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Dick Tate · Post #1741 » by **Dick Tate** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:01 am

RRyder823 wrote:
Dick Tate wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
His issue with Miami is entirely them saying they will not extend him beyond his player option.

Not entirely. His article about finding joy at the start of the month says he hasn’t been used the way he is since his first few years in the league. He wants to be dominant again.
If you think this isn't about money for Butler i got some beach front property to sell you.

He wants to get paid. And paid by a team that doesn't suck.

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“Not entirely” does not imply an either/or situation.

Frank Nova · Post #1742 » by **Frank Nova** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:03 am

MikeIsGood wrote:Jaime played like **** until January, but he's turned it up since - especially when Jimmy was out. 11/5/4 on 48/44/75 splits in 6 starts, which lines-up to how he played last year. He's a do-it-all player, and he doesn't slouch on D either; this has always been his MO. I loved him at UCLA and Heat fans loved him last year.

He's not been good this year and I am skeptical to be clear, but I think the Heat as a whole are just a mess this year tbh and I don't think Butler is helping things at all. No way I'd trade *for* him, but getting him in a trade would be great.

You gotta take everything Heat related with a grain of salt right now. Bams numbers are way down, you could make a case his regression this season needs a deep dive investigation. His FG% is down to his career low by a wide margin and he’s averaging the same points at age 27 as he did as his 1st year as a full time starter at age 22. There’s merit to Jimmy Butlers situation is ruining the team right now outside of Tyler Herro picking up the slack and Kel’el Ware showing promise as a rookie. Everything else has been inconsistent about that team to put it lightly. I still like Jacquez as a Swiss Army knife wing that plays D. He’s not Khris Middleton but he’s a capable player when he’s locked in. Again, I don’t think anyone besides Herro is really locked in down in South Beach and he’s just benefiting from everyone else looking pedestrian. They’re not exactly steam rolling their schedule.

soxperry · Post #1743 » by **soxperry** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:05 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
soxperry wrote:
JonHeist wrote:I'd rather have Jaquez than Pat

but he's not a needle mover

That's helpful, Randy

He's not wrong, though.

lol.. yeah i'd rather have Jaylen Brown than Khris Middleton.

points for being right!

yb90 · Post #1744 » by **yb90** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:14 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:Deni Avdija remains my dream target. He checks every box.

Mine too but last year was the time to get him when they were not saddled by the 2nd Apron. Horst should've traded Portis to get a pick to add to last years 1st.

To me the closest thing to Deni Avdija is Jake Laravia. He is not as good as Deni but he has really stepped up on both sides of the court. Like Avdija, he has the size to play both forward positions.

SupremeHustle · Post #1745 » by **SupremeHustle** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:20 am

soxperry wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
soxperry wrote:
That's helpful, Randy

He's not wrong, though.

lol.. yeah i'd rather have Jaylen Brown than Khris Middleton.

points for being right!

He shared his opinion that Jaime is not a needle mover. I don't think he's wrong. For some reason that is upsetting to you. Why? I do not know.

tydett · Post #1746 » by **tydett** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:24 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:Deni Avdija remains my dream target. He checks every box.

Last year was the year to try and pry him from Washington, who remains a tragic franchise. Think PDX is smart enough to hold onto him unless they get a king's ransom.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1747 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:37 am

tydett wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Deni Avdija remains my dream target. He checks every box.

Last year was the year to try and pry him from Washington, who remains a tragic franchise. Think PDX is smart enough to hold onto him unless they get a king's ransom.

The problem for Portland is they're stuck in the middle, they have no chance at the playoffs, but win too much to get a high pick. They acquired Avdija a year too early.

soxperry · Post #1748 » by **soxperry** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:41 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
soxperry wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
He's not wrong, though.

lol.. yeah i'd rather have Jaylen Brown than Khris Middleton.

points for being right!

He shared his opinion that Jaime is not a needle mover. I don't think he's wrong. For some reason that is upsetting to you. Why? I do not know.

lol no one's upset. i just found it amusing.

edit: and to clarify, i also dont think Jacquez is a needle mover, nor does anyone else. my amusement was due to the obviousness of his original statement which my analogy must have done a poor job explaining.

SupremeHustle · Post #1749 » by **SupremeHustle** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:43 am

soxperry wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
soxperry wrote:
lol.. yeah i'd rather have Jaylen Brown than Khris Middleton.

points for being right!

He shared his opinion that Jaime is not a needle mover. I don't think he's wrong. For some reason that is upsetting to you. Why? I do not know.

lol no one's upset. i just found it amusing.

