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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1541 » by Yallbecrazy » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:26 am

CMB with 4 steals, 2 blocks, and 7 orebs today.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1542 » by Syd-TK3 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:18 am

I've been way too obsessed with the top 3/4 so it's good to see some quality games from Edgecombe and Johnson
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1543 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:24 am

Yallbecrazy wrote:CMB with 4 steals, 2 blocks, and 7 orebs today.


Still can't shoot. Is he Draymond level good or is he that much better than Mogbo?

Would go for Rasheer over CMB.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1544 » by Spates » Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:33 am

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Spates wrote:This is going to be a good draft. Raps need multiple picks.

Edgecombe
Murray-Boyles
Demin
Flagg
Karaban
Miles Byrd
Harper
Bailey

All have some spice. Flagg needs more seasoning. Strength and explosion are less than I imagined but he just turned 18. Harper may be too on-ball for my liking. The rest of these guys know who they should be.

This might be like the 2021 draft where I'd much rather have 5 and 8 than the first pick.


You could say this about last year's draft, but this year, hell no!

Flagg looks at least as promising as Paolo Banchero with more STOCKS.

You gotta ask, like is Tre Johnson just RJ Barrett that can shoot better but not as strong driving to the hoop. Is VJ, Victor Oladipo or Ochai Agbaji?


i see what you mean but Flagg, Harper, Bailey, Demin, and maybe even Edgecombe would have been in consideration as the first pick last year. This is a different draft.

i'm not blown away by Flagg relative to his hype and consensus draft position. Great potential but I think he'll rely more on skill development than I would've imagined. He's not nearly as physically imposing as I expected. I think he's been receiving a superstar whistle and I don't get the impression that his jumper is reliable. a lot of refining to do.

I have 0 interest in Tre Johnson. Streaky, one-way, bucket getter.

Love VJ's tools. He's a guy that might to able to explode to the basket at will. Needs much refinement in his handle and decision-making.

Harper...I don't think you need ball dominant guards in the modern NBA. Not unless they are elite with their on-ball creation. I think he'll have to adjust to be a high impact player.

I think Murray-Boyles may be Draymond-lite defensively with elite finishing ability and great passing touch.

Demin is an amazing on-ball creator. I think he'll scale with stronger teammates. But again, his game needs growth to consolidate his creation and mitigate defensive issues.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1545 » by RoteSchroder » Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:39 am

Spates wrote:
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Spates wrote:This is going to be a good draft. Raps need multiple picks.

Edgecombe
Murray-Boyles
Demin
Flagg
Karaban
Miles Byrd
Harper
Bailey

All have some spice. Flagg needs more seasoning. Strength and explosion are less than I imagined but he just turned 18. Harper may be too on-ball for my liking. The rest of these guys know who they should be.

This might be like the 2021 draft where I'd much rather have 5 and 8 than the first pick.


You could say this about last year's draft, but this year, hell no!

Flagg looks at least as promising as Paolo Banchero with more STOCKS.

You gotta ask, like is Tre Johnson just RJ Barrett that can shoot better but not as strong driving to the hoop. Is VJ, Victor Oladipo or Ochai Agbaji?


i see what you mean but Flagg, Harper, Bailey, Demin, and maybe even Edgecombe would have been in consideration as the first pick last year. This is a different draft.

i'm not blown away by Flagg relative to his hype and consensus draft position. Great potential but I think he'll rely more on skill development than I would've imagined. He's not nearly as physically imposing as I expected. I think he's been receiving a superstar whistle and I don't get the impression that his jumper is reliable. a lot of refining to do.

I have 0 interest in Tre Johnson. Streaky, one-way, bucket getter.

Love VJ's tools. He's a guy that might to able to explode to the basket at will. Needs much refinement in his handle and decision-making.

Harper...I don't think you need ball dominant guards in the modern NBA. Not unless they are elite with their on-ball creation. I think he'll have to adjust to be a high impact player.

I think Murray-Boyles may be Draymond-lite defensively with elite finishing ability and great passing touch.

Demin is an amazing on-ball creator. I think he'll scale with stronger teammates. But again, his game needs growth to consolidate his creation and mitigate defensive issues.


