2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2
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Spates wrote:RoteSchroder wrote:Spates wrote:I have to disagree. Demin has the best vision in the draft. cerebral player. manipulates and reads the floor well. His problem is that he struggles to finish. He needs more strength and time to work on his shot. And despite his scoring weaknesses he masterfully creates for his squad. I think he'd raise a teams floor sooner than many of the other draftees.
Any highlights you have of high level shot creation? Maybe some plays that a normal PG or a player like Scottie is unable to make?
Okay, I'll put you on my homework list too.
Just hit me with a time mark if you’re watching highlights and notice an elite pass
From what I’ve seen it’s pretty basic. A majority of it includes passing to the roller, drive and kick, swinging the ball on the perimeter, high low feeds, finding cutters, etc.
It’s great that he can do it all and his passes are crisp and quick, definitely above average, but it’s also not particularly special. On top of that, the ability to score is a vital part of playmaking.
On our team, the fit is even worse, we need elite scoring and defense. There’s nothing he can do that isn’t already being done.
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Psubs wrote:Spates wrote:Psubs wrote:
WTF, he signed a rookie contract to play in the Aussie Rules Football.So he must have great footwork, think multi-sport Nash with soccer. Also toughness like Steven Adams. I think the mental strength would be good. We need a mid to late 1st to guarantee him not to go back to Florida or go to the AFL.
Quick initial impression:
I think he might be exactly what the team has been looking for at the 5. I don't think he's ready for the next level, but the feel is there and it's no reason to not draft him if he declares.
Ya, 1 year of Chomche treatment should be enough. I feel like he's a Mogbo level prospect but 6'11 and can shoot the 3 already.
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Mentioned him earlier and personally like him more than CMB. CMB reminds me a lot more of Draymond with a few more skills around the basket. Fleming reminds me of Eason with a left hand lol (as in can use both hands to dribble). I’d LOVE to get him with a 2nd first somehow but if we were to fall out of the top 10 and were choosing between the two, I like Rasheer just a little bit more.
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RoteSchroder wrote:Spates wrote:RoteSchroder wrote:
Any highlights you have of high level shot creation? Maybe some plays that a normal PG or a player like Scottie is unable to make?
Okay, I'll put you on my homework list too.
Just hit me with a time mark if you’re watching highlights and notice an elite pass
From what I’ve seen it’s pretty basic. A majority of it includes passing to the roller, drive and kick, swinging the ball on the perimeter, high low feeds, finding cutters, etc.
It’s great that he can do it all and his passes are crisp and quick, definitely above average, but it’s also not particularly special. On top of that, the ability to score is a vital part of playmaking.
On our team, the fit is even worse, we need elite scoring and defense. There’s nothing he can do that isn’t already being done.
I'll hit you with a time mark when I find the right clips.
That said, it's not so much about degree of difficulty passes with Demin. It's more about his ability to probe with a live dribble to create passing lanes and set-up teammates. Paired with his height, he can make a wide variety of passes.
He's 18 and incredibly gifted. Still needs strength, refinement and a solid 3pt shot. Such great potential.
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So Condon vs Demin, who is the better prospect? Condon is 1 year older but that's because he's much newer to the game. Has the same A/T but BYU uses Demin as a point forward while Florida has 3 pretty good senior starting guards. Condon is a better rim protector at 6'11. I would say that both are decent finishers. They are both probably similar with perimeter defense. Both can finish with their left hand already. Similar quickness.
I guess Demin can cover 3's and maybe 2's, while Condon can cover 4-5 and maybe 3's?
Atlanta has #13 and #23. I would trade our pick for those 2 and draft Rasheer Fleming at 13 and at 23 Condon.
Hopefully when trades happen, improve the Portland 2nd and get a late 1st pick for Sergio de Larrea.
I guess Demin can cover 3's and maybe 2's, while Condon can cover 4-5 and maybe 3's?
Atlanta has #13 and #23. I would trade our pick for those 2 and draft Rasheer Fleming at 13 and at 23 Condon.
Hopefully when trades happen, improve the Portland 2nd and get a late 1st pick for Sergio de Larrea.

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Spates wrote:RoteSchroder wrote:Spates wrote:
Okay, I'll put you on my homework list too.
