Jaden Springer coming out party

[Half-Full]

When Springer was getting consistent rotation mins in Philly before we traded for him, he was finding that balance well. He was locking guys up - guys like Steph, SGA, Brunson, Luka, etc.

And Tatum.

[playa-hater]

Just saw this thread. I have some mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I am very happy for Springer. Who isn't? But it makes me wonder, what If?? What if Joe would have used Springer and/or Walsh and/or Queta much more??? What If Joe didn't go into short rotations since Nov/Dec?? Would we perhaps have that much needed energy and well Fueled team right now? Is Joe not capable of implementing more players at one time?? Would that make his head spin too much??

We can all wonder and imagine what may have been. It is all unproveable theories at this time. But my Gut says Joe missed a REAL opportunity to do better, far better for both the young players and the TEAM overall.

The three players you mentioned have all shown that they can inject needed energy into a game, and I've seen more than one game where we could have used some energy. When the starters aren't playing so well, and the other team is rolling, why not send in Springer, Queta, and Walsh? Tell them you are counting on them to change things up, and see what they can do. If they aren't effective, what have you lost? The starters weren't doing it either. They could also turn things around, but not if they are glued to the bench watching Tatum fiddling and diddling at the three point line, eating up the clock, then bricking a shot or driving into a crowd and getting stripped of the ball. More PT for them will build their confidence, and provide our starters with needed rest. Seems like that would be a good thing.

Everything you said seems so logical. Yet..

[ConstableGeneva]

Could be a case of showcasing a trade candidate for tax savings purposes. If he doesn't get traded, I expect him disappearing into the back of rotation again.

But he has his uses on the court. If they retain him on the cheap past this season, I won't get mad.

[Fierce1]

The Jaden Springer situation will be resolved in less than 2 weeks.

If Spring does not get traded then it's just a matter of time before we see Spring get playing time.

[return2glory]

Just saw this thread. I have some mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I am very happy for Springer. Who isn't? But it makes me wonder, what If?? What if Joe would have used Springer and/or Walsh and/or Queta much more??? What If Joe didn't go into short rotations since Nov/Dec?? Would we perhaps have that much needed energy and well Fueled team right now? Is Joe not capable of implementing more players at one time?? Would that make his head spin too much??

We can all wonder and imagine what may have been. It is all unproveable theories at this time. But my Gut says Joe missed a REAL opportunity to do better, far better for both the young players and the TEAM overall.

Rest is underestimated, especially after a long championship season the year before. Since we probably won't caught the Cavs for the 1st seed, I'm hoping Joe gives the starters much needed rest. Not asking for much, just cut back on the starters minutes by 2 or 3 minutes a game. Give them an occasionally day off, here and there. Keep them fresh for another title run.

There have been many times this season when the opposing guards were going off and we could have used Springer to apply defensive pressure and cool them off. Even if that meant playing him 5 minutes a half. Especially when some of our guys are flat and playing with very little defensive intensity. You bring a guy or two to exert that energy and it gets the whole team going.

That's one of my change ups with coach Joe "Thibodeau" Mazzulla. Those short rotations, no whatever what. Springer only played against the Clippers because 3 of our top 7 were out.

[playa-hater]

Just saw this thread. I have some mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I am very happy for Springer. Who isn't? But it makes me wonder, what If?? What if Joe would have used Springer and/or Walsh and/or Queta much more??? What If Joe didn't go into short rotations since Nov/Dec?? Would we perhaps have that much needed energy and well Fueled team right now? Is Joe not capable of implementing more players at one time?? Would that make his head spin too much??

We can all wonder and imagine what may have been. It is all unproveable theories at this time. But my Gut says Joe missed a REAL opportunity to do better, far better for both the young players and the TEAM overall.

Rest is underestimated, especially after a long championship season the year before. Since we probably won't caught the Cavs for the 1st seed, I'm hoping Joe gives the starters much needed rest. Not asking for much, just cut back on the starters minutes by 2 or 3 minutes a game. Give them an occasionally day off, here and there. Keep them fresh for another title run.

There have been many times this season when the opposing guards were going off and we could have used Springer to apply defensive pressure and cool them off. Even if that meant playing him 5 minutes a half. Especially when some of our guys are flat and playing with very little defensive intensity. You bring a gut or two to exert that energy and it gets the whole team going.

That's one of my change ups with coach Joe "Thibodeau" Mazzulla. Those short rotations, no whatever what. Springer only played against the Clippers because 3 of our top 7 were out.

Can't agree more

[31to6]

He is back "out" again -- great minutes vs the Bulls.
He's playing defense like a young Avery Bradley and that is high praise!
I will happily eat all of the crow.
Are they just showcasing him to move him, or does he actually have a role with the team going forward?

[Fierce1]

He is back "out" again -- great minutes vs the Bulls.
He's playing defense like a young Avery Bradley and that is high praise!
I will happily eat all of the crow.
Are they just showcasing him to move him, or does he actually have a role with the team going forward?

We'll know for sure in one week.

If he does not get traded then expect him to get more playing time.

[165bows]

He is back "out" again -- great minutes vs the Bulls.
He's playing defense like a young Avery Bradley and that is high praise!
I will happily eat all of the crow.
Are they just showcasing him to move him, or does he actually have a role with the team going forward?

Yeah weird how he's gotten unglued from the bench recently. Not sure if he had some low level injury prior or he's just played his way into the rotation?

