Scoot Henderson

[JMAC3]

Stop victimizing yourself like a loser.

What you don't seem to understand is that it's only a few of you guys who feel the need to victory lap so early in a guy's career. The rest of us are just giving them time to actually develop into what they're going to be. I really urge you to think hard about how you go about doing this. People keep having to explain to you over and over again the errors in your ways. Why not just listen?

What I don't understand? okay man.

You and Clyde both showing trying flex nuts when Scoot starts playing well. Coincidence?

Neither could be found while he was struggling. At least I am here when he plays well, not hiding waiting for the perfect moment to try and show up like you bums.

Clyde did the same thing in the Anthony Black thread. Tried to talk smack about he was better than Amen. Amen starts playing wayyyyyyyyy better than him. Then he disappears. Predictable.

It is funny how when you guys do it isn't victory lapping. ZERO percent surprised you both showed up this week. Front Runners lol

[JMAC3]

Finishing Numbers
0-3 feet
50.3%
Ranked 235th out of 240 players according to basketball ref

0-5 feet
45.1%
Ranked 383rd among 389 players according to Dunks and 3s EPM metrics

Basically, the same player as last year, statistically he is almost identical across the board through 9 games.

Shooting 50% inside of 3 feet again, so doesn't look like his finishing has improved at all.

Notice how JMAC posted this in November 9 games into the season. Where are his updates on Scoot since then?

JMAC, woudl you care to update these stats? I'm curious why you yourself have been absent for months. You seemed so eager to victory lap when Scoot was playing like utter ****. Well I'll save you the trouble. Since you posted this stat in November 9 games into the season and declared FINAL VICTORY...Scoot is shooting 55% on fga 0-3 ft. That means in the last 20 games or so it's well above that figure. Where were your updates??? Hmmm...

LOL like I didn't post stats today, yawn.

32nd in EPM among his rookie class for the year. Do you want me to congratulate him on being well below average this year? 20% Overall EPM player, that is terrible.

Here is finishing update, you are begging for.

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm/actual
Shooting 52.3% inside of 5 ft, 8th percentile in the league. That is terrible still lol
Ranks 283 out 308 players.

Shooting 55.6% from inside 3 feet.
241/259 players.

You are legit trying to flex that? LOLOLOL

[clyde21]

I can still make fun of you for choosing to come make a big scene as soon as he plays somewhat decent. Idk how that is any different than people posting how bad he has been, but for some reason you choose to see this is something totally different.

Stop victimizing yourself like a loser. Of course people are gonna come after you after Scoot plays well, because you've made it point to bump this thread every time he doesn't

btw, Scoot's shooting better than Miller on the season

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Look who made an appearance as well as he has avoided this thread for 14 months. Bumbass lol

[EvanZ]

Basically, the same player as last year, statistically he is almost identical across the board through 9 games.

Shooting 50% inside of 3 feet again, so doesn't look like his finishing has improved at all.

Notice how JMAC posted this in November 9 games into the season. Where are his updates on Scoot since then?

JMAC, woudl you care to update these stats? I'm curious why you yourself have been absent for months. You seemed so eager to victory lap when Scoot was playing like utter ****. Well I'll save you the trouble. Since you posted this stat in November 9 games into the season and declared FINAL VICTORY...Scoot is shooting 55% on fga 0-3 ft. That means in the last 20 games or so it's well above that figure. Where were your updates??? Hmmm...

LOL like I didn't post stats today, yawn.

32nd in EPM among his rookie class for the year. Do you want me to congratulate him on being well below average this year? 20% Overall EPM player, that is terrible.

Here is finishing update, you are begging for.

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm/actual
Shooting 52.3% inside of 5 ft, 8th percentile in the league. That is terrible still lol
Ranks 283 out 308 players.

Shooting 55.6% from inside 3 feet.
241/259 players.

You are legit trying to flex that? LOLOLOL

The average layup percentage is around 60% historically. It's not really a far jump for him to get to that percentage. The vast majority of his attempts around the rim are unassisted. A much better and more complete analysis would correct for factors like this. But of course you're probably not interested in doing a fair look like that.

