Tired of pretending Jimmy doesn't make the Suns instant contenders

[uncleduck13]

First off, Jimmy Butler is a significantly better player than Bradley Beal. Second, he fits so much better alongside KD and Book. With Beal, there was far too much redundancy. Beal was pretty much an 80% replica of Booker. Jimmy is different. He adds a different dynamic. Stylistically he isn't even close to the other two. Sure, he loves the middy, but he knows how to get his in other spaces too. He won't create nearly as much conflict on the offensive end. Defensively is where he truly shines with this team. Never has he played alongside two guys that can carry the scoring load and put him in position to focus mainly on defense. He's always had to do so much on offense, to the point where his defense is compromised. This won't be the issue in Phoenix. He instantly becomes their best perimeter defender, while still being able to give them the 17-19ppg that Beal provided. Him not having to carry such a load offensively, is going to allow him to be fresh and enhance his performance in the playoffs and actually SUSTAIN it for an ENTIRE run. Also, Jimmy is a 'culture' within himself. He'll add that dog/toughness/leadership that this team has always been missing. I know the Big 3 formula may not be successful anymore... but the Suns with Jimmy would surely have the best 3 headed monster in the league. By far.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

First off, Jimmy Butler is a significantly better player than Bradley Beal. Second, he fits so much better alongside KD and Book. With Beal, there was far too much redundancy. Beal was pretty much an 80% replica of Booker. Jimmy is different. He adds a different dynamic. Stylistically he isn't even close to the other two. Sure, he loves the middy, but he knows how to get his in other spaces too. He won't create nearly as much conflict on the offensive end. Defensively is where he truly shines with this team. Never has he played alongside two guys that can carry the scoring load and put him in position to focus mainly on defense. He's always had to do so much on offense, to the point where his defense is compromised. This won't be the issue in Phoenix. He instantly becomes their best perimeter defender, while still being able to give them the 17-19ppg that Beal provided. Him not having to carry such a load offensively, is going to allow him to be fresh and enhance his performance in the playoffs and actually SUSTAIN it for an ENTIRE run. Also, Jimmy is a 'culture' within himself. He'll add that dog/toughness/leadership that this team has always been missing. I know the Big 3 formula may not be successful anymore... but the Suns with Jimmy would surely have the best 3 headed monster in the league. By far.

[sashaturiaf]

Just Jimmy by himself? Nah Suns issues are deeper than that

Jimmy plus a playable big/big wing? I wouldn't want to play Suns in the playoffs. Beal is an non entity right now(a combination of sulking/injured/completely redundant skill wise with Booker) so you wouldn't be replacing him with Jimmy. You'd be adding Jimmy

[tsherkin]

Eh. Hard to imagine him fixing them being a bottom-6 defense. Hard to imagine him playing 70+ games for the third time in his career. A bit interesting to see if he makes 60+ this season. Wasn't around in the playoffs last year for health reasons. Is worth noting that he'd struggle to find a place, because he doesn't really do SF anymore, and neither does Durant; both spend most of their time at the 4.

Two of JImmy's last 3 postseasons also haven't been total stunners.

"Instant contenders" is probably significant hyperbole.

[Texas Chuck]

Nobody is pretending.

[mastermixer]

First off, Jimmy Butler is a significantly better player than Bradley Beal. Second, he fits so much better alongside KD and Book. With Beal, there was far too much redundancy. Beal was pretty much an 80% replica of Booker. Jimmy is different. He adds a different dynamic. Stylistically he isn't even close to the other two. Sure, he loves the middy, but he knows how to get his in other spaces too. He won't create nearly as much conflict on the offensive end. Defensively is where he truly shines with this team. Never has he played alongside two guys that can carry the scoring load and put him in position to focus mainly on defense. He's always had to do so much on offense, to the point where his defense is compromised. This won't be the issue in Phoenix. He instantly becomes their best perimeter defender, while still being able to give them the 17-19ppg that Beal provided. Him not having to carry such a load offensively, is going to allow him to be fresh and enhance his performance in the playoffs and actually SUSTAIN it for an ENTIRE run. Also, Jimmy is a 'culture' within himself. He'll add that dog/toughness/leadership that this team has always been missing. I know the Big 3 formula may not be successful anymore... but the Suns with Jimmy would surely have the best 3 headed monster in the league. By far.

