PG: A win is a win...I guess

[dakomish23]

The good news is that we now get 3 days off until 1/25 vs the Kings.

I'm really looking forward to that game. That team has been playing real well lately (9-1 last 10).

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I thought because we were an apron team we can't sign buyout players? Maybe I'm wrong.

We cant sign anyone that makes more than $12.8 million per season prior to their buyout. Jonas makes $9.9 million, the real question is would he pursue a buyout while having another guaranteed year. Their asking price for him in a trade is beyond stupid.

hmm I mean Leon and co. seemed buddy buddy with him last time we were in Wash. Maybe they work something out.

His defense would be a concern but at least he's a big and typically reliable for health reasons.

Jonas only makes sense if they actually plan on starting Mitch and KAT together and then staggering their minutes, with Jonas as an insurance policy and guy that soaks up a few minutes.

That way you can trade Precious for some kind of veteran wing and have Hart off the bench with that wing. But, if they trade actual assets for Jonas it's idiotic.

[GONYK]

We cant sign anyone that makes more than $12.8 million per season prior to their buyout. Jonas makes $9.9 million, the real question is would he pursue a buyout while having another guaranteed year. Their asking price for him in a trade is beyond stupid.

hmm I mean Leon and co. seemed buddy buddy with him last time we were in Wash. Maybe they work something out.

His defense would be a concern but at least he's a big and typically reliable for health reasons.

Jonas only makes sense if they actually plan on starting Mitch and KAT together and then staggering their minutes, with Jonas as an insurance policy and guy that soaks up a few minutes.

That way you can trade Precious for some kind of veteran wing and have Hart off the bench with that wing. But, if they trade actual assets for Jonas it's idiotic.

Agreed on both counts, but I'm not sure starting KAT and Mitch together makes sense to begin with.

[Context]

This really. I have a feeling that many are still butthurt over being wrong about the KAT trade and his actual impact, outperforming Randle and all that, so now they can’t enjoy a win anymore and will be first in line on the doomsday front every time we go through a very rough 50-50ish kind of stretch. It impacts the realgm experience.

It should’ve been clear to everyone that this roster has some holes and wouldn’t perform like a well-oiled machine. We have no starting center or wing on the bench. I don’t know what everyone is expecting. This team has still been very good.

I wont get into the Randle stuff but I will say that I agree. At the very least- it's pretty evident with Thibs coaching style we need Mitch back...and we will never hit that machine level until he comes back...

He can't adjust things until then? He can't give Hukporti a shot for more than 5 minutes a month? What is the team supposed to do when Mitch sits? What if he gets hurt again? There's no other option without Mitch?

This idea that Mitch will save us is a problem. They knew for MONTHS Mitch was not going to play. Thibs did nothing to work around that. Hukporti can't play 15 minutes? His boy Sims was playing a ton before Precious came back. Then it was off to Siberia. Then he STARTED HIM! Then he went back to Siberia to keep Hukporti warm. Precious barely gets 20mpg when he is needed. OG/Mikal can't get off the court.

If Mitch is the only player in the universe that can fix things, then we have a serious problem. It's not the roster. It's the HC.

JB...it is what it is...it's like taxes...complaining- stressing and constantly thinking about it is going to spoil your season. Just enjoy the good times. Could you imagine if the nba and their whistles really controlled these game? I'm not saying they do- I'm just saying-
if Brunson and Kat got 25% more whistles- how well do you think this team woud be playing?

I'll tell you what I think. We would be up by 20 in many more games and the bench would have gotten more mintues. Ultimately
gaining Thibs confidence and ultmately leading to a better record. Etc...Maybe the nba doesnt want to spoil their narrative -
maybe they need to let OKC get one this year. The league's veiwership is down and they're 100's of billions at stake. who knows
what's really going on....

I just used that as an example of- ryhythm/momentum. We just dont know at this point. We have to focus on the good stuff
and see how this plays out. It's this groups 1st year. I'm sure Leon is assessing everything in the first year...

No question that Thibs will not change--thinking about that is no fun- the alternative is focusing on all negative aspects of this team- if I have to do that- I might as well not watch and spend my thoughts somewhere else..just saying bro

[NoDopeOnSundays]

hmm I mean Leon and co. seemed buddy buddy with him last time we were in Wash. Maybe they work something out.

