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Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23)

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What were the Main Issues tonight?

Mazzulla is a Stubborn (etc.) Coach?
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27%
5 Games in 7 Nights?
13
24%
Cake Walk to the Championship, last year?
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2%
Not Playing Bench Guys when they're Hot?
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4%
Celtics Not Hungry, like last Season?
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35%
Stars were too Spent and Lackluster?
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4%
Lakers just Outplayed us?
3
5%
 
Total votes: 55

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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#41 » by Ben-N1ce » Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:31 pm

The team is playing like poop. I used to rarely miss a game now I'm not too invested till playoffs cuz a month of bad ball is a long time for a team with their talent. Have to hope it comes together at the right time.
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#42 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:32 pm

PierceFan4ever wrote:Jayson Tatum has shot over 50 percent just once in his last 15 games. His shot selection has been absolute garbage and hasn’t been getting to the paint enough/drawing fouls. Just a lot of three point chucking which he’s not even that good at

His shooting is not efficient, but he's productive and the offense runs better when he's at the controls.
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#43 » by chrisab123 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:42 pm

2nd game on a back to back and the team didn’t seem to want to be there.
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#44 » by Jellybeans » Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:01 pm

chrisab123 wrote:2nd game on a back to back and the team didn’t seem to want to be there.

Sure its back to back but for DWhite/Jrue/JB it feels like they been playing like this for full month
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#45 » by Bad-Thoma » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:04 pm

London2Boston wrote:I’ve been checked out this season. With the war and personal loss I’ve had back home it’s been hard to really get invested or even watch games. My Mental Health slowly getting better though and will get back into the swing of things. Has the season really been as disappointing and depressing as I am seeing the fanbase state all over online?


Disappointing at times, yes (especially of late). As disappointing as this fanbase states? Lol, no. You'd thing we were tanking and landed the 15th pick. There's struggles now but if healthy this team is still the same team as last year and will be one of the top 4 likeliest teams to win it all. Lately it's been inconsistent and ugly though, the energy level is fllaaattt.

Glad to hear your mental health is getting better, best wishes there.
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#46 » by tfribs45 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:11 pm

This group is getting burned out. Need a boost to the roster, Brad and CO. need to be looking for deals before the deadline. Nothing crazy to shake up our top 5 but everyone else should be available. What exactly has Hauser done lately? Our G league bench needs a boost most of our bench PP included in the negatives last night. Time to trim some fat. I'd give Memphis some pennies on the dollar and get Mahcuss Smahtttt back here! Our defense has been pathetic! Pat Bev could even help this unit, something needs to change, at least a slight tweak!
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#47 » by brackdan70 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:13 pm

Seems like just going through the motions until the playoffs. Jan has been a rough schedule but need to be winning more than half the games. Bring on the all star break asap. I hope White doesn’t make it so he can rest.
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#48 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:21 pm

tfribs45 wrote:This group is getting burned out. Need a boost to the roster, Brad and CO. need to be looking for deals before the deadline. Nothing crazy to shake up our top 5 but everyone else should be available. What exactly has Hauser done lately? Our G league bench needs a boost most of our bench PP included in the negatives last night. Time to trim some fat. I'd give Memphis some pennies on the dollar and get Mahcuss Smahtttt back here! Our defense has been pathetic! Pat Bev could even help this unit, something needs to change, at least a slight tweak!

Smart for Jrue?

For the trade to work, it would have to be Jrue and Tillman for Smart and LaRavia.

Because of the new tax rules, Celtics giving Memphis pennies on the dollar is not allowed.
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Post#49 » by ryan in Maine » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:32 pm

No more 10 o'clock games!
UNIONIZE! WITH THE EMERGENCY WORKPLACE ORGANIZING COMMITTEE (EWOC)!
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Post#50 » by ThePigeon » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:32 pm

tfribs45 wrote:This group is getting burned out. Need a boost to the roster, Brad and CO. need to be looking for deals before the deadline. Nothing crazy to shake up our top 5 but everyone else should be available. What exactly has Hauser done lately? Our G league bench needs a boost most of our bench PP included in the negatives last night. Time to trim some fat. I'd give Memphis some pennies on the dollar and get Mahcuss Smahtttt back here! Our defense has been pathetic! Pat Bev could even help this unit, something needs to change, at least a slight tweak!


This group needs Joe to stop playing double bigs and start playing some high energy players like Walsh and Springer before any trade
You can also add someone via free agency
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#51 » by tfribs45 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:47 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:This group is getting burned out. Need a boost to the roster, Brad and CO. need to be looking for deals before the deadline. Nothing crazy to shake up our top 5 but everyone else should be available. What exactly has Hauser done lately? Our G league bench needs a boost most of our bench PP included in the negatives last night. Time to trim some fat. I'd give Memphis some pennies on the dollar and get Mahcuss Smahtttt back here! Our defense has been pathetic! Pat Bev could even help this unit, something needs to change, at least a slight tweak!

Smart for Jrue?

For the trade to work, it would have to be Jrue and Tillman for Smart and LaRavia.

Because of the new tax rules, Celtics giving Memphis pennies on the dollar is not allowed.



yeah I wouldn't touch Jrue or shake up our starting 5 this year. Will be interesting to see what additions C's can make before the deadline or buyout season. Either way Brad can't just sit on his hands here.
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#52 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:16 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:This group is getting burned out. Need a boost to the roster, Brad and CO. need to be looking for deals before the deadline. Nothing crazy to shake up our top 5 but everyone else should be available. What exactly has Hauser done lately? Our G league bench needs a boost most of our bench PP included in the negatives last night. Time to trim some fat. I'd give Memphis some pennies on the dollar and get Mahcuss Smahtttt back here! Our defense has been pathetic! Pat Bev could even help this unit, something needs to change, at least a slight tweak!

