Wolves/Lakers

[jayjaysee]

What about JHS, Wood, and a 2026 pick swap?

1. Wolves owe a 26 swap to Jazz, doesn’t work.

2. JHS has no value for us.

3. I still don’t think DK is enough value for NAW, I almost didn’t post this. I see DK’s upside as a Beasley type Sniper and his downside as out of the league. He is right on that ledge. You want to replace him with even less value and get a starting quality 3 and D?

NA a team can swap a first that is already part of a swap… and Utah isn’t exercising that swap 9 out of 10 times..

And I would make LAL add their second/cash to dump JHS (and probably Wood) on another team and take the swap.

I think Minnesota should do that counter offer though. LBJ can’t keep going at this level (we say this every year I know) Minnesota should be expecting to be back at the top of the standings next year, so the swap should convey a decent jump.

Or Minnesota can trade it as a swap and it’ll have even more value because a team gets to bet on two teams failing..

[Andre Roberstan]

LeBron wants upgrades, Kneckt is not in NAWs league right now. Wolves save money next year and try to develop Kneckt, Lakers get that upgrade now.

Does NAW make the difference between winning or losing a playoff series over Knecht with the Lakers as currently constructed? I don't think so.

That's what the other posters are referring to. It's an on-the-court upgrade, but a marginal one. Better to take a bigger swing even if there's higher risk, because this isn't going to do it.

This is a good argument against. My counter is LAL needs shooting and defense more than a big swing like Zach who only gives shooting. Also this doesn’t preclude a big swing. That said, if the Lakers need DK to make a big swing without giving up other assets that also makes sense.

I think it does preclude a big swing. The Lakers have basically no assets. The ones they have they need to hold onto for a more impactful trade, and a cost-controlled rookie who can shoot (even if he's not a good defender right now) is worth it for them.

Also re: Chuck's point, value doesn't exist in a vacuum. Knecht is more valuable to the Lakers than he would be in trade because of his contract, their cap situation and their lack of assets. He's an asset, even if a flawed one. Trading an asset for one more player they have to pay (a player whose skillset is at least somewhat replicated elsewhere on their roster) should be a non-starter for them.

NAW being on an expiring and having to be paid matters here too. LAL are not going to want to trade for a guy that's about to get paid when they're already pretty much guaranteed to be a first apron team.

Look, I like NAW. I think he's good. In another situation the Lakers should want him. But for the reasons outlined above I think this trade is a nonstarter.

[dcstanley]

What about JHS, Wood, and a 2026 pick swap?

1. Wolves owe a 26 swap to Jazz, doesn’t work.

2. JHS has no value for us.

3. I still don’t think DK is enough value for NAW, I almost didn’t post this. I see DK’s upside as a Beasley type Sniper and his downside as out of the league. He is right on that ledge. You want to replace him with even less value and get a starting quality 3 and D?

NA a team can swap a first that is already part of a swap… and Utah isn’t exercising that swap 9 out of 10 times..

And I would make LAL add their second/cash to dump JHS (and probably Wood) on another team and take the swap.

I think Minnesota should do that counter offer though. LBJ can’t keep going at this level (we say this every year I know) Minnesota should be expecting to be back at the top of the standings next year, so the swap should convey a decent jump.

Or Minnesota can trade it as a swap and it’ll have even more value because a team gets to bet on two teams failing..

LAL could offer a 2028 swap instead, Min might prefer that anyways. So what about JHS/Wood/2028 swap/2025 2nd

A third team takes on JHS for the 2nd. MIN gets Wood and the swap.

[jayjaysee]

1. Wolves owe a 26 swap to Jazz, doesn’t work.

2. JHS has no value for us.

3. I still don’t think DK is enough value for NAW, I almost didn’t post this. I see DK’s upside as a Beasley type Sniper and his downside as out of the league. He is right on that ledge. You want to replace him with even less value and get a starting quality 3 and D?

NA a team can swap a first that is already part of a swap… and Utah isn’t exercising that swap 9 out of 10 times..

And I would make LAL add their second/cash to dump JHS (and probably Wood) on another team and take the swap.

I think Minnesota should do that counter offer though. LBJ can’t keep going at this level (we say this every year I know) Minnesota should be expecting to be back at the top of the standings next year, so the swap should convey a decent jump.

Or Minnesota can trade it as a swap and it’ll have even more value because a team gets to bet on two teams failing..

LAL could offer a 2028 swap instead, Min might prefer that anyways. So what about JHS/Wood/2028 swap/2025 2nd

A third team takes on JHS for the 2nd. MIN gets Wood and the swap.

I think Minn takes your offer not the 2028 swap. But the 2028 swap is better value for sure. Just Minnesota shouldn’t want the delayed asset.

A third team definitely would.

[Dr Aki]

No to giving up Knecht

Without moving Vincent or Christie, this just creates an expensive logjam

[Karmaloop]

What part of short term for long term don’t you get? I already stated that DK’s value is his cheap contract and potential to develop into the sniper role. This is a money saving move for the Wolves, and a talent upgrade for the Lakers. What makes for bad threads is you coming in and trying to make arguments out of both sides of your mouth. On the one hand you say Terrance Shannon lost value since the draft because players have less value than picks, but above you argue DK is worth a first even when he is struggling. Make up your mind Texas!

What team in their right mind is giving up a FRP with any real upside for NAW? He was a throw-in as apart of the Westbrook deal, and he managed to carve out a role. It's the same asinine argument that we had that DFS was going to fetch a FRP. He fetched multiple SRPs.

[zimpy27]

I do like NAW, I think the fit on the Lakers is there. Lakers probably get an SRP as NAW is soon expiring.

Also I think you need a 3rd team for this trade.

[Godaddycurse]

I do like NAW, I think the fit on the Lakers is there. Lakers probably get an SRP as NAW is soon expiring.

Also I think you need a 3rd team for this trade.

Eh many teams would out bid lakers and their remaining 2nds. Probably need to offer a swap