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[CrimsonCrew]

Coen pulled out of the Jags search. Not good....

Does Saleh really want to risk ruining his chances of ever being head coach again? Is he that desperate to jump right back into head coaching so quickly? He's only 45. If he gets the Jags job and they have another bad season everyone there could be one and done. But Niners will still have options and time to conduct other interviews. Maiocco says they've definitely had talks with other candidates behind the scenes.

The Jags aren't super appealing, but they've got a good QB (in theory) and some pieces in place. It's certainly better than the Jets when Saleh stepped in. The reality is that good situations don't often have openings (Bears this year maybe an exception), so you're kind of stuck choosing between bottom-dwellers.

Anyway, we'll see what shakes out, but if they miss out of Saleh and fall back on Staley or another second-rate choice, it's got to be viewed as really blowing this process, and I would have Shanahan on a very short rope if the D plays anything like the way it did this year.

[Jikkle]

Coen pulled out of the Jags search. Not good....

Now Baalke just got fired.

Sounds like Jags really wanted Johnson and Coen and being rejected by both was probably the final straw.

I'm sure both gave the same feedback and it boiled down to not working with Baalke.

Probably actually good news for the 9ers because it might mean the Jags job gets a lot more interest and might indicate Saleh isn't especially high on their list.

[Big J]

Coen pulled out of the Jags search. Not good....

Does Saleh really want to risk ruining his chances of ever being head coach again? Is he that desperate to jump right back into head coaching so quickly? He's only 45. If he gets the Jags job and they have another bad season everyone there could be one and done. But Niners will still have options and time to conduct other interviews. Maiocco says they've definitely had talks with other candidates behind the scenes.

Don't blame him. HC salaries pay a lot more than an assistant gig would.

[Jikkle]

To add the Baalke firing might put Coen back in play for the Jags.

If Baalke was the main obstacle they could circle back to Coen, offer more money, and heavy input on the next GM and he might take the job now.

[CrimsonCrew]

Baalke was the biggest drawback to that job, so if Saleh is offered the position, seems more likely he'd take it. That said, report was that he didn't mind Baalke, so this might be a sign that they aren't really interested in Saleh. We'll see.

[Big J]

Sounds like we might be going after Pete Carroll for DC.

[CrimsonCrew]

The Lions losing both coordinators could be big. Campbell is a good HC - though he can make some curious decisions at times - but he's not a playcaller. If he doesn't get the right guys in to replace the ones he's losing, that team could slip a bit next year.

[clyde21]

The Lions losing both coordinators could be big. Campbell is a good HC - though he can make some curious decisions at times - but he's not a playcaller. If he doesn't get the right guys in to replace the ones he's losing, that team could slip a bit next year.

i'd be on them taking a substantial step back, losing both coordinators is tough especially when your HC is not a coordinator himself

[Jikkle]

Sounds like we might be going after Pete Carroll for DC.

We'd have to lose out on Saleh and Pete would have to lose out on the Raiders HC job.

Also no telling if he's actually interested because they haven't talked to him they basically are talking among themselves about the possibility.

In fact I'm guessing this tidbit might've leaked on purpose to maybe get a conversation started with him about it.

I'm still in the new scheme camp but I'd place Pete right there with Saleh in terms of quality of hire. Either of them would bring energy to the sidelines that this defense tends to feed on and the one thing with Pete is he always seemed to have a knack when it came to coaching up the secondary.

[Jikkle]

Baalke was the biggest drawback to that job, so if Saleh is offered the position, seems more likely he'd take it. That said, report was that he didn't mind Baalke, so this might be a sign that they aren't really interested in Saleh. We'll see.

I take firing Baalke more of a sign that they aren't really that interested in Saleh or I don't think Baalke would've been fired.

In fact it's hard to tell how much of their interest in Saleh was driven by Baalke because I'm sure he was motivated propping up candidates that would work with him.