The crazy thing is even looking at the pic with hindsight I’m like “damn that’s a SQUAD!”

Lol

[Damkac]

Didn't know that Suns owner has an account here.

[floppymoose]

Suns are not contenders with Butler. I hope this trade happens.

[mkot]

Not one Suns fan on RealGM is thrill to add Jimmy. Not one. Not me.

Most of us are in shamble

[jasonxxx102]

Ok let's think honestly, who could the suns legitimately beat in a playoff series?

Thunder - no
Nuggets - probably not
Mavs - healthy no
Rockets - no
Grizzlies - no
Clippers/Wolves/Lakers - maybe

Not even close to a contender

[jasonxxx102]

but the Suns with Jimmy would surely have the best 3 headed monster in the league. By far.

also just lol at this.

[Bank Shot]

He'll sit out half of the remaining regular season games with minor injuries and the Suns will end up in the play-in. I guess he makes them dangerous in the fight to get spanked by the Thunder in R1.

[JustBuzzin]

Butler scorer
KD scorer
Booker scorer


What could go wrong...


That team needs a point guard. Your 3 best players all need the ball. Nobody is facilitating to those guys.

Maybe if they got CP3 in the buyout I can see this working, but they steal have the same issues they have with Beal. Butler is not the right player for the Suns.

[cgf]

With how weak the top of the west is they might win a series if they can avoid OKC.

[ciueli]

The crazy thing is even looking at the pic with hindsight I’m like “damn that’s a SQUAD!”

Lol

It is until you realize KG averaged 6.5 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 1.5 APG with 46.7% True Shooting, playing 54 games and 20.5 MPG his first season with Brooklyn, he was washed already. Pierce was better but had definitely moved into the "solid role player" phase of his career, while Joe Johnson and Deron Williams were past the "best star on a good team" phase of their careers (both fell off hard not long after that season). Lopez was a 1x All-Star in his career (that season), so really not the collection of talent that people thought at the time.

[Bornstellar]

He doesn't though. He doesn't fix their depth. He doesn't fix their lack of any real bigs that can provide a defensive presence. He doesn't fix their lack of PG play. He just adds another old, injury prone dude that needs the ball in his hands to be effective

[Jadoogar]

Butler is honestly not that much better than Beal at this point. I don't think he makes them a contender at all.

[dirkdiggler4177]

Durant and him are just too old at 36 with potential injuries. They are also missing a center and don't have much wing depth. They might have one good playoff run in them, but it won't be this year, and next year both Durant and Jimmy will be 37, and their payroll will be huge with space for free agents.

[SunsLyf3]

First off, Jimmy Butler is a significantly better player than Bradley Beal. Second, he fits so much better alongside KD and Book. With Beal, there was far too much redundancy. Beal was pretty much an 80% replica of Booker. Jimmy is different. He adds a different dynamic. Stylistically he isn't even close to the other two. Sure, he loves the middy, but he knows how to get his in other spaces too. He won't create nearly as much conflict on the offensive end. Defensively is where he truly shines with this team. Never has he played alongside two guys that can carry the scoring load and put him in position to focus mainly on defense. He's always had to do so much on offense, to the point where his defense is compromised. This won't be the issue in Phoenix. He instantly becomes their best perimeter defender, while still being able to give them the 17-19ppg that Beal provided. Him not having to carry such a load offensively, is going to allow him to be fresh and enhance his performance in the playoffs and actually SUSTAIN it for an ENTIRE run. Also, Jimmy is a 'culture' within himself. He'll add that dog/toughness/leadership that this team has always been missing. I know the Big 3 formula may not be successful anymore... but the Suns with Jimmy would surely have the best 3 headed monster in the league. By far.

Not going to say Suns would be favorites but KD alone has more talent than those 5 pictured combined at the respective points in their careers(BK big 5 vs KD current).

[jbsays]

He plays better with a chip on his shoulder as long as he's not sulking. So, I imagine he'll go out this season. He'll take some games off, but less than last couple of years. But, he's also 35, load managed last year, and missed the playoffs. There's a lot that can happen and he's at the age where bad things start happening more frequently.