Demin's a tier 3 passer/playmaker (Nash being tier 1) and seems to be below average at everything else. May have potential to be an average defender, but what would be the point of drafting him.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1546 » by Indeed » Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:55 am

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Maluach also is my guy if we draft at #5 - he's gonna be a beast.


(ignore today's performance)


Sounds like Mobley lite. We will need Garland equivalent to feed him the ball, and I don't think he fits with Barnes, and unlikely to be Darko type of high IQ passing big.


Maluach is not in Mobley's class. Mark Williams is more like it.

lol today was bad.


Mark Williams was drafted at 15th, are you sure you take Maluach this high?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1547 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:57 am

Indeed wrote:
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Indeed wrote:
Sounds like Mobley lite. We will need Garland equivalent to feed him the ball, and I don't think he fits with Barnes, and unlikely to be Darko type of high IQ passing big.


Maluach is not in Mobley's class. Mark Williams is more like it.

lol today was bad.


Mark Williams was drafted at 15th, are you sure you take Maluach this high?


Lol you're clueless if you think Maluach isn't a lotto pick.
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Post#1548 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:00 am

Spates wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Spates wrote:This is going to be a good draft. Raps need multiple picks.

Edgecombe
Murray-Boyles
Demin
Flagg
Karaban
Miles Byrd
Harper
Bailey

All have some spice. Flagg needs more seasoning. Strength and explosion are less than I imagined but he just turned 18. Harper may be too on-ball for my liking. The rest of these guys know who they should be.

This might be like the 2021 draft where I'd much rather have 5 and 8 than the first pick.


You could say this about last year's draft, but this year, hell no!

Flagg looks at least as promising as Paolo Banchero with more STOCKS.

You gotta ask, like is Tre Johnson just RJ Barrett that can shoot better but not as strong driving to the hoop. Is VJ, Victor Oladipo or Ochai Agbaji?


i see what you mean but Flagg, Harper, Bailey, Demin, and maybe even Edgecombe would have been in consideration as the first pick last year. This is a different draft.

i'm not blown away by Flagg relative to his hype and consensus draft position. Great potential but I think he'll rely more on skill development than I would've imagined. He's not nearly as physically imposing as I expected. I think he's been receiving a superstar whistle and I don't get the impression that his jumper is reliable. a lot of refining to do.

I have 0 interest in Tre Johnson. Streaky, one-way, bucket getter.

Love VJ's tools. He's a guy that might to able to explode to the basket at will. Needs much refinement in his handle and decision-making.

Harper...I don't think you need ball dominant guards in the modern NBA. Not unless they are elite with their on-ball creation. I think he'll have to adjust to be a high impact player.

I think Murray-Boyles may be Draymond-lite defensively with elite finishing ability and great passing touch.

Demin is an amazing on-ball creator. I think he'll scale with stronger teammates. But again, his game needs growth to consolidate his creation and mitigate defensive issues.


Demin was mocked 10-20. If his season was flipped and started slow he'd still be in the teens and maybe dropping into the early 20's and possibly going back for his sophomore season.

Nik Richards 20pts and 19 rebs for Phoenix. Is Maluach that level? Well Sorber just put up 25 pts, 15 rebs, 2 ast (1 to), 2 stl and 3 blks. 3 for 3 FT and 2 for 3 from deep. Duke is not doing Maluach any favours. I would take Sorber before Queen (a year older freshman).

Zvonimir got to play 27 mins but not start despite Oklahoma (Fears had a decent game) biggest guy is 6'10.
Z put up 10pts, 6 rebs, 4 ast (1 to) and 3 blks. I see his talent like the C version of Nikola Jovic. Great gamble with an early to mid 2nd pick. Like Maluach, Calipari is not doing him any favours, while Tomislav gets to start and play consistent mins.

One interesting player is 6'11 Aussie that plays for #5 Florida, Alex Condon! 44% from 3 with 2.3 ast (1.0 to), 0.8 stl and 1.5 blks (2 fouls) and a BPM of 11.3.



Condon just looks like he knows the game, while Danny Wolf might be the fool's gold player. They eye test, has me thinking more athletic Kelly Olynyk or even Franz Wagner.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1549 » by Indeed » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:15 am

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Indeed wrote:
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Maluach is not in Mobley's class. Mark Williams is more like it.

lol today was bad.