Just hit me with a time mark if you’re watching highlights and notice an elite pass
From what I’ve seen it’s pretty basic. A majority of it includes passing to the roller, drive and kick, swinging the ball on the perimeter, high low feeds, finding cutters, etc.
It’s great that he can do it all and his passes are crisp and quick, definitely above average, but it’s also not particularly special. On top of that, the ability to score is a vital part of playmaking.
On our team, the fit is even worse, we need elite scoring and defense. There’s nothing he can do that isn’t already being done.
I'll hit you with a time mark when I find the right clips.
That said, it's not so much about degree of difficulty passes with Demin. It's more about his ability to probe with a live dribble to create passing lanes and set-up teammates. Paired with his height, he can make a wide variety of passes.
He's 18 and incredibly gifted. Still needs strength, refinement and a solid 3pt shot. Such great potential.
I see him as Giddey with worse passing but with more confidence in his shot. Giddey right now is struggling to be an truly impact player on a winning team so I'm not sure if I'm ready to take him over some other talents if we're 6-7. He's best if he can have the ball in his hands but isn't a great scorer/shooter nor does he have a great handle. If he's asked to play off ball he loses a lot of his appeal
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How would you guys compare Ware to Malauch as prospects? Ware went 15 last year and Khaman is mocked top 12 everywhere with him climbing
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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:How would you guys compare Ware to Malauch as prospects? Ware went 15 last year and Khaman is mocked top 12 everywhere with him climbing
I guess their freshman seasons are comparable and Maluach should transfer to say Illinois or UConn.
I can see Maluach in the teens but could be drafted by Chicago or San Antontio.

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:How would you guys compare Ware to Malauch as prospects? Ware went 15 last year and Khaman is mocked top 12 everywhere with him climbing
Overall Maluach's freshman season is far more impressive/impactful than Ware's (though in fairness Ware was stuck behind N'Faly Dante for much of the season - really annoying, as I was really high on Ware going into his freshman season). Maluach has flashed much better finishing, motor and defence, but Ware was the more accomplished shooter at the same stage.
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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Spates wrote:RoteSchroder wrote:
Just hit me with a time mark if you’re watching highlights and notice an elite pass
From what I’ve seen it’s pretty basic. A majority of it includes passing to the roller, drive and kick, swinging the ball on the perimeter, high low feeds, finding cutters, etc.
It’s great that he can do it all and his passes are crisp and quick, definitely above average, but it’s also not particularly special. On top of that, the ability to score is a vital part of playmaking.
On our team, the fit is even worse, we need elite scoring and defense. There’s nothing he can do that isn’t already being done.
I'll hit you with a time mark when I find the right clips.
That said, it's not so much about degree of difficulty passes with Demin. It's more about his ability to probe with a live dribble to create passing lanes and set-up teammates. Paired with his height, he can make a wide variety of passes.
He's 18 and incredibly gifted. Still needs strength, refinement and a solid 3pt shot. Such great potential.
I see him as Giddey with worse passing but with more confidence in his shot. Giddey right now is struggling to be an truly impact player on a winning team so I'm not sure if I'm ready to take him over some other talents if we're 6-7. He's best if he can have the ball in his hands but isn't a great scorer/shooter nor does he have a great handle. If he's asked to play off ball he loses a lot of his appeal
Giddey seems like a good example of why you don't want a guy with only passing as a strength or why it's desirable to get a wing with better scoring ability
Demin seems to miss a lot under defensive pressure, both in and outside of the 3 point arc. His catch and shoot should be ok. His step back off the dribble is kind of slow.
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:How would you guys compare Ware to Malauch as prospects? Ware went 15 last year and Khaman is mocked top 12 everywhere with him climbing
Maluach looks more mobile, but the biggest worry is how fast he can process the game mentally.
Having a high FG% because he mostly just finishes lobs and paint buckets also isn't that exciting. That's what Mogbo did. He needs an opportunity to showcase other offensive abilities.
To me, Maluach looks like a guy who's effective because he's tall, lengthy and athletic, not because he has good b-ball instincts or is great at basketball.
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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:How would you guys compare Ware to Malauch as prospects? Ware went 15 last year and Khaman is mocked top 12 everywhere with him climbing
I was high on Ware even as a freshman at Oregon, and when he transferred I had a great feeling that he would do amazing. He was #1 on my Raptors draft board last season, but the legend Pat Riley saw the same thing and snapped him up at a discount!