His defense would be a concern but at least he's a big and typically reliable for health reasons.

Jonas only makes sense if they actually plan on starting Mitch and KAT together and then staggering their minutes, with Jonas as an insurance policy and guy that soaks up a few minutes.

That way you can trade Precious for some kind of veteran wing and have Hart off the bench with that wing. But, if they trade actual assets for Jonas it's idiotic.

Agreed on both counts, but I'm not sure starting KAT and Mitch together makes sense to begin with.

Against certain teams it makes sense, like the Cavs, you nullify their advantage and turn them back into a small team because their guards would be guarding OG and Mikal, there's no where to hide Garland.

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[kNicksGmen]

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i wanted this to start the year but precious was hurt and josh has played very well overall.

the one issue with starting precious is then i think you need to play another big off the bench - especially if Kat gets in foul trouble. makes the sub pattern weird otherwise.

#FreeHuk

but i like the size, rebounding and defense of that lineup - plus precious gives you another screener.

[thebuzzardman]

If we can’t get a wing at the deadline then play Dadiet. I really hope Mitch looks good and healthy when he comes back so Hart can come off the bench. Ideally I would prefer our rotation to be something like this

Brunson/Payne
Bridges/Mcbride
Anunoby/Dadiet/Hart
KAT/Hart
Mitch/KAT

9 man rotation. Nobody playing over 36 mins. Fresh legs for the starters in the 4th

Don't worry about any wings. Dadiet will be kicking major ass in 2029.

[thebuzzardman]

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Of course this stat completely ignores that KAT and Precious are compiling those stats largely against 2nd units.

I'm sure it'll work out great against starting lineups.

[Besart19]

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makes the most sense

Towns / Robinson
Achiuwa / J.Hart
Anunoby / Warren
Bridges / McBride
Brunson / Payne (i would prefer Kolek)

[thebuzzardman]

We cant sign anyone that makes more than $12.8 million per season prior to their buyout. Jonas makes $9.9 million, the real question is would he pursue a buyout while having another guaranteed year. Their asking price for him in a trade is beyond stupid.

hmm I mean Leon and co. seemed buddy buddy with him last time we were in Wash. Maybe they work something out.

His defense would be a concern but at least he's a big and typically reliable for health reasons.

Jonas only makes sense if they actually plan on starting Mitch and KAT together and then staggering their minutes, with Jonas as an insurance policy and guy that soaks up a few minutes.

That way you can trade Precious for some kind of veteran wing and have Hart off the bench with that wing. But, if they trade actual assets for Jonas it's idiotic.

Start Mitch and KAT? Wouldn't the cost of Jonas BE Mitch?

Precious is, what, 7 million per? Where's the other 5 million come from? Deuce? No thanks.

[FrozenEnvelope]

Ugliest win of the season but it's all Sydney Sweeney's fault. Those twins are distracting!

[thebuzzardman]

Imagine the offensive disaster of two guys on the floor together in OG and Precious who you really don't want taking more than 2 dribbles.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

hmm I mean Leon and co. seemed buddy buddy with him last time we were in Wash. Maybe they work something out.

His defense would be a concern but at least he's a big and typically reliable for health reasons.

Jonas only makes sense if they actually plan on starting Mitch and KAT together and then staggering their minutes, with Jonas as an insurance policy and guy that soaks up a few minutes.

That way you can trade Precious for some kind of veteran wing and have Hart off the bench with that wing. But, if they trade actual assets for Jonas it's idiotic.

Start Mitch and KAT? Wouldn't the cost of Jonas BE Mitch?

Precious is, what, 7 million per? Where's the other 5 million come from? Deuce? No thanks.

If Jonas got a buyout we'd be able to sign him, he has another guaranteed year, but CAA mob ties could make up the difference after next year.

I wouldn't want to trade assets for him - Precious, Sims and Payne works, but if you're going to trade those guys it should be for a wing and not another C. It doesn't really matter what Payne does, he's not playing much.

[G_K_F]

What do the kids say these day? we're cooked?

We're cooked.

[thebuzzardman]

Jonas only makes sense if they actually plan on starting Mitch and KAT together and then staggering their minutes, with Jonas as an insurance policy and guy that soaks up a few minutes.