Mark Williams was drafted at 15th, are you sure you take Maluach this high?


Lol you're clueless if you think Maluach isn't a lotto pick.


I just don't value the impact of C by replacing Poeltl to put us into an average or above defensive team. And our offense isn't anything enough to satisfy with just adding a 3&D.
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Post#1550 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:26 am

Bailey will make max money for sure but is his scoring and rebounding enough to be like a Carmelo?

Anyways, outside of top 3, who do I really like? Mainly 3pt shooters. :nod:

Rasheer Fleming
Alex Condon
Tomislav Ivisic
Zvonimir Ivisic
Sergio de Larrea

Thomas Sorber is good but what if he just becomes Johni Broome? Wait Broome has an A/T of almost 3?!?!? :o Is he a better passing Boozer?
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Post#1551 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:28 am

Indeed wrote:
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Indeed wrote:
Mark Williams was drafted at 15th, are you sure you take Maluach this high?


Lol you're clueless if you think Maluach isn't a lotto pick.


I just don't value the impact of C by replacing Poeltl to put us into an average or above defensive team. And our offense isn't anything enough to satisfy with just adding a 3&D.


I'm not spending a pick in the lottery to see if Maluach is better than Chomche (who is already leading the GLeague in blocks). Even if Duke players aren't feeding Maluach the ball, at 7'2 he should be getting more blocks.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

They aren't afraid to buck the trend.

2 guys I liked but have now focused on bigs.

#7 Boogie Fland (I guess they think he'd be like Rob Dillinghan in the top 10)
#8 Ian Jackson

#22 Derik Queen
#23 Rasheer Fleming (he should rise with the combine)
#25 Khaman Maluach :o
#32 Colin Murray-Boyles (Draymond range)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1552 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:36 am

Nbadraft.net mock drafts in 2025…
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Post#1553 » by Thaddy » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:26 am

If we move down I would guess we target a role player prospect we hope can grow. If we're in the 7-12 range I would look at Maluach, Newell, McNeeley, Queen, and Fears. They would all be good bench pieces we could grow over the years. It would be disappointing to have one of them instead of the top 3-5 prospects in the draft.
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Post#1554 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:44 am

Thaddy wrote:If we move down I would guess we target a role player prospect we hope can grow. If we're in the 7-12 range I would look at Maluach, Newell, McNeeley, Queen, and Fears. They would all be good bench pieces we could grow over the years. It would be disappointing to have one of them instead of the top 3-5 prospects in the draft.


I would take Rasheer over all 5 of them. :D
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Post#1555 » by Thaddy » Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:37 am

Psubs wrote:
Thaddy wrote:If we move down I would guess we target a role player prospect we hope can grow. If we're in the 7-12 range I would look at Maluach, Newell, McNeeley, Queen, and Fears. They would all be good bench pieces we could grow over the years. It would be disappointing to have one of them instead of the top 3-5 prospects in the draft.


I would take Rasheer over all 5 of them. :D

He isn't a great prospect. He's a junior in college and his shot won't translate based on year over year return. He's also undersized.

If he clocks in at 6-10+ and shoots lights out I'd consider it.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1556 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:35 am

Kinda sad we’re probably missing out on Ace. Like if we’re 5 or something I’m aggressively trying to trade up with future picks and the like
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Post#1557 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:34 pm

I hope teams pass on Jak at this point. He’s clearly top 4 in this draft, but I’m praying the lack of athleticism scares teams off. Dude is gonna be a monster in the league.
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Post#1558 » by TorontoBarneys » Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:35 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1559 » by Spates » Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:57 pm

Psubs wrote:
Spates wrote:
Psubs wrote:
You could say this about last year's draft, but this year, hell no!

Flagg looks at least as promising as Paolo Banchero with more STOCKS.

You gotta ask, like is Tre Johnson just RJ Barrett that can shoot better but not as strong driving to the hoop. Is VJ, Victor Oladipo or Ochai Agbaji?


i see what you mean but Flagg, Harper, Bailey, Demin, and maybe even Edgecombe would have been in consideration as the first pick last year. This is a different draft.

i'm not blown away by Flagg relative to his hype and consensus draft position. Great potential but I think he'll rely more on skill development than I would've imagined. He's not nearly as physically imposing as I expected. I think he's been receiving a superstar whistle and I don't get the impression that his jumper is reliable. a lot of refining to do.

