PG: A win is a win...I guess

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[Besart19]

Start Mitch and KAT? Wouldn't the cost of Jonas BE Mitch?

Precious is, what, 7 million per? Where's the other 5 million come from? Deuce? No thanks.

Achiuwa is 6, Jonas is 10M

Knicks would have to shed depth just to add another C. Not interested.

I get two of the pieces in the trade would be from the pile of centers the Knicks have, but still.

And they'd lose the 2nd most effective bench player in Payne.

Like up higher, if they trust Kolek, maybe.

Should be for a wing though, like NoDope says.

I would love Jerami Grant or DeAndre Hunter

And we must sign TJ the Bucket Warren

Towns / Hukporti / Sims
Grant / Josh Hart / Dadiet
Anunoby / Warren / McCullar
Bridges / McBride / Shamet
Brunson / Payne / Kolek

[Jalen Bluntson]

I wont get into the Randle stuff but I will say that I agree. At the very least- it's pretty evident with Thibs coaching style we need Mitch back...and we will never hit that machine level until he comes back...

He can't adjust things until then? He can't give Hukporti a shot for more than 5 minutes a month? What is the team supposed to do when Mitch sits? What if he gets hurt again? There's no other option without Mitch?

This idea that Mitch will save us is a problem. They knew for MONTHS Mitch was not going to play. Thibs did nothing to work around that. Hukporti can't play 15 minutes? His boy Sims was playing a ton before Precious came back. Then it was off to Siberia. Then he STARTED HIM! Then he went back to Siberia to keep Hukporti warm. Precious barely gets 20mpg when he is needed. OG/Mikal can't get off the court.

If Mitch is the only player in the universe that can fix things, then we have a serious problem. It's not the roster. It's the HC.

JB...it is what it is...it's like taxes...complaining- stressing and constantly thinking about it is going to spoil your season. Just enjoy the good times. Could you imagine if the nba and their whistles really controlled these game? I'm not saying they do- I'm just saying-
if Brunson and Kat got 25% more whistles- how well do you think this team woud be playing?

I'll tell you what I think. We would be up by 20 in many more games and the bench would have gotten more mintues. Ultimately
gaining Thibs confidence and ultmately leading to a better record. Etc...Maybe the nba doesnt want to spoil their narrative -
maybe they need to let OKC get one this year. The league's veiwership is down and they're 100's of billions at stake. who knows
what's really going on....

I just used that as an example of- ryhythm/momentum. We just dont know at this point. We have to focus on the good stuff
and see how this plays out. It's this groups 1st year. I'm sure Leon is assessing everything in the first year...

No question that Thibs will not change--thinking about that is no fun- the alternative is focusing on all negative aspects of this team- if I have to do that- I might as well not watch and spend my thoughts somewhere else..just saying bro

I'm watching and enjoying the good times as best as I can. I just keep hearing "wait until Mitch returns". Etc etc. I believe that he will help but, relying on his return is not as great as it sounds. He's just one very often injured player. That's a problem.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I wont get into the Randle stuff but I will say that I agree. At the very least- it's pretty evident with Thibs coaching style we need Mitch back...and we will never hit that machine level until he comes back...

He can't adjust things until then? He can't give Hukporti a shot for more than 5 minutes a month? What is the team supposed to do when Mitch sits? What if he gets hurt again? There's no other option without Mitch?

This idea that Mitch will save us is a problem. They knew for MONTHS Mitch was not going to play. Thibs did nothing to work around that. Hukporti can't play 15 minutes? His boy Sims was playing a ton before Precious came back. Then it was off to Siberia. Then he STARTED HIM! Then he went back to Siberia to keep Hukporti warm. Precious barely gets 20mpg when he is needed. OG/Mikal can't get off the court.

If Mitch is the only player in the universe that can fix things, then we have a serious problem. It's not the roster. It's the HC.

