Lakers-Jazz

[zimpy27]

Lakers get Kessler, Sexton

Jazz get Rui, Vincent, LAL27FRP(1-4 protection removed), LAL29FRP(unprotected)


Lakers now look like Reaves, Christie, LeBron, Davis, Kessler -- Sexton, Knecht, DFS, Vando, Wood
Lakers are also now slightly over the 1st apron, they can send JHS+SRP in to space to be buyout players.

Jazz now have 2 unprotected Lakers FRPs.

[Texas Chuck]

Pretty sure we've done this deal before. Still makes a lot of sense for both.

[zimpy27]

Pretty sure we've done this deal before. Still makes a lot of sense for both.

Yeah we have I think but i searched for it and I couldn't find a thread on it, I think posts suggested it but not much discussion on the pick compensation. Also DLo was part of previous trades but I think this makes even more sense in the context of the DFS trade.

[SkyHook]

I'm still in the "Do not trade Kessler" camp. He is—not he projects to be, but he is right now—an elite defender (at the rim and in space), rim finisher, rebounder (both ends). The best that a rebuilding team can do is to identify the keepers and hang on to them.

That being said, though I don't like this direction for the Jazz, the value is about right.

[AingesBurner]

I’d pass as it will take a decent overpay to get Utah to do this.

[AingesBurner]

The deal I would consider:

Players involved.

Picks: 27 unprotected, 30 unprotected, and 29 unprotected swap.

[jazzfan1971]

I think the Jazz would get more. Would this work with Clarkson instead of Sexton?

[nzahir]

I think the Jazz would get more. Would this work with Clarkson instead of Sexton?

I feel like Utah would want the 29 1st and unprotecting 27 at a minimum for Kessler....and I would do it IF we have another move line up for a #3 ball handler

I dont care much for Clarkson honestly, but if we dont have another move lined up, sure b/c we still have Rui

Reaves, Christie, Rui/DFS, Bron, AD
Clarkson, Knecht, Vando, Rui/DFS, Kessler

I would prefer Sexton ofc and move Rui. Maybe a 3rd team values him and adds something and we give some 2nds and or a very lightly protected swap in 28?

Or can also swing for Poole or CJM with Rui's salary

You guys dont care for Knecht right?

[zimpy27]

I think the Jazz would get more. Would this work with Clarkson instead of Sexton?

I don't think Lakers unprotect the 2029 for Clarkson+Kessler but it would go to top 4 protected and maybe Lakers give an SRP. Or it is unprotected and Jazz give some SRPs?

I think Jazz and Lakers hold up is on unprotecting the 2029. I think getting Sexton and Jazz taking Vincent deal makes that happen.

[Daddy 801]

Deal has been discussed before. LA and Utah are perfect trade partners in theory.

One unprotected pick and removing protections on a pick where the protections are highly unlikely to matter is not enough for Kessler let alone Kessler and Sexton.

LA can have Sexton and Collins for the pick protections removed and the 31st pick. Through in Eubanks as well if you want.

LA can have Sexton or Collins for the protections removed and some second round draft picks.

Highly, highly doubt LA can get Kessler with the assets they have. Doesn’t mean you have to agree or like my opinion of Kesslers value. It just what I think is the reality of the situation. Besides knowing Utahs timeline, preferences, situation, etc it’s also based on what Utah was rumored to be asking for Kessler this offseason.They wanted two draft picks PRIOR to the season starting and Kessler has continued to get better and better with every week. One pick and protections removed just isn’t enough.

[mg]

It will likely be Knecht, protection removed from '27 and one unprotected pick in '29.

[babyjax13]

It is reasonable and I gi back and forth on whether I'd do it. If it were possible just to trade Sexton to remove protections, I'd probably do just that piece.

[babyjax13]

It will likely be Knecht, protection removed from '27 and one unprotected pick in '29.

I can't imagine we'd want Knecht at all.

[zimpy27]

It is reasonable and I gi back and forth on whether I'd do it. If it were possible just to trade Sexton to remove protections, I'd probably do just that piece.

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[babyjax13]

It is reasonable and I gi back and forth on whether I'd do it. If it were possible just to trade Sexton to remove protections, I'd probably do just that piece.

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Yah, I don't believe that. We have the same player but younger in Sensabaugh.

[SkyHook]

It is reasonable and I gi back and forth on whether I'd do it. If it were possible just to trade Sexton to remove protections, I'd probably do just that piece.

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Yah, I don't believe that. We have the same player but younger in Sensabaugh.

David Locke shot down any Jazz interest in Knecht last week. I'll take his perspective over Sidery's any day.

[scoobs07]

Jazz could always include one of their many first (one that they project to be a low first), just to kind of appease the Lakers and close a deal. This kind of makes it more palatable for the Lakers to remove the protection on the picks.

