Extending Thomas NOW: how much?

[Decipher]

Cam’s getting paid by someone

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[Paradise]

Cam’s getting paid by someone

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Yeah, Sean Marks. He’s not going anywhere and we will pay him at market value. Better now than later.

$180M + incentives bonuses.

[ecuhus1981]

Cam is better than Green

Are you comfortable with Thomas making more than Jalen then? Say 4yrs, $150mil, an average annual value of $37.5mil? That's a shade below the max.

[Decipher]

Cam is better than Green

Are you comfortable with Thomas making more than Jalen then? Say 4yrs, $150mil, an average annual value of $37.5mil? That's a shade below the max.

Nope

[vincecarter4pres]

Sometimes it’s just luck of the draw

Cunningham signed an extension for 5/224

I’m not sure whether he’s better than Cam and he wasn’t in the same stratosphere as Simmons as a rookie

It’s Cunningham and it isn’t close to me, and his ceiling is a lot higher than Cam’s.

[Decipher]

Sometimes it’s just luck of the draw

Cunningham signed an extension for 5/224

I’m not sure whether he’s better than Cam and he wasn’t in the same stratosphere as Simmons as a rookie

It’s Cunningham and it isn’t close to me, and his ceiling is a lot higher than Cam’s.

Is Maxey’s ceiling a lot higher?

Maybe a little but he signed for 5/204 and neither should be a team’s best player

[Keith Van Horn]

I'm still not sure what to think of him. and having watched so much basketball and this team for so long, I don't know if that's a good sign.

I can say the guy gives his hardest effort and cares a ton about the team and winning. There's no dogging it with him. He could be a much better defender and passer, but a few games into the season here it seems like he's taken steps in the right direction.

Let's see what the front office does now. Not surprised they didn't extend him, but it doesn't mean he's a goner after this year.

[76ciology]

I like how the new coach is running the team. Instead of just dumping the ball to Cam, he would be working to get everyone involved, often drawing the defense’s focus and the opponent’s best defender to Cam. When plays break down or in the fourth quarter, the nets would then let Cam take over, similar to how the Heat rely on Jimmy as their go to guy in crunch time.

[76ciology]

Cam is like DeMar with a 3 point shot. He’s not Luka or Harden, where you can just hand him the ball and run the offense through him. You need to create opportunities for the team to generate less pressured looks, usually by running a 1-5 offense. Then Cam can handle those tougher, high-pressure shots when they come.

[ecuhus1981]

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How does everyone feel about Cam Thomas now?

He has upped his scoring output and efficiency, as well as a slight improvement to his assist rate. But he's still a cone defensively. Cam might get an extension with an average annual value around $35mil from us, but no one else had the capspace or the appetite to give him anywhere near as much.

The presence of Russell further complicates our future in the backcourt. Unlike Schröder, I can see D'Angelo being here for multiple years going forward, and I don't see him and Thomas together being a good fit.

So, how would you proceed if you were Sean Marks? Agree early this summer on a big extension for CT, to stamp him as the team leader? Or play hardball on the price for cap flexibility?

[vincecarter4pres]

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How does everyone feel about Cam Thomas now?

He has upped his scoring output and efficiency, as well as a slight improvement to his assist rate. But he's still a cone defensively. Cam might get an extension with an average annual value around $35mil from us, but no one else had the capspace or the appetite to give him anywhere near as much.

The presence of Russell further complicates our future in the backcourt. Unlike Schröder, I can see D'Angelo being here for multiple years going forward, and I don't see him and Thomas together being a good fit.

So, how would you proceed if you were Sean Marks? Agree early this summer on a big extension for CT, to stamp him as the team leader? Or play hardball on the price for cap flexibility?

DLo shouldn’t have any bearing on a player like Cam and not sold DLo is a long term piece here at all.

The injury really clouds things for Marks and Cam, because there probably would have been a robust market for him at the deadline just like I mentioned earlier ITT, where a strong playoff team with a dearth of picks and young rookie scale assets would have made a play for him to solidify their roster for this season and years going forward.

But now maybe they temper things because they didn’t get an extended look as to whether he truly did improve his overall game and more importantly, his team play(ability to blend without losing impact).

[TheNetsFan]

He's going to have a very limited market. I wouldn't be shocked to see an Okoro-like situation, where he has to decide between a modestly priced long-term deal or taking the qualifying offer.

[Decipher]

He's going to have a very limited market. I wouldn't be shocked to see an Okoro-like situation, where he has to decide between a modestly priced long-term deal or taking the qualifying offer.

It’s a tough one because he’s actually performing a lot better than some other guys on big contracts

On the other hand, some of those teams should be regretting those contracts and others won’t be keen to repeat their mistakes

[Papi_swav]

Where is cam now? He came back and played like one game and I haven't seen him since. But he's definitely got better and heading towrds the right direction. But no way am I giving him 35M per year that's out of the question, i don't see any team giving him nowhere near that. I'd say 25M per year moreless, final offer.