JB...it is what it is...it's like taxes...complaining- stressing and constantly thinking about it is going to spoil your season. Just enjoy the good times. Could you imagine if the nba and their whistles really controlled these game? I'm not saying they do- I'm just saying-
if Brunson and Kat got 25% more whistles- how well do you think this team woud be playing?

I'll tell you what I think. We would be up by 20 in many more games and the bench would have gotten more mintues. Ultimately
gaining Thibs confidence and ultmately leading to a better record. Etc...Maybe the nba doesnt want to spoil their narrative -
maybe they need to let OKC get one this year. The league's veiwership is down and they're 100's of billions at stake. who knows
what's really going on....

I just used that as an example of- ryhythm/momentum. We just dont know at this point. We have to focus on the good stuff
and see how this plays out. It's this groups 1st year. I'm sure Leon is assessing everything in the first year...

No question that Thibs will not change--thinking about that is no fun- the alternative is focusing on all negative aspects of this team- if I have to do that- I might as well not watch and spend my thoughts somewhere else..just saying bro

I'm watching and enjoying the good times as best as I can. I just keep hearing "wait until Mitch returns". Etc etc. I believe that he will help but, relying on his return is not as great as it sounds. He's just one very often injured player. That's a problem.

[Luv those Knicks]

one of my favorite all time Knicks....

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That was the strike shortened season. Spree became a Knick just before the abridged pre-season started. I went to an early pre-season game, and I was pretty much determined to not like the guy when we got him. I don't like coach chokers pretty much by default, no matter how big a jerk the coach might be.

But Spree won me over. He was electric, even though it was pre-season, he won over the crowd, and everyone was cheering for him as the game went on.

One of my favorite games was when Spree almost beat the spurs all by himself in the finals. I think it was game 4 at the garden. He missed the final shot that would have won the game I think. Too bad Ewing wasn't 5 years younger...

Spree was amazing in the 99 playoffs. Crazy good. I remember some playoff games when he held his own against Vince Carter, who was bigger and younger, but Spree matched him. He played his heart out sometimes. Obviously, the end of his career had some controversy, but when he was good, he was really good.

[Context]

He can't adjust things until then? He can't give Hukporti a shot for more than 5 minutes a month? What is the team supposed to do when Mitch sits? What if he gets hurt again? There's no other option without Mitch?

This idea that Mitch will save us is a problem. They knew for MONTHS Mitch was not going to play. Thibs did nothing to work around that. Hukporti can't play 15 minutes? His boy Sims was playing a ton before Precious came back. Then it was off to Siberia. Then he STARTED HIM! Then he went back to Siberia to keep Hukporti warm. Precious barely gets 20mpg when he is needed. OG/Mikal can't get off the court.

If Mitch is the only player in the universe that can fix things, then we have a serious problem. It's not the roster. It's the HC.

JB...it is what it is...it's like taxes...complaining- stressing and constantly thinking about it is going to spoil your season. Just enjoy the good times. Could you imagine if the nba and their whistles really controlled these game? I'm not saying they do- I'm just saying-
if Brunson and Kat got 25% more whistles- how well do you think this team woud be playing?

I'll tell you what I think. We would be up by 20 in many more games and the bench would have gotten more mintues. Ultimately
gaining Thibs confidence and ultmately leading to a better record. Etc...Maybe the nba doesnt want to spoil their narrative -
maybe they need to let OKC get one this year. The league's veiwership is down and they're 100's of billions at stake. who knows
what's really going on....

I just used that as an example of- ryhythm/momentum. We just dont know at this point. We have to focus on the good stuff
and see how this plays out. It's this groups 1st year. I'm sure Leon is assessing everything in the first year...

No question that Thibs will not change--thinking about that is no fun- the alternative is focusing on all negative aspects of this team- if I have to do that- I might as well not watch and spend my thoughts somewhere else..just saying bro

I'm watching and enjoying the good times as best as I can. I just keep hearing "wait until Mitch returns". Etc etc. I believe that he will help but, relying on his return is not as great as it sounds. He's just one very often injured player. That's a problem.

