Now that All-Star voting is over, who do you expect to be the 12 all-stars from each conference?

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Re: Now that All-Star voting is over, who do you expect to be the 12 all-stars from each conference? 

Post#21 » by TheHartBreakKid » Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:45 pm

Also, another extremely flawed part of this stupid format:

One of team Shaq/Kenny/Chuck will be playing the Rising Stars winner, having a clear advantage while the other 2 play eachother.

I know it's just the allstar game, but to me it exemplifies of what's wrong with the NBA right now.
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Re: Now that All-Star voting is over, who do you expect to be the 12 all-stars from each conference? 

Post#22 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:16 am

SA37 wrote:I haven't looked at the voting #s, but:

East

C KAT / Vucevic
F Giannis / F Wagner (Mobley)
F J Tatum / J Brown
G LaMelo Ball / D Mitchell
G J Brunson / Cade Cunningham / D Lillard

West

C Jokic / D Sabonis
F A Davis / JJJ
F L James / K Durant / J Williams
G L Doncic (K Irving) / S Curry
G SGA / A Edwards / N Powell
Franz is going to be back before the All-Star game so Mobley wouldn't be an injury replacement.

I just can't get behind the Cavs only getting 1 All-Star after the phenomenal historic start.
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Post#23 » by Iwasawitness » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:15 am

SA37 wrote:I haven't looked at the voting #s, but:

East

C KAT / Vucevic
F Giannis / F Wagner (Mobley)
F J Tatum / J Brown
G LaMelo Ball / D Mitchell
G J Brunson / Cade Cunningham / D Lillard

West

C Jokic / D Sabonis
F A Davis / JJJ
F L James / K Durant / J Williams
G L Doncic (K Irving) / S Curry
G SGA / A Edwards / N Powell


Vucevic over Allen?
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Who are YOUR staring 5 for east and west ASG? 

Post#24 » by Eightnineborn » Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:30 am

Lets discuss.

Mines are as follows:

East:

Garland
Mitchell
Tatum
Giannis
Towns

West:

Shai
Edwards
LeBron
Wemby
Jokic
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Re: Who are YOUR staring 5 for east and west ASG? 

Post#25 » by Mr Puddles » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:24 am

Bobby Portis is definitely in my staring five
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Re: Who are YOUR staring 5 for east and west ASG? 

Post#26 » by doogie_hauser » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:33 am

Cade Cunningham
Donavan Mitchell
KAT
Jayson Tatum
Giannis

SGA
Curry
Joker
Wemby
Jaren Jackson Jnr

Hoping JJJ at least makes the bench for the West. Having an outstanding season and deserves to make it over Lebum or AD (for example)
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Re: Who are YOUR staring 5 for east and west ASG? 

Post#27 » by _NoMas » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:12 am

KAT
Tatum
Giannis
Brunson
Mitchell


Joker
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KD
Edwards
SGA
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Re: Now that All-Star voting is over, who do you expect to be the 12 all-stars from each conference? 

Post#28 » by SA37 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:28 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Spoiler:
SA37 wrote:I haven't looked at the voting #s, but:

East

C KAT / Vucevic
F Giannis / F Wagner (Mobley)
F J Tatum / J Brown
G LaMelo Ball / D Mitchell
G J Brunson / Cade Cunningham / D Lillard

West

C Jokic / D Sabonis
F A Davis / JJJ
F L James / K Durant / J Williams
G L Doncic (K Irving) / S Curry
G SGA / A Edwards / N Powell
Franz is going to be back before the All-Star game so Mobley wouldn't be an injury replacement.

I just can't get behind the Cavs only getting 1 All-Star after the phenomenal historic start.


I get that argument. At the same time, I also didn't include anyone from Houston in the West, and there is a good argument to put Sengun instead of JJJ, for example, and you'd have no one from Memphis.

I think the Cavs, Memphis, and Houston just happen to be really good teams that simply don't have elite players, with the exception of Morant (missed too many games) and Mitchell, who I included.

Tough choices.
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Post#29 » by Drakeem » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:30 pm

People picking Allen over Garland is wild to me. I don't even think Mitchell has been better than Garland this year.
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Post#30 » by SA37 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:36 pm

Iwasawitness wrote:
SA37 wrote:I haven't looked at the voting #s, but:

East

C KAT / Vucevic
F Giannis / F Wagner (Mobley)
F J Tatum / J Brown
G LaMelo Ball / D Mitchell
G J Brunson / Cade Cunningham / D Lillard

West

C Jokic / D Sabonis
F A Davis / JJJ
F L James / K Durant / J Williams
G L Doncic (K Irving) / S Curry
G SGA / A Edwards / N Powell


Vucevic over Allen?


Yeah, and I think it's a pretty straight forward argument. Allen is the 4th-best player on his team, whereas Vucevic is arguably the best player on his team.

Vuc: 20-10 on 55-41-81 PER 21.8 win shares 5

Allen: 14-10 on 71-0-74 PER 22.8 win shares 6.8

Outside of shooting %, Allen's numbers are down from last season (when he wasn't an all-star) and down from the only season he was an all-star. Vucevic's shooting numbers (both fg%, efg%, and 3pt %) are career highs and his numbers are similar to his 1st all-star appearance.