I expect them now to go fishing for more candidates because with Baalke out of the picture and a chance to have input on the next GM will make the job way more attractive. Not to mention you theoretically have a franchise QB and you also are working with a top 5 pick this upcoming draft so you do have some parts to work with.

[Big J]

The Lions losing both coordinators could be big. Campbell is a good HC - though he can make some curious decisions at times - but he's not a playcaller. If he doesn't get the right guys in to replace the ones he's losing, that team could slip a bit next year.

I dunno, both of his coordinators were absolutely awful in that game against Washington.

[49er4life1979]

Baalke was the biggest drawback to that job, so if Saleh is offered the position, seems more likely he'd take it. That said, report was that he didn't mind Baalke, so this might be a sign that they aren't really interested in Saleh. We'll see.

I take firing Baalke more of a sign that they aren't really that interested in Saleh or I don't think Baalke would've been fired.

In fact it's hard to tell how much of their interest in Saleh was driven by Baalke because I'm sure he was motivated propping up candidates that would work with him.

I expect them now to go fishing for more candidates because with Baalke out of the picture and a chance to have input on the next GM will make the job way more attractive. Not to mention you theoretically have a franchise QB and you also are working with a top 5 pick this upcoming draft so you do have some parts to work with.

I agree. At this point with Baalke out, I doubt it will be Saleh. The candidates will get to basically decide the next GM. And that team definitely has talent. Lawrence, a nice young WR Brian Thomas Jr, two very good pass rushers in Allen-Hines and Walker, a good CB in Tyson Campbell. The fact that their two preferred canidates were Johnson and Coen says they want an offensive minded coach.

[49er4life1979]

Sure enough according to Ian Rapoport the Jaguars are expected to expand their coaching search now with Baalke out of the picture. They will not limit themselves to just Saleh and Graham.

[Pattersonca65]

Sounds like we might be going after Pete Carroll for DC.

We'd have to lose out on Saleh and Pete would have to lose out on the Raiders HC job.

Also no telling if he's actually interested because they haven't talked to him they basically are talking among themselves about the possibility.

In fact I'm guessing this tidbit might've leaked on purpose to maybe get a conversation started with him about it.

I'm still in the new scheme camp but I'd place Pete right there with Saleh in terms of quality of hire. Either of them would bring energy to the sidelines that this defense tends to feed on and the one thing with Pete is he always seemed to have a knack when it came to coaching up the secondary.

Pete's name is drawn by 49er's internal discussions. While it certainly in the realgm of possibility of Pete actually willing to do it. Hall of fame HCs going back to DCs is rare. Even BB was linked the same way but BB had no interest in going back to it

[Harry Palmer]

Doesn’t necessarily mean we’re screwed…you can get to the right place by the wrong road and vice versa…but it’s generally not great when you get to the ‘dark horse candidate emerging’ stage of the coaching carousel.

[clyde21]

Lol, there is no way Pete Carroll is going to come here just to answer to Kyle

as for Saleh, do we even have a plan B for DC if he doesn't come here, or is the contingency plan just going to be Staley?

[Pattersonca65]

Lol, there is no way Pete Carroll is going to come here just to answer to Kyle

as for Saleh, do we even have a plan B for DC if he doesn't come here, or is the contingency plan just going to be Staley?

I think it is a long shot for any HOF coach to go back to cordinating. I hope they have other plans other than Staley if Saleh doesnt become DC. This has dragged on too long

[CrimsonCrew]

Going to stop freaking out about it for now, but I'll be really, really judgmental if it ends badly and the team suffers for it next year.

The Sorenson hiring could not have gone worse. Fell from 3rd in points allowed to 29th; 1st to 32nd in 4th quarter scoring; 7th to 25th in turnovers, and only forced two turnovers in the final 9 games. It's hard to conceptualize how much worse the team was.

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[Pattersonca65]

I think Dallas hired a hc? Brian Schottemheimer?