Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[three3d]

I’m trying to prepare myself for trade deadline disappointment but it’s difficult. I’m willing to give up AB, TDS, Jett, a 1st, and two 2nds for whoever.

Rumor that Sacramento wants Cam and is willing to offer a protected first but NJ wants an unprotected 1st.

Rumors the Blazers would take 2 seconds and a prospect for Simons.

Vuc for a protected first to the Warriors.

Simons is such a no brainer for us especially at that asking price.

[three3d]

Hell would even give up the less favorable of our two first round draft picks this year straight up for Simons

[Blue_and_Whte]

9-29 from 3 29% - No improvement needed though.

[RichCollab]

Prob the only bright spot of this injury-riddled season has shown who is good enough to a rotation player and who needs to be shipped out. Paolo, Franz, Suggs and Goga are basically our best players with Mo off the bench. Without these guys we suck

AB and TDS have shown glimpses and overall should be bench players as they continue to improve. KCP we just signed and the FO likes so I'm sure they want to keep him for the playoffs.

The tradeable: Wendell, JI, Cole, Jett, Gary and everyone else should be shopped this summer before the draft to get us some damn shooting help. We arent going nowhere with this historically atrocious offense. Weltman cant continue this patient watch and see approach. Its long overdue to make a move.

You know, I agree with this list. Especially the tradable aspects. If you can flip 1/2 of those players for an actual shooting big (do they exist?) and get some known commodity shooters out of the consolidation of Cole / Jett / Gary that really could work out for us.

AB / TDS while having upside are perfect off the bench today and totally servicable in a starting lineup.

Yeah I'm not sold on AB or TDS as core pieces but they are on rookie contracts and can provide valuable production off the bench. Unless its for a significantly better rotation player on a decent contract, I don't see our front office moving them.

We have to get rid of Wendell Carters contract. Goga has made him disposable. WCJr still holds some value in the league for teams that needs staring C that can hit open shot (most times).

I will think we need to find a serviceable starting level PG alongside suggs and move KCP to the bench. Sexton makes too much sense here. Give Utah Wendell, FRP and filler to make it happen.

Sexton
Suggs
Franz
P5
Goga

Bench
AB
KCP
TDS
Mo (next season)
Isaac


Tell me that rotation doesn't get you excited to make a playoff push?

Sexton as a starter? Throws up.

[RichCollab]

The way we play is as much responsible for our shooting as the players we have. We basically punch ourselves out with all the effort we give on defense.

We need to improve on offense no doubt but being a top shooting team or offensive team isn’t the way this team was built.

There is an underlying philosophy of defense travels and repeatable every game and shooting isn’t always. Betting on the variables that are more controllable and consistent.

This philosophy needs a healthy team the majority of time as effort depends on players pushing their limits while on the floor.

[OrlandoDream]

You know, I agree with this list. Especially the tradable aspects. If you can flip 1/2 of those players for an actual shooting big (do they exist?) and get some known commodity shooters out of the consolidation of Cole / Jett / Gary that really could work out for us.

AB / TDS while having upside are perfect off the bench today and totally servicable in a starting lineup.

Yeah I'm not sold on AB or TDS as core pieces but they are on rookie contracts and can provide valuable production off the bench. Unless its for a significantly better rotation player on a decent contract, I don't see our front office moving them.

We have to get rid of Wendell Carters contract. Goga has made him disposable. WCJr still holds some value in the league for teams that needs staring C that can hit open shot (most times).

I will think we need to find a serviceable starting level PG alongside suggs and move KCP to the bench. Sexton makes too much sense here. Give Utah Wendell, FRP and filler to make it happen.

Sexton
Suggs
Franz
P5
Goga

Bench
AB
KCP
TDS
Mo (next season)
Isaac


Tell me that rotation doesn't get you excited to make a playoff push?

Sexton as a starter? Throws up.