Maluach isn’t moving me like Ware did. At 19? Sure. As a top 5 guy? Absolutely not. Taking a rim runner that high is asking to miss on someone better. I think he’ll be a solid 10-15 points, maybe even 10-12 rebounds per game at his peak. But in this class, if I’m taking him that high I’m hoping he has some post moves as a foundation. Joel Embiid looked special at Kansas, but this kid looks just okay to me. Nice lob threat, good rim running, elite defensively.
At his size he should be getting more playing time, and he should be putting up more than 8/6. I think he needs to stay another season in college.
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Maluach, to me, has been one of the more disappointing prospects this season
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Yallbecrazy wrote:CMB with 4 steals, 2 blocks, and 7 orebs today.
What's his NBA role? What's his position? I love the advanced stats, but I see a small ball center.

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God Squad wrote:Yallbecrazy wrote:CMB with 4 steals, 2 blocks, and 7 orebs today.
What's his NBA role? What's his position? I love the advanced stats, but I see a small ball center.
Robert Covington?
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:God Squad wrote:Yallbecrazy wrote:CMB with 4 steals, 2 blocks, and 7 orebs today.
What's his NBA role? What's his position? I love the advanced stats, but I see a small ball center.
Robert Covington?
Do you believe CMB could become a mid-30 % 3-point shooter?

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God Squad wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:God Squad wrote:What's his NBA role? What's his position? I love the advanced stats, but I see a small ball center.
Robert Covington?
Do you believe CMB could become a mid-30 % 3-point shooter?
I do. That’s what this league is all about at this point. His free throws aren’t great, but it’s not horrible either. I could see a RoCo or Josh Hart style career for CMB.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:God Squad wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:Robert Covington?
Do you believe CMB could become a mid-30 % 3-point shooter?
I do. That’s what this league is all about at this point. His free throws aren’t great, but it’s not horrible either. I could see a RoCo or Josh Hart style career for CMB.
He can guard 1-5, but probably better suited for 2-5 and projects as one of, if not the best defensive player in the draft outside of Flagg. Offensively right now he's a small ball centre, but should be able to score pretty easily in the post if switched onto a wing and a lot of 4s too.
I can definitely see him developing a 3, he's just not taking them in college since he would need to be ~40% or so at them to be as effective as he is at the rim, and you would also have your best orebounder nowhere near the basket.
You probably wouldn't be using him as a post scorer the way Sengun or Jokic are used where they can go up against elite centres and still score as your #1 option. That doesn't mean his post game can't be used in mismatches to score or draw double teams and he projects as a good enough passer to hurt teams for doubling him the majority of the time.
He's still older freshman aged, or very young sophomore aged and has a decent handle so there is potential for him to develop that and his shot further.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:God Squad wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:Robert Covington?
Do you believe CMB could become a mid-30 % 3-point shooter?
I do. That’s what this league is all about at this point. His free throws aren’t great, but it’s not horrible either. I could see a RoCo or Josh Hart style career for CMB.
I guess I am higher than most people on CMB because I don't think of positions so much.
Calling him RoCo just looks at one-two things he does well.
CMB is a pretty advanced as playmaker with a 25 USG and 19 AST%. He has higher turnovers this year playing with a young team, but he can make reads well.
He can guard 2-5 in the NBA. I have seen his weight listed at 240 lbs which is heavy, but he has light feet like OG. He can guard pick and roll well. To me he fits the OG body-type and I think under NBA training he keeps his weight around 235 lbs. For me, that 235 lbs 6'7 /6'8 build and crazy defensive metrics is the sweet spot. Strong, good feet and NBA ready body means this 20 year-old can play instant minutes. Watch - OKC is going to trade up for him.
Size and weight wise he is like Draymond Green and his impact on both ends also looks projects well. Draymond is a top end outcome, but he also has potential to be like PJ Washington on Dallas or Jared Vanderbilt who when healthy is a huge two-way value. These are all guys playoff teams target. CMB is unselfish and an intangibles guy all at 20 YO. I think the growth potential is special with him even if the outside shot is slow to develop.