[JKiddy]

I think you give him 4/$132M which is 4/100 with $32M in bonuses. $5M for All-Star teams (worth a possible $20M), $1M for 65+ games played (worth a possible $4M), $1M for every year the Nets make the playoffs and he plays over 65 games (possible $4M), and $1M for getting to the NBA Finals (possible $4M).

[ecuhus1981]

I think you give him 4/$132M which is 4/100 with $32M in bonuses. $5M for All-Star teams (worth a possible $20M), $1M for 65+ games played (worth a possible $4M), $1M for every year the Nets make the playoffs and he plays over 65 games (possible $4M), and $1M for getting to the NBA Finals (possible $4M).

I like the idea of a non guaranteed, team friendly contract with performance incentives.

For the record, I do not think you can lean as much into "unlikely" bonuses like making an All-Star appearance. I believe there is a cap for the percentage of a contract that can go to unlikely bonuses, like 5%.

[ecuhus1981]

Now that the Wizards, Pelicans and Spurs are out of the capspace game for summer 2025 after their trade deadline acquisitions, Brooklyn is really in the driver's seat of free agency.

We should have more than $75mil to spend under the salary cap, including the caphold for our 4 1st round draft picks. That does not include the Qualifying Offers for our restricted free agents like Cam Thomas, though.

I think he'll seek an extension with a $30mil average annual value, similar to Jalen Green and others of that level. However, I think we should play hardball and demand he find a suitor willing to offer him that much, so we can match. They say this approach leads to bad blood between a team and the player/agent, but I cannot stand the thought of us overpaying CT simply because he's "our guy". We did that with Nic, and it really backfired. We couldn't move him because he's playing so poorly compared to his contract, and he hasn't made any effort to become a locker room leader IMO.

SO, Cam, take this 3yr, $60mil prove-it deal. Or, sign the QO, become an unrestricted free agent in 2026 and let's see if the market treats you better then.

[Stone]

Now that the Wizards, Pelicans and Spurs are out of the capspace game for summer 2025 after their trade deadline acquisitions, Brooklyn is really in the driver's seat of free agency.

We should have more than $75mil to spend under the salary cap, including the caphold for our 4 1st round draft picks. That does not include the Qualifying Offers for our restricted free agents like Cam Thomas, though.

I think he'll seek an extension with a $30mil average annual value, similar to Jalen Green and others of that level. However, I think we should play hardball and demand he find a suitor willing to offer him that much, so we can match. They say this approach leads to bad blood between a team and the player/agent, but I cannot stand the thought of us overpaying CT simply because he's "our guy". We did that with Nic, and it really backfired. We couldn't move him because he's playing so poorly compared to his contract, and he hasn't made any effort to become a locker room leader IMO.

SO, Cam, take this 3yr, $60mil prove-it deal. Or, sign the QO, become an unrestricted free agent in 2026 and let's see if the market treats you better then.

Thanks for sharing the cap info..

As far as Cam, it may be difficult to get him that low after what Claxton got. But it is possible, 3-60 imo might be the starting point.

[TheNetsFan]

I think it'll play out like the Okoro situation did. Decide on the QO or a multi-year deal around the QO/MLE money.

[ecuhus1981]

Now that the Wizards, Pelicans and Spurs are out of the capspace game for summer 2025 after their trade deadline acquisitions, Brooklyn is really in the driver's seat of free agency.

We should have more than $75mil to spend under the salary cap, including the caphold for our 4 1st round draft picks. That does not include the Qualifying Offers for our restricted free agents like Cam Thomas, though.

I think he'll seek an extension with a $30mil average annual value, similar to Jalen Green and others of that level. However, I think we should play hardball and demand he find a suitor willing to offer him that much, so we can match. They say this approach leads to bad blood between a team and the player/agent, but I cannot stand the thought of us overpaying CT simply because he's "our guy". We did that with Nic, and it really backfired. We couldn't move him because he's playing so poorly compared to his contract, and he hasn't made any effort to become a locker room leader IMO.

SO, Cam, take this 3yr, $60mil prove-it deal. Or, sign the QO, become an unrestricted free agent in 2026 and let's see if the market treats you better then.

Thanks for sharing the cap info..

As far as Cam, it may be difficult to get him that low after what Claxton got. But it is possible, 3-60 imo might be the starting point.

I know, right? Paying $2-3mil per year AAV higher than market rate for both Johnson and Claxton may not seem like a big deal, but it sets a precedent for future free agents on the team. I feel like Marks did the same with Harris, and it bites a team in the rear in the long run.