Smart for Jrue?

For the trade to work, it would have to be Jrue and Tillman for Smart and LaRavia.

Because of the new tax rules, Celtics giving Memphis pennies on the dollar is not allowed.



yeah I wouldn't touch Jrue or shake up our starting 5 this year. Will be interesting to see what additions C's can make before the deadline or buyout season. Either way Brad can't just sit on his hands here.



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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#53 » by return2glory » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:20 pm

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return2glory wrote:I'm in favor of Sam Cassell for head coach, if Joe can't get this team turned around in the next 4-6 weeks.


why wait so Long????


Because I know a coaching change won't happen. Also I want Joe to prove us wrong. It's not his fault because he is going with the guys that got the team a championship. The sad part is the guys that got him a championship have nothing to prove. They got a ring. All the starters are extremely well paid. They are tired from a long previous season.

The part that is Joe's fault is he knows the starters are tried. And he still continues to play them a lot of minutes and keeps a short rotation. This is the season to use his bench players more, to keep the starters fresh for the playoffs.

Take Springer for example. That was a fluke he played against the Clippers. Jrue was out, so Springer got a chance to finally play.
Springer played great and the following game he got 0 minutes until the game had reached blow out status.
Springer should have played in that 1st half because the team was flat once again. No energy, no effort and no pride shown against their main rivals.

Joe doesn't want to hurt the starters feelings from what it seems like, even if it's costing the team wins. He is a young coach. A good veteran coach wouldn't care as much.
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#54 » by PierceFan4ever » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:02 pm

This team deserves a chance to run it back so no need to break up the group but there needs to be an identity here and role hierarchy. Offense needs to be more creative and the effort on defense has been god awful. Can’t take shortcuts to win games when everyone is looking forward to kicking the defending champs ass no matter the opponent
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#55 » by phincsfan » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:12 pm

I don't get the coaching change narrative? He won a championship in his second year. Stevens understands patience because DA had that with him and he didn't win a championship as a HC. Nothing against Stevens but that's a fact. The players IMO, don't have a leg to stand on because they won a championship with him. They're just not playing well at the moment. Players have poisoned organizations when they go with the "criticize the coaching" angle. That would be the worst thing that could happen to this organization.

My complaint with Joe was not playing the bench more, not because I think they can win them games or take over games. It was because I wanted the core rotation to stay as healthy and fresh as they can for the playoff push. I expect mistakes from Walsh, Neems, Peterson. But with time during the year they'll improve, still make mistakes and struggle at times but their filling in for the starters.

Joe is a square peg in a round hole guy who at this point IMO, thinks that the team needs to figure it out each night. I hope it works out because the only thing that cause them to lose a 7 games series is injuries and/or fatigue.

But if the horses are telling him they're good to go each night then that's it.

When they go back to back the documentary in 2036 will be great and narrated by Eddie and Scal :D
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Post#56 » by djFan71 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:29 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
djFan71 wrote:We should trade for CJ McCollum like Reggie Miller said. Just let other people figure the money out….

Unless you're willing to trade Tatum for McCollum, there's no way CJ coming to the Cs is possible.

Another Reggie Miller wish was Jerami Grant to the Cs.

Jrue for Jerami works.

But I think a Jrue Holiday for Cam Johnson trade would be better.

Cs would have to give up 2 1st rnd picks.

Cam is younger, better, and cheaper at this stage of their careers.

That was my point.
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#57 » by djFan71 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:32 pm

phincsfan wrote:I don't get the coaching change narrative? He won a championship in his second year. Stevens understands patience because DA had that with him and he didn't win a championship as a HC. Nothing against Stevens but that's a fact. The players IMO, don't have a leg to stand on because they won a championship with him. They're just not playing well at the moment. Players have poisoned organizations when they go with the "criticize the coaching" angle. That would be the worst thing that could happen to this organization.

My complaint with Joe was not playing the bench more, not because I think they can win them games or take over games. It was because I wanted the core rotation to stay as healthy and fresh as they can for the playoff push. I expect mistakes from Walsh, Neems, Peterson. But with time during the year they'll improve, still make mistakes and struggle at times but their filling in for the starters.

Joe is a square peg in a round hole guy who at this point IMO, thinks that the team needs to figure it out each night. I hope it works out because the only thing that cause them to lose a 7 games series is injuries and/or fatigue.

But if the horses are telling him they're good to go each night then that's it.

When they go back to back the documentary in 2036 will be great and narrated by Eddie and Scal :D

Yeah, it's frustrating since I always wanna go 10 deep and develop a young guy. But, fully healthy, Joe plays 9 guys and doesn't run anyone into the ground. And 3 of those 9 are ones he helped develop (Pritch, Hauser, Kornet). It's hard to complain too much about that. But, we manage to. :)
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#58 » by Parasite » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:43 pm

You can’t shake the roster up right now. These guys, as bad as they’ve looked at times, deserve the chance to repeat. If they flame out in the playoffs, then you take a chainsaw to the roster.
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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#59 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:46 pm

Parasite wrote:You can’t shake the roster up right now. These guys, as bad as they’ve looked at times, deserve the chance to repeat. If they flame out in the playoffs, then you take a chainsaw to the roster.

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Re: Post Game Thread – Why did the Celtics Lose to the Lakers (1/23) 

Post#60 » by bisme37 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:47 pm

This will probably be unpopular but I didn't think the issue was effort.

Energy, sure. But I saw tired legs and sloppy play and short shots more so than guys not trying. 5th game in 7 nights and coming off OT the night before. Other team all fired up to beat us, like usual but it's the Lakers so even more than usual.

Bad night and I'm mad about it and everything but not trying to not lose my mind over here haha. Joe probably should have gone more to the bench in this one.

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