I mean just glancing at that website shows Steph Curry at 58.9% near the rim which is apparently the 27th percentile. I guess he sucks too. Donovan Mitchell at 55.6%...Ant 57%

[JMAC3]

Notice how JMAC posted this in November 9 games into the season. Where are his updates on Scoot since then?

JMAC, woudl you care to update these stats? I'm curious why you yourself have been absent for months. You seemed so eager to victory lap when Scoot was playing like utter ****. Well I'll save you the trouble. Since you posted this stat in November 9 games into the season and declared FINAL VICTORY...Scoot is shooting 55% on fga 0-3 ft. That means in the last 20 games or so it's well above that figure. Where were your updates??? Hmmm...

LOL like I didn't post stats today, yawn.

32nd in EPM among his rookie class for the year. Do you want me to congratulate him on being well below average this year? 20% Overall EPM player, that is terrible.

Here is finishing update, you are begging for.

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm/actual
Shooting 52.3% inside of 5 ft, 8th percentile in the league. That is terrible still lol
Ranks 283 out 308 players.

Shooting 55.6% from inside 3 feet.
241/259 players.

You are legit trying to flex that? LOLOLOL

The average layup percentage is around 60% historically. It's not really a far jump for him to get to that percentage. The vast majority of his attempts around the rim are unassisted. A much better and more complete analysis would correct for factors like this. But of course you're probably not interested in doing a fair look like that.

I mean just glancing at that website shows Steph Curry at 58.9% near the rim which is apparently the 27th percentile. I guess he sucks too. Donovan Mitchell at 55.6%...

Saying there is a more complete analysis that can be done, but then you giving no effort to actually do it. Then saying I would have no interest in it is comedy gold. LOL, please do it if you want it done. I am not going to do all the work for you.

Please step away from the keyboard, you are terrible at this.
I know you really want to strawman this, but even these examples are too bad for that

Steph 99/37/98 overall epm
Dmitch 95/78/97 overall epm
Scoot 46/3/20 overall epm

Yes, Scoot is practically as good keep up the great work lol

[Big J]

I had Scoot 5 in my big board, so him doing well actually looks good on me considering I had Wemby, Miller & the Twins ahead of him.

LMAOOOOOOOO Big J king of having it both ways. From "He's a bust" within a few weeks of his rookie season to "I had him top 5"

Can't make this stuff up folks.

Right right right, and pre draft I was berated for having him at 5 because according to Scoot fanboys told me I either needed to have him at #2 or think he was going to be a bust. Nah, my whole thing was that he was being overrated.

[EvanZ]

LOL like I didn't post stats today, yawn.

32nd in EPM among his rookie class for the year. Do you want me to congratulate him on being well below average this year? 20% Overall EPM player, that is terrible.

Here is finishing update, you are begging for.

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm/actual
Shooting 52.3% inside of 5 ft, 8th percentile in the league. That is terrible still lol
Ranks 283 out 308 players.

Shooting 55.6% from inside 3 feet.
241/259 players.

You are legit trying to flex that? LOLOLOL

The average layup percentage is around 60% historically. It's not really a far jump for him to get to that percentage. The vast majority of his attempts around the rim are unassisted. A much better and more complete analysis would correct for factors like this. But of course you're probably not interested in doing a fair look like that.

I mean just glancing at that website shows Steph Curry at 58.9% near the rim which is apparently the 27th percentile. I guess he sucks too. Donovan Mitchell at 55.6%...

Saying there is a more complete analysis that can be done, but then you giving no effort to actually do it. Then saying I would have no interest in it is comedy gold. LOL, please do it if you want it done. I am not going to do all the work for you.

Please step away from the keyboard, you are terrible at this.
I know you really want to strawman this, but even these examples are too bad for that

Steph 99/37/98 overall epm
Dmitch 95/78/97 overall epm
Scoot 46/3/20 overall epm

Yes, Scoot is practically as good keep up the great work lol

You literally didn't address my point. Good job.

[EvanZ]

I had Scoot 5 in my big board, so him doing well actually looks good on me considering I had Wemby, Miller & the Twins ahead of him.

LMAOOOOOOOO Big J king of having it both ways. From "He's a bust" within a few weeks of his rookie season to "I had him top 5"

Can't make this stuff up folks.