Would you prefer continuing to watch Anthony Black and every guard we have miss open 3s and shoot league worse 20% 3Pt range? nothing is worse then that

[OrlandoDream]

Coby White is an interesting target. He is on a friendly contract, good size PG, can shoot and score on a bad team. Bulls are sellers but idk how likely they are to trade him for the right price.

[RichCollab]

Yeah I'm not sold on AB or TDS as core pieces but they are on rookie contracts and can provide valuable production off the bench. Unless its for a significantly better rotation player on a decent contract, I don't see our front office moving them.

We have to get rid of Wendell Carters contract. Goga has made him disposable. WCJr still holds some value in the league for teams that needs staring C that can hit open shot (most times).

I will think we need to find a serviceable starting level PG alongside suggs and move KCP to the bench. Sexton makes too much sense here. Give Utah Wendell, FRP and filler to make it happen.

Sexton
Suggs
Franz
P5
Goga

Bench
AB
KCP
TDS
Mo (next season)
Isaac


Tell me that rotation doesn't get you excited to make a playoff push?

Sexton as a starter? Throws up.

Would you prefer continuing to watch Anthony Black and every guard we have miss open 3s and shoot league worse 20% 3Pt range? nothing is worse then that

I’m ready to get healthy so we can move players into roles there better suited for and will be more successful in.

[eyriq]

I actually really like our likely playoff eight man rotation:

Guards: Suggs, KCP, AB
Forwards: Paolo, Franz, JI
Bigs: Goga, WCJ

Does it have the promise of high octane offense? No. Paolo, Franz, and Suggs will be the primary offensive options and will need to be staggered heavily because AB and JI are terrible offensive players. I don't even know if that can give us top 20 offense but I trust it can. Paint points, offensive rebounding, and free throw rate can all be strengths for this rotation.

So the offense will be better but still not great. The defense though? Best in the league, I believe that. Good enough for a first round win.

[The-Stallion70]

Sexton is not the guy people. He's a ballpounding scoring guard who would take reps away from Franz and PB. He might argue with them for the ball. He gets his at the expense of his teammates, I think he could be a great sixth man but keep him away from a team with good chemistry.

[The-Stallion70]

I actually really like our likely playoff eight man rotation:

Guards: Suggs, KCP, AB
Forwards: Paolo, Franz, JI
Bigs: Goga, WCJ

Does it have the promise of high octane offense? No. Paolo, Franz, and Suggs will be the primary offensive options and will need to be staggered heavily because AB and JI are terrible offensive players. I don't even know if that can give us top 20 offense but I trust it can. Paint points, offensive rebounding, and free throw rate can all be strengths for this rotation.

So the offense will be better but still not great. The defense though? Best in the league, I believe that. Good enough for a first round win.

I don't, i think losing Mo was kind of big and our offense is even worse now with Goga starting. I personally us making a move to help the offense.

[basketballRob]

Franz for Sexton. Paolo for John Collins

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[Skybox]

Sexton is not the guy people. He's a ballpounding scoring guard who would take reps away from Franz and PB. He might argue with them for the ball. He gets his at the expense of his teammates, I think he could be a great sixth man but keep him away from a team with good chemistry.

Might, might, might

Don't bring in anyone good or they might take reps away from our present offensive program...is our present system something to protect? Ask Franz & Paolo if they would like a third scoring option...right now there really isn't one...I'd have to argue Moe-and that's pretty sad.

Don't be afraid of talent...the star players sure wouldn't be

[eyriq]

I actually really like our likely playoff eight man rotation:

Guards: Suggs, KCP, AB
Forwards: Paolo, Franz, JI
Bigs: Goga, WCJ

Does it have the promise of high octane offense? No. Paolo, Franz, and Suggs will be the primary offensive options and will need to be staggered heavily because AB and JI are terrible offensive players. I don't even know if that can give us top 20 offense but I trust it can. Paint points, offensive rebounding, and free throw rate can all be strengths for this rotation.

