no other option without Mitch?

This idea that Mitch will save us is a problem. They knew for MONTHS Mitch was not going to play. Thibs did nothing to work around that. Hukporti can't play 15 minutes? His boy Sims was playing a ton before Precious came back. Then it was off to Siberia. Then he STARTED HIM! Then he went back to Siberia to keep Hukporti warm. Precious barely gets 20mpg when he is needed. OG/Mikal can't get off the court.

If Mitch is the only player in the universe that can fix things, then we have a serious problem. It's not the roster. It's the HC.

[mpharris36]

Mitch is always 1 instance away from missing 6 months. That makes trading Precious such a roll of the dice, because as much as Tom talked up Sims earlier in the season he doesn't want to play him if there's another option.


The somewhat ideal situation is that Jonas gets a buyout, and then they can choose between Mitch and Precious. The only way I want Jonas on this team is if he's here as a buyout, and we can actually sign him since he makes less than $12.8 million. He's a horrible defender but if he's here on a buyout I can stomach that, especially if it means we can trade for a wing

I thought because we were an apron team we can't sign buyout players? Maybe I'm wrong.

We cant sign anyone that makes more than $12.8 million per season prior to their buyout. Jonas makes $9.9 million, the real question is would he pursue a buyout while having another guaranteed year. Their asking price for him in a trade is beyond stupid.

hmm I mean Leon and co. seemed buddy buddy with him last time we were in Wash. Maybe they work something out.

His defense would be a concern but at least he's a big and typically reliable for health reasons.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I thought because we were an apron team we can't sign buyout players? Maybe I'm wrong.

We cant sign anyone that makes more than $12.8 million per season prior to their buyout. Jonas makes $9.9 million, the real question is would he pursue a buyout while having another guaranteed year. Their asking price for him in a trade is beyond stupid.

hmm I mean Leon and co. seemed buddy buddy with him last time we were in Wash. Maybe they work something out.

His defense would be a concern but at least he's a big and typically reliable for health reasons.

Thibs doesn't know how to use a player like JV. He can't even figure out how to use anyone off his own bench. He doesn't even try. If we don't get Mitch back healthy he is never going to figure it out. Three year extension that doesn't kick in until next year. If he is still the HC we are not winning anything other than regular season games. We win regular season games because he runs his starter into the ground. That doesn't work in the playoffs when everyone else does it too.

[NYKinMIA]

IMO, the way the refs are handling Kat and Brunon lends credence to the league being fix...to be honest. I just
block it out and enjoy the games and players...

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this is a legit a thing and it seems to be getting worse I think.

imagine bitching about a close win over a rival that always brings their best, on a b2b for good measure.

[kNicksGmen]

up 10 early, up 10 late. up 5 very late. and nearly lost. no bueno.

[Spree2Houston]

If we can’t get a wing at the deadline then play Dadiet. I really hope Mitch looks good and healthy when he comes back so Hart can come off the bench. Ideally I would prefer our rotation to be something like this

Brunson/Payne
Bridges/Mcbride
Anunoby/Dadiet/Hart
KAT/Hart
Mitch/KAT

9 man rotation. Nobody playing over 36 mins. Fresh legs for the starters in the 4th

[Gravy]

IMO, the way the refs are handling Kat and Brunon lends credence to the league being fix...to be honest. I just
block it out and enjoy the games and players...

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this is a legit a thing and it seems to be getting worse I think.

imagine bitching about a close win over a rival that always brings their best, on a b2b for good measure.

People were saying before the game we need to win by 60 on a b2b with all the rookies playing, so they set themselves up to be angry unless it was that outcome

[Context]

I wish the NBA would figure out how they want to officiate games.

It seems like Kat gets NO calls and Brunson a little less. But they HATE Kat

I wonder if the FO has sent video compilations of Kat getting fouled on drives with no calls. Rick Carlisle would have

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