That way you can trade Precious for some kind of veteran wing and have Hart off the bench with that wing. But, if they trade actual assets for Jonas it's idiotic.

Start Mitch and KAT? Wouldn't the cost of Jonas BE Mitch?

Precious is, what, 7 million per? Where's the other 5 million come from? Deuce? No thanks.

If Jonas got a buyout we'd be able to sign him, he has another guaranteed year, but CAA mob ties could make up the difference after next year.

I wouldn't want to trade assets for him - Precious, Sims and Payne works, but if you're going to trade those guys it should be for a wing and not another C. It doesn't really matter what Payne does, he's not playing much.

I guess that depends on if the Knicks think Kolek is ready to absorb those Payne minutes, providing the PG play that Payne provides in a better way than Deuce, plus some microwave scoring.

Also, I've always thought the Knicks were looking to deal 1 out 2 of Precious/Mitch, but if it's Precious, that leaves them with no backup PFs, though Precious is more a small 5 than a 4, but still.

Clearing Sims and Precious does solve some of the C glut. A little.

[BKlutch]

I made the switch to FuboTV so I couldn't watch the game since they don't have TNT. Well not exactly, I still have access to MAX through Optimum for another day but I tried to start the game later like I usually do when I DVR the games (it was already over) but MAX doesn't let you replay the game? I don't know why, I never watched a game on there before. I know Amazon Prime lets you start from the beginning after the game is over, or at least have the ability to resume where you left off, when I watch Yankee games. I'm concerned when the playoffs start and this happens again when they play on TNT. I can't watch games live bc of my kids being awake and Peppa Pig or Danny Go etc is on the TV haha. Any input or tips would be helpful as I'm used to cable.

2nd game of a back to back and won. I'll take any win we can get. I'm still concerned about this team tho. We need Mitch back or some kind of presence inside so KAT can move to the 4. I'm sure some have brought this up but why doesn't Hukporti get any minutes at all? The few times he played I thought he was effective and it wasn't garbage time. Preseason too he looked like a solid big to have out there.

Sling tv allows you to have DVR but im not sure if they have MSG

I have DirecTVstream and get both MSG and YES. I don't want much else on DTV so I'm considering dropping it and paying for the Gotham App. I have other streaming services I enjoy watching, so maybe that's a good idea. Can you subscribe to Gotham? It's ok, except that sometimes (only 1-2 times/game) during foul shots, they show a split screen with a commercial on the right half and they cut off the Knicks announcers mid-syllable! It lasts about 15 seconds, but Breen and Clyde often discuss plays during free throw shooting, so you miss out on that.

[Besart19]

hmm I mean Leon and co. seemed buddy buddy with him last time we were in Wash. Maybe they work something out.

His defense would be a concern but at least he's a big and typically reliable for health reasons.

Jonas only makes sense if they actually plan on starting Mitch and KAT together and then staggering their minutes, with Jonas as an insurance policy and guy that soaks up a few minutes.

That way you can trade Precious for some kind of veteran wing and have Hart off the bench with that wing. But, if they trade actual assets for Jonas it's idiotic.

Start Mitch and KAT? Wouldn't the cost of Jonas BE Mitch?

Precious is, what, 7 million per? Where's the other 5 million come from? Deuce? No thanks.

Achiuwa is 6, Jonas is 10M

[thebuzzardman]

Jonas only makes sense if they actually plan on starting Mitch and KAT together and then staggering their minutes, with Jonas as an insurance policy and guy that soaks up a few minutes.

That way you can trade Precious for some kind of veteran wing and have Hart off the bench with that wing. But, if they trade actual assets for Jonas it's idiotic.

Start Mitch and KAT? Wouldn't the cost of Jonas BE Mitch?

Precious is, what, 7 million per? Where's the other 5 million come from? Deuce? No thanks.

Achiuwa is 6, Jonas is 10M

Knicks would have to shed depth just to add another C. Not interested.

I get two of the pieces in the trade would be from the pile of centers the Knicks have, but still.

And they'd lose the 2nd most effective bench player in Payne.

Like up higher, if they trust Kolek, maybe.

Should be for a wing though, like NoDope says.

[Nostrand Ave]

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Remember that one game Josh Hart was out where the Knicks looked unstoppable.