The only reason Allen would get any consideration would be because of a lack of depth at C in the East and because his team is really good. But Vucevic is a superior player.
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Post#31 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:12 pm

SA37 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Spoiler:
SA37 wrote:I haven't looked at the voting #s, but:

East

C KAT / Vucevic
F Giannis / F Wagner (Mobley)
F J Tatum / J Brown
G LaMelo Ball / D Mitchell
G J Brunson / Cade Cunningham / D Lillard

West

C Jokic / D Sabonis
F A Davis / JJJ
F L James / K Durant / J Williams
G L Doncic (K Irving) / S Curry
G SGA / A Edwards / N Powell
Franz is going to be back before the All-Star game so Mobley wouldn't be an injury replacement.

I just can't get behind the Cavs only getting 1 All-Star after the phenomenal historic start.


I get that argument. At the same time, I also didn't include anyone from Houston in the West, and there is a good argument to put Sengun instead of JJJ, for example, and you'd have no one from Memphis.

I think the Cavs, Memphis, and Houston just happen to be really good teams that simply don't have elite players, with the exception of Morant (missed too many games) and Mitchell, who I included.

Tough choices.
Last season winning was rewarded.

Silver was the one who put in Barnes from a bottom feeder and Trae from a below .500 team as injury replacements.

If Mitchell starts, i see the coaches putting in Mobley as a reserve and one of Garland or Allen in the final wild card spot, as a reserve.
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Post#32 » by Iwasawitness » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:15 pm

SA37 wrote:
Iwasawitness wrote:
SA37 wrote:I haven't looked at the voting #s, but:

East

C KAT / Vucevic
F Giannis / F Wagner (Mobley)
F J Tatum / J Brown
G LaMelo Ball / D Mitchell
G J Brunson / Cade Cunningham / D Lillard

West

C Jokic / D Sabonis
F A Davis / JJJ
F L James / K Durant / J Williams
G L Doncic (K Irving) / S Curry
G SGA / A Edwards / N Powell


Vucevic over Allen?


Yeah, and I think it's a pretty straight forward argument. Allen is the 4th-best player on his team, whereas Vucevic is arguably the best player on his team.

Vuc: 20-10 on 55-41-81 PER 21.8 win shares 5

Allen: 14-10 on 71-0-74 PER 22.8 win shares 6.8

Outside of shooting %, Allen's numbers are down from last season (when he wasn't an all-star) and down from the only season he was an all-star. Vucevic's shooting numbers (both fg%, efg%, and 3pt %) are career highs and his numbers are similar to his 1st all-star appearance.

The only reason Allen would get any consideration would be because of a lack of depth at C in the East and because his team is really good. But Vucevic is a superior player.


Allen is in a completely different league defensively, is a better rebounder and is still arguably a better offensive player. In no way is Vucevic a superior player.
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Re: Now that All-Star voting is over, who do you expect to be the 12 all-stars from each conference? 

Post#33 » by rolling_91 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:30 pm

If Darius Garland doesn’t make the All Star team the whole process is a joke.

You would be making a statement that running and shooting indiscriminately on a 20 win team playing pickup every game is more valuable than leading a 36-6 team at the halfway mark. That’s not even mentioning the clutch numbers or the efficiency or the fact that his team plays basketball the right way. Garland could have obscene numbers if he was given free rein like that.

Garland should be starting the All Star game. I expect the coaches to at least put him in.
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Post#34 » by TroubleS0me » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:54 pm

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Re: Now that All-Star voting is over, who do you expect to be the 12 all-stars from each conference? 

Post#35 » by SA37 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:55 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
SA37 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Spoiler:
Franz is going to be back before the All-Star game so Mobley wouldn't be an injury replacement.

I just can't get behind the Cavs only getting 1 All-Star after the phenomenal historic start.


I get that argument. At the same time, I also didn't include anyone from Houston in the West, and there is a good argument to put Sengun instead of JJJ, for example, and you'd have no one from Memphis.

I think the Cavs, Memphis, and Houston just happen to be really good teams that simply don't have elite players, with the exception of Morant (missed too many games) and Mitchell, who I included.

Tough choices.
Last season winning was rewarded.

Silver was the one who put in Barnes from a bottom feeder and Trae from a below .500 team as injury replacements.

If Mitchell starts, i see the coaches putting in Mobley as a reserve and one of Garland or Allen in the final wild card spot, as a reserve.


Garland and Mobley can get passes given injuries (they'd never have been ahead of Franz, Banchero, or Embiid) + the team success, but as individual players I don't think they've had MVP caliber seasons. Despite an atrocious record, I'd put Maxey in before Garland or Mobley. Similarly, I think Jalen Johnson (19-10-5 on 50 fg%) has a better individual case than Mobley or Allen.

How much winning counts is subjective. I don't think there is a case for 4 All-stars in Cleveland, though. If you put those 4, well, then you have to put White, Brown, and Tatum in. Then you need KAT and Brunson. So you have 3 positions left for the rest of the East.
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Post#36 » by GeorgeSears » Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:10 pm

The East is pretty straightforward. Boston gets 2, Cavs get 3/4. Knicks get 2, Bucks get 2.