Right right right, and pre draft I was berated for having him at 5 because according to Scoot fanboys told me I either needed to have him at #2 or think he was going to be a bust. Nah, my whole thing was that he was being overrated.

So you were right before you were wrong before you were right again. Got it.

[EvanZ]

JMAC cherry picks stats and Big J cherry picks what day of the week it is to tout his Scoot ranking. What a pair of geniuses.

[JMAC3]

The average layup percentage is around 60% historically. It's not really a far jump for him to get to that percentage. The vast majority of his attempts around the rim are unassisted. A much better and more complete analysis would correct for factors like this. But of course you're probably not interested in doing a fair look like that.

I mean just glancing at that website shows Steph Curry at 58.9% near the rim which is apparently the 27th percentile. I guess he sucks too. Donovan Mitchell at 55.6%...

Saying there is a more complete analysis that can be done, but then you giving no effort to actually do it. Then saying I would have no interest in it is comedy gold. LOL, please do it if you want it done. I am not going to do all the work for you.

Please step away from the keyboard, you are terrible at this.
I know you really want to strawman this, but even these examples are too bad for that

Steph 99/37/98 overall epm
Dmitch 95/78/97 overall epm
Scoot 46/3/20 overall epm

Yes, Scoot is practically as good keep up the great work lol

You literally didn't address my point. Good job.

Which is what? You are really hard to follow when you are jumping from one weak argument to the other.

[JMAC3]

JMAC cherry picks stats and Big J cherry picks what day of the week it is to tout his Scoot ranking. What a pair of geniuses.

Do you know what Cherry pick means? Let me help you out with it.
Selecting the best or most desirable items.

So how exactly is me looking at season long stats cherry picking? Me looking at all in 1 stats is cherry picking?

Meanwhile you are the one cherry picking, trying to say look at games after Nov. 9th. or trying to cherry pick one player like Steph or Dmitch to compare Scoot to in 1 cherry picked stat to prove a point... When if you have half a brain cell they are nothing a like.

You can't make up how all over the place your arguments are.

[EvanZ]

JMAC cherry picks stats and Big J cherry picks what day of the week it is to tout his Scoot ranking. What a pair of geniuses.

Do you know what Cherry pick means? Let me help you out with it.
Selecting the best or most desirable items.

So how exactly is me looking at season long stats cherry picking? Me looking at all in 1 stats is cherry picking?

Meanwhile you are the one cherry picking, trying to say look at games after Nov. 9th. or trying to cherry pick one player like Steph or Dmitch to compare Scoot to in 1 cherry picked stat to prove a point... When if you have half a brain cell they are nothing a like.

You can't make up how all over the place your arguments are.

I'm literally quoting your post from November and putting it in context. You didn't refute my point so I guess I won that argument.

[JMAC3]

JMAC cherry picks stats and Big J cherry picks what day of the week it is to tout his Scoot ranking. What a pair of geniuses.

Do you know what Cherry pick means? Let me help you out with it.
Selecting the best or most desirable items.

So how exactly is me looking at season long stats cherry picking? Me looking at all in 1 stats is cherry picking?

Meanwhile you are the one cherry picking, trying to say look at games after Nov. 9th. or trying to cherry pick one player like Steph or Dmitch to compare Scoot to in 1 cherry picked stat to prove a point... When if you have half a brain cell they are nothing a like.

You can't make up how all over the place your arguments are.

I'm literally quoting your post from November and putting it in context. You didn't refute my point so I guess I won that argument.

Quoted me, just to completely ignore the Cherry pick convo we are having, onto something else.

Here we go again, you were proven wrong again so now pivot to some other random topic.
Just like you did when I provided an updated finishing percentage you begged for.

[EvanZ]

It's funny. I don't know how old JMAC is but I suspect he's young and doesn't remember the careers of guys like Mike Conley or John Wall and even Kyrie Irving who folks wrote off in their first few years only to seem them become great point guards. I don't know if Scoot becomes that guy but to write him off like JMAC and Big J did after a few weeks into his rookie season...just comical.