It's the price of upgrading to Mitch and Kat...The one point that we dont discuss enough is once the cap goes up we will have more oney to spend...I'm guessing the FO factored that in the design of the team.

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[JayTWill]

JB...it is what it is...it's like taxes...complaining- stressing and constantly thinking about it is going to spoil your season. Just enjoy the good times. Could you imagine if the nba and their whistles really controlled these game? I'm not saying they do- I'm just saying-
if Brunson and Kat got 25% more whistles- how well do you think this team woud be playing?

I'll tell you what I think. We would be up by 20 in many more games and the bench would have gotten more mintues. Ultimately
gaining Thibs confidence and ultmately leading to a better record. Etc...Maybe the nba doesnt want to spoil their narrative -
maybe they need to let OKC get one this year. The league's veiwership is down and they're 100's of billions at stake. who knows
what's really going on....

I just used that as an example of- ryhythm/momentum. We just dont know at this point. We have to focus on the good stuff
and see how this plays out. It's this groups 1st year. I'm sure Leon is assessing everything in the first year...

No question that Thibs will not change--thinking about that is no fun- the alternative is focusing on all negative aspects of this team- if I have to do that- I might as well not watch and spend my thoughts somewhere else..just saying bro

I'm watching and enjoying the good times as best as I can. I just keep hearing "wait until Mitch returns". Etc etc. I believe that he will help but, relying on his return is not as great as it sounds. He's just one very often injured player. That's a problem.

It's the price of upgrading to Mitch and Kat...The one point that we dont discuss enough is once the cap goes up we will have more oney to spend...I'm guessing the FO factored that in the design of the team.

From my understanding even with the cap increasing the Knicks will be over the cap for the next 3-4 years unless there are significant changes to the makeup of the roster. Depending on if they keep this core together or not they may not be under the cap until the 2028-2029 season or later.

Next year as a team over the 1st apron they will still likely be only able to offer vet min deals and possibly the Taxpayer MLE which will be less than $6M. Dario Saric was the only player that signed for the taxpayer MLE this year and you are unlikely to find many difference makers that changed teams in free agency making less than $6M per.

I don't see the roster construction benefiting much if at all from the increase in the cap for a while. They will still be heavily reliant on filling out the roster with vet min guys, drafted players or players acquired through trade.

[WargamesX]

I'm watching and enjoying the good times as best as I can. I just keep hearing "wait until Mitch returns". Etc etc. I believe that he will help but, relying on his return is not as great as it sounds. He's just one very often injured player. That's a problem.

It's the price of upgrading to Mitch and Kat...The one point that we dont discuss enough is once the cap goes up we will have more oney to spend...I'm guessing the FO factored that in the design of the team.

From my understanding even with the cap increasing the Knicks will be over the cap for the next 3-4 years unless there are significant changes to the makeup of the roster. Depending on if they keep this core together or not they may not be under the cap until the 2028-2029 season or later.

Next year as a team over the 1st apron they will still likely be only able to offer vet min deals and possibly the Taxpayer MLE which will be less than $6M. Dario Saric was the only player that signed for the taxpayer MLE this year and you are unlikely to find many difference makers that changed teams in free agency making less than $6M per.

I don't see the roster construction benefiting much if at all from the increase in the cap for a while. They will still be heavily reliant on filling out the roster with vet min guys, drafted players or players acquired through trade.

It’s the main reason I think they package Sims and Precious for a longer contract that includes bird rights. They need win now players, they will be able to go over the 1st/2nd apron for while they try to build the bench through second round picks.

[Muskies97]

Tbh I'm very pessimistic about the effectiveness of a KAT-Mitch front court for this team. People underestimate just how much KAT's offense is SEVERELY hampered when playing with a big that's clogging the paint. It would be like Gobert all over again.

I think Precious is a far more realistic front court partner due to his Speed//switch-ability//cutting//corner 3pt attempts. The T-Wolves made the playoffs in 2021-22 with Jarred Vanderbilt at the 4 (who's kind of similar to Precious), so the blueprint is already out there. that year they had the 13th ranked defense with a 1-5 duo of KAT and DLO.