Okay, good. Because that would be weird. My apologies for the misinterpretation.

-Jragon- · Post #1750 » by **-Jragon-** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:48 am

Play style matters.. can Jaquez create chaos, deflectiions, stops and thereby play fast break style basketball with our 2 superstars that thrive in that style of play? Never really watched him but that's what I want to know. Basically can he be what AJJ is but less spazzy and a better shooter? That's what we need. Timely cuts to the basket after brush screens? That's what we need, not what Bobby and KM do; we done with the 90s bball

Wisky4life · Post #1751 » by **Wisky4life** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:53 am

Ugly but would you all take Beal over Middleton, if we joined in on that Butler mess.

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ShootingtheJ · Post #1752 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:11 am

-Jragon- wrote:Play style matters.. can Jaquez create chaos, deflectiions, stops and thereby play fast break style basketball with our 2 superstars that thrive in that style of play? Never really watched him but that's what I want to know. Basically can he be what AJJ is but less spazzy and a better shooter? That's what we need. Timely cuts to the basket after brush screens? That's what we need, not what Bobby and KM do; we done with the 90s bball

Giannis is the only star we have that thrives in fast breaks. Dame is walk it up, and pound the ball 90s style all day. Doc is working to break him of those habits. Besides last game, Khris is the one who pushes the ball up the court.

No, Jaquez is none of those things. Jaquez can attack the basket some, and that's about it.

RiotPunch · Post #1753 » by **RiotPunch** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:13 am

MKE: Butler, Jaquez
MIA: Brown, Portis, Connaughton, Wright, MKE '31 1st (swap rights)
DET: Middleton, Beauchamp
TOR: Hardaway Jr, Fontecchio, TOR '25 2nd returned

ShootingtheJ · Post #1754 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:13 am

Wisky4life wrote:Ugly but would you all take Beal over Middleton, if we joined in on that Butler mess.

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Beal is replacement level player now, who would he play ahead of here?

jschligs · Post #1755 » by **jschligs** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:32 am

Heard Myles Turner wants 30m for his next contract and Indy ain't willing to do it.

A. Would we want to give him that?
B. Would we have any avenue to get him? (My initial thoughts are no).

-Jragon- · Post #1756 » by **-Jragon-** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:37 am

My bingo card didn't include Giannis becoming functional at all 3 of: low post, pick and roll rim runner and ft shooter.. it also didn't include Dame becoming a triple double machine type. These mfers changing their whole game to win this with each other. Horst, do your magic and surround them with guys who have grit on D, can shoot and can play fast.

Baddy Chuck · Post #1757 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:39 am

jschligs wrote:Heard Myles Turner wants 30m for his next contract and Indy ain't willing to do it.

A. Would we want to give him that?
B. Would we have any avenue to get him? (My initial thoughts are no).

The cap is going to balloon during coming years, 30 million isn't that bad.

tedbrogen · Post #1758 » by **tedbrogen** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:49 am

jschligs wrote:Heard Myles Turner wants 30m for his next contract and Indy ain't willing to do it.

A. Would we want to give him that?
B. Would we have any avenue to get him? (My initial thoughts are no).

Brook + Bobby make $35.5M combined. Turner being able to full switch and space makes it worth it to give him that if they’d could trade for him. Doubt the Pacers send him to the Bucks though.

-Jragon- · Post #1759 » by **-Jragon-** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:49 am

PSA for everyone that still criticizes Dame.. it was cute but you have been officially proven wrong now. His points, assists and TS% are almost all the same or even better than in 2017 and 2018 when he was 4th and 6th in MVP voting. He's at 25 ppg, 7+ apg, and .622 TS% which is all great. He's been here less than 2 yrs and made 2 all star teams. He's in the conversation already of being a top 3 all time Bucks point guard. Oscar/Sam/Dame... what other PG made 2 all star games with us? Sam has more years in and got us to the ECF.. Jrue has a ring but doesn't have the numbers. A finals appearance would put Dame top 2, I think.

-Jragon- · Post #1760 » by **-Jragon-** » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:54 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Wisky4life wrote:Ugly but would you all take Beal over Middleton, if we joined in on that Butler mess.

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Beal is replacement level player now, who would he play ahead of here?

I don't get why you say things like this. Bradley Beal is averaging 17ppg and hitting 40% from 3... his TS% is .582... at worst he's a very rich man's Malik B. If you go with KM at the deadline I won't be mad.