Trae Young
Cade Cunningham
Darius Garland
Donovan Mitchell
Jalen Brunson
Damian Lillard
Tyrese Maxey
Jaylen Brown
Jayson Tatum
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Karl-Anthony Towns
Jarrett Allen

The West is tougher to predict. Jokic, Ant, Shai, Steph, LeBron, KD, Kyrie, AD, Wemby are a given - a combination of merit and name recognition. After that though? I'm assuming Kyrie makes it in, but does Luka make it considering his injury? Do both Jaren Jackson Jr. and Ja Morant make it? Does Sengun and Jalen Williams make it?

This tougher to predict.

Nikola Jokic
Anthony Edwards
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Jalen Williams
Stephen Curry
Norman Powell
James Harden
LeBron James
Anthony Davis
Kevin Durant
Devin Booker
De'Aaron Fox
Domantis Sabonis
Luka Doncic
Kyrie Irving
Alperen Sengun
Ja Morant
Jaren Jackson Jr
Victor Wembanyama
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Post#37 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:16 pm

SA37 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
SA37 wrote:
I get that argument. At the same time, I also didn't include anyone from Houston in the West, and there is a good argument to put Sengun instead of JJJ, for example, and you'd have no one from Memphis.

I think the Cavs, Memphis, and Houston just happen to be really good teams that simply don't have elite players, with the exception of Morant (missed too many games) and Mitchell, who I included.

Tough choices.
Last season winning was rewarded.

Silver was the one who put in Barnes from a bottom feeder and Trae from a below .500 team as injury replacements.

If Mitchell starts, i see the coaches putting in Mobley as a reserve and one of Garland or Allen in the final wild card spot, as a reserve.


Garland and Mobley can get passes given injuries (they'd never have been ahead of Franz, Banchero, or Embiid) + the team success, but as individual players I don't think they've had MVP caliber seasons. Despite an atrocious record, I'd put Maxey in before Garland or Mobley. Similarly, I think Jalen Johnson (19-10-5 on 50 fg%) has a better individual case than Mobley or Allen.

How much winning counts is subjective. I don't think there is a case for 4 All-stars in Cleveland, though. If you put those 4, well, then you have to put White, Brown, and Tatum in. Then you need KAT and Brunson. So you have 3 positions left for the rest of the East.

For me personally there's no world where the East coaches should reward Banchero, Franz Wagner, Embiid, Maxey, Vooch, or Ball (if he doesn't start).

Cavs deserve 3 All-Stars but at minimum 2. Getting 4 would be great, teams in the past in their situation have but i don't see it this season.
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Post#38 » by Sane » Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:55 am

Rockets are #2 in the West, #6 in the league. We are top 5 in giving shots to young guys. Our offensive hub is a creative passer and scorer who is hilarious in general. We are athletic as hell, our in-practice dunk competition features:

Jalen Green
Amen Thompson
Cam Whitmore

There's plenty of entertaining stuff to choose from. Jalen Green might have been the team's leader in 10+wins in the West this season, only exceptional players do that. He's the leading scorer on the 2nd best team in the West. Come on now. There's definitely a case to be made there.

I think Sengun and Green gotta make it I think.
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Post#39 » by UcanUwill » Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:03 am

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Ja/Antman need to be In It.

So far I've heard Buzelis from Chicago and Castle from San Antonio

Not gonna lie, Castle seemed out of left field. He's had some nice in game dunks but nothing I've seen so far screams dunk contest participant


I remember when rookie Brandon Jennings supposed to be in NBA dunk contest, and I didn't even know he could dunk (I mean I knew he could of course), since he might have had zero dunks playing for Bucks and Lottomatica at that point, but it was purely driven by the fact he was in highschool dunk contest one time, and of course he simply was the hottest rookie at a time. I don't think it ever got weirder than that, most guys in dunk contest actually dunked in games, and Jennings didn't even end up in dunk contest, so its mute point maybe, but they were pushing for that, and it was just weird.

Sadly all the best dunkers don't want any of this anymore, especially star players. But best in game dunkers don't always make good dunk participants, Shannon Brown probably being all time let down, so it is always a lottery with these selections, just put guys who want to be in there, they at least will try to think of something interesting.
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Post#40 » by UcanUwill » Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:11 am

TheHartBreakKid wrote:Also, another extremely flawed part of this stupid format:

One of team Shaq/Kenny/Chuck will be playing the Rising Stars winner, having a clear advantage while the other 2 play eachother.

I know it's just the allstar game, but to me it exemplifies of what's wrong with the NBA right now.


Knowing how these All stars don't give a ****, I do not think playing rising stars winner is an advantage at all. Rising stars team will try, they seriously could win this whole thing, but I think league intentionally put them there so actual all stars might try a little, doubtful they want to lose to rookie team, its a just a pride thing. But who knows, if they still do not try and rising team actually wins this, this will just blow in NBA's face bigtime. They are counting on the fact actual all stars will show some effort and win...

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