John Collins for Miles Bridges

[Texas Chuck]

What are you on about?

Kyries history impacts his trade value and would be pertinent in a thread about trading him. Pants dj would have no relevance.

This isn't hard nor is it personal about the hornets.

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[SkyHook]

Also, it’s getting incredibly boring and stale to keep using the logic that Charlotte would be thrilled to dump Bridges over charges that are 3 years old at this point. If that had any bearing whatsoever on anything, he would be gone by now.

Didn't say that. Obviously it doesn't bother Charlotte. They paid him a ton of money bidding against nobody.

But I would disagree its not a factor to some other teams. Especially since he's not good enough to justify that.

Who determines what team it’s a factor for? You? Is it a factor for the Jazz with their giant Malone statue out front? Would it be a factor for Dallas, the entire front office full of sleazebags and a wifebeater coach?

It’s such a wholly uninteresting point that has nothing to do with the idea of the board

Plenty of Jazz fans want to see that statue melted down. I absolutely lost respect for him once I learned the name Demetress Bell. My first post on RealGM was how I would rather see DeShawn Stevenson in a prison uniform rather than a Jazz one after the revelation that he celebrated getting drafted by statutory raping a young girl he had known since she was a toddler.

I'm as guilty of homer-tinted valuations of players as anyone else, but any on-court fandom doesn't supersede basic human decency for me. Your standards may be different, but it's naive to think that this isn't part of the calculus for at least some front offices.

[KembaWalker]

What are you on about?

Kyries history impacts his trade value and would be pertinent in a thread about trading him. Pants dj would have no relevance.

This isn't hard nor is it personal about the hornets.

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You said it’s relevant for some teams, so who decides which ones? If someone suggests a trade and they say “no because my team isn’t going to take on that baggage” is that a point that I’m allowed to debate by analyzing their teams current and historical baggage to determine if that’s a justified statement, like I would be able to do if someone said a fit on the court would be poor? Or is it just a boring conversation killing point that adds nothing to the discussion? You’re dodging the question here, although I’m guessing I wouldn’t last very long doing so.

Seems like you (and others) would prefer to swoop in, perform a little moral grandstand in the most uninspired possible way, and leave. By all means, don’t let me interrupt the charade but it’s just really stale after 3 years

[hugepatsfan]

I'd rather send Green + Micić (expiring) plus 33 & 34. If Ainge insists on one 1st for Collins, or considers 33 & 34 not equivalent to a 1st, that's fine. I'm out.

Keeping Miles Bridges though. Contract goes down to 25 next year, 22 the year after.

Jazz just traded 3 1sts to consolidate for a single one. They have too many picks. They are unlikely to value multiple 2nd over a single 1st. They don’t have the roster spots for that many picks.

[MasterIchiro]

I'd rather send Green + Micić (expiring) plus 33 & 34. If Ainge insists on one 1st for Collins, or considers 33 & 34 not equivalent to a 1st, that's fine. I'm out.

Keeping Miles Bridges though. Contract goes down to 25 next year, 22 the year after.

Jazz just traded 3 1sts to consolidate for a single one. They have too many picks. They are unlikely to value multiple 2nd over a single 1st. They don’t have the roster spots for that many picks.

Not sure Jazz can get a distant 1st for Collins.

But distant 2nds? A more realistic asking price.

Either way, their current roster crunch can be managed if draft capital is distant. They just traded 2025, 2027, 2029 for 2031.

[Texas Chuck]

What are you on about?

Kyries history impacts his trade value and would be pertinent in a thread about trading him. Pants dj would have no relevance.

This isn't hard nor is it personal about the hornets.

Sent from my SM-A156U using RealGM mobile app

You said it’s relevant for some teams, so who decides which ones? If someone suggests a trade and they say “no because my team isn’t going to take on that baggage” is that a point that I’m allowed to debate by analyzing their teams current and historical baggage to determine if that’s a justified statement, like I would be able to do if someone said a fit on the court would be poor? Or is it just a boring conversation killing point that adds nothing to the discussion? You’re dodging the question here, although I’m guessing I wouldn’t last very long doing so.

Seems like you (and others) would prefer to swoop in, perform a little moral grandstand in the most uninspired possible way, and leave. By all means, don’t let me interrupt the charade but it’s just really stale after 3 years

There was no moral stand. But I can't pretend that doesn't matter. Look at all the Butler threads and how his value is impacted by how he's acting. Bridges doesn't get a pass because it upsets you. And yes, you can argue a team wouldn't care about Bridges baggage.

You also don't have to think its relevant at all. But I am still allowed to think it is.



Now can we move on?

[KembaWalker]

What are you on about?

Kyries history impacts his trade value and would be pertinent in a thread about trading him. Pants dj would have no relevance.

This isn't hard nor is it personal about the hornets.

Sent from my SM-A156U using RealGM mobile app

You said it’s relevant for some teams, so who decides which ones? If someone suggests a trade and they say “no because my team isn’t going to take on that baggage” is that a point that I’m allowed to debate by analyzing their teams current and historical baggage to determine if that’s a justified statement, like I would be able to do if someone said a fit on the court would be poor? Or is it just a boring conversation killing point that adds nothing to the discussion? You’re dodging the question here, although I’m guessing I wouldn’t last very long doing so.

Seems like you (and others) would prefer to swoop in, perform a little moral grandstand in the most uninspired possible way, and leave. By all means, don’t let me interrupt the charade but it’s just really stale after 3 years

There was no moral stand. But I can't pretend that doesn't matter. Look at all the Butler threads and how his value is impacted by how he's acting. Bridges doesn't get a pass because it upsets you. And yes, you can argue a team wouldn't care about Bridges baggage.

You also don't have to think its relevant at all. But I am still allowed to think it is.



Now can we move on?

Great, I'm looking forward to the next Bridges trade thread. I hope a Mavs fan specifically declares their team would never stoop to such lows as pursuing a player like Miles as a way of arguing a trade, now that I have mod permission to explore that rabbit hole in its complete depth. I'm happy to move on until then. Have a good one