[R-DAWG]

Kessler with Sexton/Clarkson for every unprotected draft asset the Lakers have is the new version of Hield/Turner for the same package.

This Lakers front office has shown that they place a very high value on those future draft picks. They aren’t going to throw picks out unless they feel it will make them a true contender. And I don’t know if there is a move out there besides getting a third star they can do that. I don’t think Kessler and Sexton move the needle in that regard. And frankly, I’m not sure if Sexton is an upgrade over Rui.

Throwing out another idea here:
Utah can send the Lakers the lessor of their 2025 1sts and make the 2027 a swap (either with or without protections depending in the deal). LA then sends Utah their 2026 1st unprotected. A swap for Utah makes more sense in 2027 when they control the better of MIN/CLE picks and we can say the odds are that pick will be less valuable than the Lakers pick.

Utah gets 2 high upside Lakers draft assets, but on a short timeline. LA takes short term draft equity risk to improve the roster, but keeps their long term draft capital.

Does this mean Kenecht plus this draft package for Kessler? Including a Rui/Sexton swap? Can you make it a 4 for 2 with LA sending out Vincent/Hood-Schifino/Wood along with Kenecht for Sexton/Kessler. I think if I’m the Lakers I’m ok giving both 26 and 27 unprotected in that last package. And if your Utah, you get 2 shots at the pick turning into gold (yes, it’s a 2 year bet on LeBron retiring and/or regressing)

[SkyHook]

Kessler with Sexton/Clarkson for every unprotected draft asset the Lakers have is the new version of Hield/Turner for the same package.

This Lakers front office has shown that they place a very high value on those future draft picks. They aren’t going to throw picks out unless they feel it will make them a true contender. And I don’t know if there is a move out there besides getting a third star they can do that. I don’t think Kessler and Sexton move the needle in that regard. And frankly, I’m not sure if Sexton is an upgrade over Rui.

Throwing out another idea here:
Utah can send the Lakers the lessor of their 2025 1sts and make the 2027 a swap (either with or without protections depending in the deal). LA then sends Utah their 2026 1st unprotected. A swap for Utah makes more sense in 2027 when they control the better of MIN/CLE picks and we can say the odds are that pick will be less valuable than the Lakers pick.

Utah gets 2 high upside Lakers draft assets, but on a short timeline. LA takes short term draft equity risk to improve the roster, but keeps their long term draft capital.

Does this mean Kenecht plus this draft package for Kessler? Including a Rui/Sexton swap? Can you make it a 4 for 2 with LA sending out Vincent/Hood-Schifino/Wood along with Kenecht for Sexton/Kessler. I think if I’m the Lakers I’m ok giving both 26 and 27 unprotected in that last package. And if your Utah, you get 2 shots at the pick turning into gold (yes, it’s a 2 year bet on LeBron retiring and/or regressing)

A novel proposal. It's interesting.

[R-DAWG]

Kessler with Sexton/Clarkson for every unprotected draft asset the Lakers have is the new version of Hield/Turner for the same package.

This Lakers front office has shown that they place a very high value on those future draft picks. They aren’t going to throw picks out unless they feel it will make them a true contender. And I don’t know if there is a move out there besides getting a third star they can do that. I don’t think Kessler and Sexton move the needle in that regard. And frankly, I’m not sure if Sexton is an upgrade over Rui.

Throwing out another idea here:
Utah can send the Lakers the lessor of their 2025 1sts and make the 2027 a swap (either with or without protections depending in the deal). LA then sends Utah their 2026 1st unprotected. A swap for Utah makes more sense in 2027 when they control the better of MIN/CLE picks and we can say the odds are that pick will be less valuable than the Lakers pick.

Utah gets 2 high upside Lakers draft assets, but on a short timeline. LA takes short term draft equity risk to improve the roster, but keeps their long term draft capital.

Does this mean Kenecht plus this draft package for Kessler? Including a Rui/Sexton swap? Can you make it a 4 for 2 with LA sending out Vincent/Hood-Schifino/Wood along with Kenecht for Sexton/Kessler. I think if I’m the Lakers I’m ok giving both 26 and 27 unprotected in that last package. And if your Utah, you get 2 shots at the pick turning into gold (yes, it’s a 2 year bet on LeBron retiring and/or regressing)

A novel proposal. It's interesting.

Look, it’s not as exciting for Utah as removing protections from 27 and getting 29 unprotected without adding an additional pick, but I think there is real value in controlling the Lakers draft in 2026 and 2027. The odds are higher that both picks fall in the top-10 then both picks falling in the bottom 10.

And if you’re looking for a high upside asset for Kessler, this might be your best shot. It’s hard to find a team with a starting center need and better assets to offer.