[JMAC3]

It's funny. I don't know how old JMAC is but I suspect he's young and doesn't remember the careers of guys like Mike Conley or John Wall and even Kyrie Irving who folks wrote off in their first few years only to seem them become great point guards. I don't know if Scoot becomes that guy but to write him off like JMAC and Big J did after a few weeks into his rookie season...just comical.

You want to become linkedin friends? lol

But here you go, no need to reminisce about how Scoot compares. I have the numbers for you right now.

Rookie John Wall
50% Off EPM
42% Def EPM
47% Overall EPM

Rookie Kyrie Irving
96% Off EPM
12% Def EPM
84% Overall EPM

Rookie Mike Conley
60% Off EPM
2% Def EPM
38% Overall EPM

Rookie Scoot Henderson
16% Off EPM
1% Def EPM
3% Overall EPM

You want to pivot the convo again, since once again this was a terrible direction for you to take the convo.
but yes, keep telling me how funny it is.

[EvanZ]

It's funny. I don't know how old JMAC is but I suspect he's young and doesn't remember the careers of guys like Mike Conley or John Wall and even Kyrie Irving who folks wrote off in their first few years only to seem them become great point guards. I don't know if Scoot becomes that guy but to write him off like JMAC and Big J did after a few weeks into his rookie season...just comical.

You want to become linkedin friends? lol

But here you go, no need to reminisce about how Scoot compares. I have the numbers for you right now.

Rookie John Wall
50% Off EPM
42% Def EPM
47% Overall EPM

Rookie Kyrie Irving
96% Off EPM
12% Def EPM
84% Overall EPM

Rookie Mike Conley
60% Off EPM
2% Def EPM
38% Overall EPM

Rookie Scoot Henderson
16% Off EPM
1% Def EPM
3% Overall EPM

You want to pivot the convo again, since once again this was a terrible direction for you to take the convo.
but yes, keep telling me how funny it is.

Did you watch any of these guys as rookies? Do you remember the conversation around them? Just curious. Are you in your 20s still?

[JMAC3]

It's funny. I don't know how old JMAC is but I suspect he's young and doesn't remember the careers of guys like Mike Conley or John Wall and even Kyrie Irving who folks wrote off in their first few years only to seem them become great point guards. I don't know if Scoot becomes that guy but to write him off like JMAC and Big J did after a few weeks into his rookie season...just comical.

You want to become linkedin friends? lol

But here you go, no need to reminisce about how Scoot compares. I have the numbers for you right now.

Rookie John Wall
50% Off EPM
42% Def EPM
47% Overall EPM

Rookie Kyrie Irving
96% Off EPM
12% Def EPM
84% Overall EPM

Rookie Mike Conley
60% Off EPM
2% Def EPM
38% Overall EPM

Rookie Scoot Henderson
16% Off EPM
1% Def EPM
3% Overall EPM

You want to pivot the convo again, since once again this was a terrible direction for you to take the convo.
but yes, keep telling me how funny it is.

Did you watch any of these guys as rookies? Do you remember the conversation around them? Just curious. Are you in your 20s still?

haha yes, lets talk about your memory of the conversations. We can ignore the numbers....
I am sure you remember Kyrie being terrible, just disregard he was already a top 100 player in the league as a rookie by EPM.

I mean c'mon man.

[Braggins]

Watch on YouTube

[Slim Charless]

I think that most teams would have taken Miller number 2. Scoot clearly being above Miller was just a fan thing

That's not true at all.

Definitely the sports media as well. I remember Bill Simmons and everyone at the Ringer were all about Scoot. ESPN wasn't far behind and I'm pretty sure tankathon had him over Miller as well. Hardly just fans.

In his defense, pdx has a ton of guards so Scoot hasn't really gotten the chance to claim the team as his own. Still, he should be better. Maybe he sees the light now. Finally.

It's literally been less than 1 1/2 seasons.

Still. He was awful these past 1 1/2 seasons.

Some growth is needed, which to his credit he's shown.

[Slim Charless]

I am down on Scoot more than most Blazer fans.

I still hate the pick but there has been some improvement.

A Scoot/Simons back court should in theory mesh really well. Especially if Scoot decides to tap into his considerable athleticism and play elite defense. Simons shooting can balance Scoot's lack of it and Scoot's abilities should get Simons wide open shots.

Theoretically.