Hitting on these low level add ons is huge so I'll keep rooting for him if he can get it done.

[31to6]

He is back "out" again -- great minutes vs the Bulls.
He's playing defense like a young Avery Bradley and that is high praise!
I will happily eat all of the crow.
Are they just showcasing him to move him, or does he actually have a role with the team going forward?

Yeah weird how he's gotten unglued from the bench recently. Not sure if he had some low level injury prior or he's just played his way into the rotation?

Hitting on these low level add ons is huge so I'll keep rooting for him if he can get it done.

young man is 22 years old. Not many guys CAN play defense like he does, and even fewer WANT to. Especially in a future in which Jrue Holiday is no longer a Celtic or no longer a primary contributor, you can see a role for him to develop here. His offensive game will likely limit him, but I thought the same of Avery Bradley early on.

That said, the reason he's playing is likely because it will currently take two 2nds to dump his salary and they want to see if they can get that down to one or even none.

We might never know, but we shall see!

[Fierce1]

Joe gets criticized for not playing Spring.

But Spoelstra took around 30 games to start playing Kelel Ware even if Ware was dominating the summer league.

We will never know what goes on behind the scenes.

But it's good that Joe has finally given Spring an opportunity to play.

[playa-hater]

He is back "out" again -- great minutes vs the Bulls.
He's playing defense like a young Avery Bradley and that is high praise!
I will happily eat all of the crow.
Are they just showcasing him to move him, or does he actually have a role with the team going forward?

My money is on showcasing, Because Joe will not expand his rotation Unless Brad put his foot down. Still no guarantee he gets traded. Is there a market for him because of some nice flashes?? At least we know he can hit some 3s. He is a Dawg on defense for sure though.

[165bows]

He is back "out" again -- great minutes vs the Bulls.
He's playing defense like a young Avery Bradley and that is high praise!
I will happily eat all of the crow.
Are they just showcasing him to move him, or does he actually have a role with the team going forward?

My money is on showcasing, Because Joe will not expand his rotation Unless Brad put his foot down. Still no guarantee he gets traded. Is there a market for him because of some nice flashes?? At least we know he can hit some 3s. He is a Dawg on defense for sure though.

Question for me is what's behind him passing Peterson/Walsh in the rotation. Obviously injury opened some time but who gets is the question. Matchups, practice performance, etc etc. Maybe the deadline who knows lol.

[Celts17Pride]

He is back "out" again -- great minutes vs the Bulls.
He's playing defense like a young Avery Bradley and that is high praise!
I will happily eat all of the crow.
Are they just showcasing him to move him, or does he actually have a role with the team going forward?

My money is on showcasing, Because Joe will not expand his rotation Unless Brad put his foot down. Still no guarantee he gets traded. Is there a market for him because of some nice flashes?? At least we know he can hit some 3s. He is a Dawg on defense for sure though.

Question for me is what's behind him passing Peterson/Walsh in the rotation. Obviously injury opened some time but who gets is the question. Matchups, practice performance, etc etc. Maybe the deadline who knows lol.

Trade deadline. Once Feb 6th passes and if Springer is still on the Celtics, he will go back into the player protection program and be glue to the bench for the balance of the season.

[Hal14]

He is back "out" again -- great minutes vs the Bulls.
He's playing defense like a young Avery Bradley and that is high praise!
I will happily eat all of the crow.
Are they just showcasing him to move him, or does he actually have a role with the team going forward?

Well, pretty much the only times he's gotten non-garbage time mins was vs Clippers (we were down 3 rotation players) and last night vs Bulls (Al and Hauser were out).

So it might just be that we're shorthanded.

But it is worth noting that he's been in there in those games more than Peterson and Walsh..and sometimes more than bigs like Queta/Tillman, which allows us to play single big rather than double big.

And it's still a small sample size of games/mins for both, but at this point Springer is much better than Walsh this season in terms of BPM, TS%, FTr, assist %, etc.

He's been playing well when given the chance..up to 35% from 3 now on the season..41% if we include preseason and 2024 summer league.

I think he's looking like a solid 10th man (after our set in stone top 8 guys and Kornet as the 9th man).

If Kornet and Springer keep playing well, that's a really solid 9th/10th man combo. Anyone we could realistically trade Springer for at this point probably won't be much of an upgrade..and your 10th man barely plays come playoff time so you also have to ask whether it's worth it to move precious draft capital to trade for a guy who likely won't play much..

[Tatumfor2]

I have no idea what will happen, but I've enjoyed his minutes immensely. He's still a little frantic. Reminds me of Nesmith a bit in that way. Having him around to throw at guys like Hali, Maxi or the Cleveland guards in the playoffs seems worth it to me!!

[shackles10]

I think it's a combo of health (Hauser missing games opened up something off the bench. Jrue and White missing at least a few games opened up a backcourt opportunity) and the fact that our defense has stunk (so less likely to use Walsh and Petersen). I'm not saying those last two guys are lousy defenders, but they aren't Springer. There is also the factor of the looming trade deadline as well.

[jmr07019]

It’s nice having an energy / defensive guard off the bench. Springers defensive quickness is something no one else on the roster has. White does to an extent but not nearly as much as Jaden. He can definitely be useful against our biggest competition Cleveland and OKC. 10 mpg seems reasonable.

[Parliament10]

Springer is a Defensive Guru. Personally, IDK that he was this good at the NBA level.
I think that we keep him.

I don't think that we Trade anyone.

[Marvel]

We have to keep him.