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and yet we are 29-16 with the 6th best record in the entire league

I don't know how this team is pulling it off letting opposing teams shoot the 2nd best 3pt shooting percentage in the entire league

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and yet we are 29-16 with the 6th best record in the entire league

I don't know how this team is pulling it off letting opposing teams shoot the 2nd best 3pt shooting percentage in the entire league

Will.
If we had legs in OKC- we will that game.

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and yet we are 29-16 with the 6th best record in the entire league

I don't know how this team is pulling it off letting opposing teams shoot the 2nd best 3pt shooting percentage in the entire league

Because we've played the easiest strength of schedule by 1,000 miles in the league. And managed to have 3 of our starters play the most minutes. To barely beat teams actually trying to lose.

[8516knicks]

He can't adjust things until then? He can't give Hukporti a shot for more than 5 minutes a month? What is the team supposed to do when Mitch sits? What if he gets hurt again? There's no other option without Mitch?

This idea that Mitch will save us is a problem. They knew for MONTHS Mitch was not going to play. Thibs did nothing to work around that. Hukporti can't play 15 minutes? His boy Sims was playing a ton before Precious came back. Then it was off to Siberia. Then he STARTED HIM! Then he went back to Siberia to keep Hukporti warm. Precious barely gets 20mpg when he is needed. OG/Mikal can't get off the court.

If Mitch is the only player in the universe that can fix things, then we have a serious problem. It's not the roster. It's the HC.

JB...it is what it is...it's like taxes...complaining- stressing and constantly thinking about it is going to spoil your season. Just enjoy the good times. Could you imagine if the nba and their whistles really controlled these game? I'm not saying they do- I'm just saying-
if Brunson and Kat got 25% more whistles- how well do you think this team woud be playing?

I'll tell you what I think. We would be up by 20 in many more games and the bench would have gotten more mintues. Ultimately
gaining Thibs confidence and ultmately leading to a better record. Etc...Maybe the nba doesnt want to spoil their narrative -
maybe they need to let OKC get one this year. The league's veiwership is down and they're 100's of billions at stake. who knows
what's really going on....

I just used that as an example of- ryhythm/momentum. We just dont know at this point. We have to focus on the good stuff
and see how this plays out. It's this groups 1st year. I'm sure Leon is assessing everything in the first year...

No question that Thibs will not change--thinking about that is no fun- the alternative is focusing on all negative aspects of this team- if I have to do that- I might as well not watch and spend my thoughts somewhere else..just saying bro

I'm watching and enjoying the good times as best as I can. I just keep hearing "wait until Mitch returns". Etc etc. I believe that he will help but, relying on his return is not as great as it sounds. He's just one very often injured player. That's a problem.

You nailed the WAITING FOR MITCH problem. Which Mitch will show up?

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and yet we are 29-16 with the 6th best record in the entire league

I don't know how this team is pulling it off letting opposing teams shoot the 2nd best 3pt shooting percentage in the entire league

Neither does Thibs.

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That's pretty astonishing in itself. Never realized the NBA had morphed into such GREAT shooters where 37% was near the bottom. Good find.

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and yet we are 29-16 with the 6th best record in the entire league

I don't know how this team is pulling it off letting opposing teams shoot the 2nd best 3pt shooting percentage in the entire league

Neither does Thibs.

so for what it's worth, we are ranked #1 in allowing opposing teams the least defensive rebounds and total rebounds in the league

we are also ranked #2 in allowing opposing teams the least amount of steals

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2025.html

[8516knicks]

and yet we are 29-16 with the 6th best record in the entire league

I don't know how this team is pulling it off letting opposing teams shoot the 2nd best 3pt shooting percentage in the entire league

Neither does Thibs.

so for what it's worth, we are ranked #1 in allowing opposing teams the least defensive rebounds and total rebounds in the league

we are also ranked #2 in allowing opposing teams the least amount of steals

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2025.html

More good and significant stats - good finds & post. thanks.