So the offense will be better but still not great. The defense though? Best in the league, I believe that. Good enough for a first round win.

I don't, i think losing Mo was kind of big and our offense is even worse now with Goga starting. I personally us making a move to help the offense.

JI for Cam Johnson would be amazing

[Skybox]

I actually really like our likely playoff eight man rotation:

Guards: Suggs, KCP, AB
Forwards: Paolo, Franz, JI
Bigs: Goga, WCJ

Does it have the promise of high octane offense? No. Paolo, Franz, and Suggs will be the primary offensive options and will need to be staggered heavily because AB and JI are terrible offensive players. I don't even know if that can give us top 20 offense but I trust it can. Paint points, offensive rebounding, and free throw rate can all be strengths for this rotation.

So the offense will be better but still not great. The defense though? Best in the league, I believe that. Good enough for a first round win.

I don't, i think losing Mo was kind of big and our offense is even worse now with Goga starting. I personally us making a move to help the offense.

JI for Cam Johnson would be amazing

Why does BRK do that...Claxton/Isaac frontline? There'd have to be pick(s).

Although, trading for Isaac is a low-key way to cut salary next year when he "magically" drops $10m off his salary (and is still the same guy)

[rcklsscognition]

I don’t like our playoff rotation at all. Moe was why we were good he scored and made our bench one of the best in the NBA and we’ve made no attempt to replace him. We need offense off the bench in a serious way.

[eyriq]

I don’t like our playoff rotation at all. Moe was why we were good he scored and made our bench one of the best in the NBA and we’ve made no attempt to replace him. We need offense off the bench in a serious way.

I get you.

WCJ should be a two-way player but has been decimated by injuries I guess.
JI is a one dimensional player.
AB is a one dimensional player.

That's a great defensive bench rotation but I don't trust the offense.

With AB, he is developing and most of the immediate growth needs to be on the offensive side of the ball. WCJ is a mystery, bro has fallen off. JI is what he is.

Suggs isn't exactly a great offensive player either, but I trust him more than AB at this point in time. KCP is a spot-up shooter, that role isn't transformative. So the starting backcourt isn't going to light it on fire.

Eventually Anthony Black will beat out Suggs as our starting point guard and we'll be able to trade Suggs for a bonafide 3rd option at shooting guard. But until then our backcourt is going to be defense first.

[thelead]

Make no mistake, Moe works because JI and AB are so good defensively off the bench. Same could be said the other way too. JI and AB work well off the bench because Moe is so good offensively. They mask each other’s weaknesses. Take one away and the whole thing crumbles.

[Bensational]

Eventually Anthony Black will beat out Suggs as our starting point guard and we'll be able to trade Suggs for a bonafide 3rd option at shooting guard.

I see little chance Suggs gets moved unless the team implodes. He is the heart and leader of the defense. He sets the tone and inspires the others. He also has those explosive games where his 3’s drop and he plays like Chauncey Billups.

Don’t start an AB v Suggs division, the fanbase doesn’t need it. The intention is for them to play together. Cole is the ‘scorer’ who will be replaced. Jett and Houstan are scorers who will be replaced unless their shots start falling. KCP will probably be replaced once his contract is up.

[eyriq]

Eventually Anthony Black will beat out Suggs as our starting point guard and we'll be able to trade Suggs for a bonafide 3rd option at shooting guard.

I see little chance Suggs gets moved unless the team implodes. He is the heart and leader of the defense. He sets the tone and inspires the others. He also has those explosive games where his 3’s drop and he plays like Chauncey Billups.

Don’t start an AB v Suggs division, the fanbase doesn’t need it. The intention is for them to play together. Cole is the ‘scorer’ who will be replaced. Jett and Houstan are scorers who will be replaced unless their shots start falling. KCP will probably be replaced once his contract is up.

Haha, I strategically placed that in there for someone because I'm a bad person.