I have 0 interest in Tre Johnson. Streaky, one-way, bucket getter.

Love VJ's tools. He's a guy that might to able to explode to the basket at will. Needs much refinement in his handle and decision-making.

Harper...I don't think you need ball dominant guards in the modern NBA. Not unless they are elite with their on-ball creation. I think he'll have to adjust to be a high impact player.

I think Murray-Boyles may be Draymond-lite defensively with elite finishing ability and great passing touch.

Demin is an amazing on-ball creator. I think he'll scale with stronger teammates. But again, his game needs growth to consolidate his creation and mitigate defensive issues.


Demin was mocked 10-20. If his season was flipped and started slow he'd still be in the teens and maybe dropping into the early 20's and possibly going back for his sophomore season.

Nik Richards 20pts and 19 rebs for Phoenix. Is Maluach that level? Well Sorber just put up 25 pts, 15 rebs, 2 ast (1 to), 2 stl and 3 blks. 3 for 3 FT and 2 for 3 from deep. Duke is not doing Maluach any favours. I would take Sorber before Queen (a year older freshman).

Zvonimir got to play 27 mins but not start despite Oklahoma (Fears had a decent game) biggest guy is 6'10.
Z put up 10pts, 6 rebs, 4 ast (1 to) and 3 blks. I see his talent like the C version of Nikola Jovic. Great gamble with an early to mid 2nd pick. Like Maluach, Calipari is not doing him any favours, while Tomislav gets to start and play consistent mins.

One interesting player is 6'11 Aussie that plays for #5 Florida, Alex Condon! 44% from 3 with 2.3 ast (1.0 to), 0.8 stl and 1.5 blks (2 fouls) and a BPM of 11.3.



Condon just looks like he knows the game, while Danny Wolf might be the fool's gold player. They eye test, has me thinking more athletic Kelly Olynyk or even Franz Wagner.

Thanks for the names, I'll check these guys out.

Right Danny Wolf, I forgot about him. I have some thoughts on him but would like to see more tape. If he isn't a complete defensive liability I think he'll have some serious utility. Ball dominant but I don't get the impression he can't play more off-ball. But again, need more tape.

Sorber, Maluach, and Queen haven't pique my interest at all. College pros maybe. They remind me of the Thomas Robinson, Hasheem Thabeet, or GG Jacksons of the draft.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1560 » by Spates » Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:05 pm

RoteSchroder wrote:
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You could say this about last year's draft, but this year, hell no!

Flagg looks at least as promising as Paolo Banchero with more STOCKS.

You gotta ask, like is Tre Johnson just RJ Barrett that can shoot better but not as strong driving to the hoop. Is VJ, Victor Oladipo or Ochai Agbaji?


i see what you mean but Flagg, Harper, Bailey, Demin, and maybe even Edgecombe would have been in consideration as the first pick last year. This is a different draft.

i'm not blown away by Flagg relative to his hype and consensus draft position. Great potential but I think he'll rely more on skill development than I would've imagined. He's not nearly as physically imposing as I expected. I think he's been receiving a superstar whistle and I don't get the impression that his jumper is reliable. a lot of refining to do.

I have 0 interest in Tre Johnson. Streaky, one-way, bucket getter.

Love VJ's tools. He's a guy that might to able to explode to the basket at will. Needs much refinement in his handle and decision-making.

Harper...I don't think you need ball dominant guards in the modern NBA. Not unless they are elite with their on-ball creation. I think he'll have to adjust to be a high impact player.

I think Murray-Boyles may be Draymond-lite defensively with elite finishing ability and great passing touch.

Demin is an amazing on-ball creator. I think he'll scale with stronger teammates. But again, his game needs growth to consolidate his creation and mitigate defensive issues.


Demin's a tier 3 passer/playmaker (Nash being tier 1) and seems to be below average at everything else. May have potential to be an average defender, but what would be the point of drafting him.

I have to disagree. Demin has the best vision in the draft. cerebral player. manipulates and reads the floor well. His problem is that he struggles to finish. He needs more strength and time to work on his shot. And despite his scoring weaknesses he masterfully creates for his squad. I think he'd raise a teams floor sooner than many of the other draftees.

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