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2025 NBA Draft

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Trade 1 of our picks for a Player
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24%
Trade both of our picks for Player
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39%
Trade both of our picks to move up in the draft
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20%
Trade our picks for future 1sts
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2%
Draft as is
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15%
 
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#21 » by anothermagicfan » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:38 pm

It's so hard to even think about the draft now. I think we have to do something to clean up the payroll first. Cole and WCJ are making way too much for what they provide but I doubt rookies will replace what they do provide.

I'd love to see us get some real help with the ball handling. We're the team with the intense defense yet everyone else puts full court pressure on us. I'd love to see Schroeder in Coles roster spot for similar money.

I still really like what Goga is for us and I like Moe for what he is for us most of the time but I still feel like we're missing something in the 5 spot. If only we could get Myles Turner. Of course those guys definitely wouldn't help the salary cap situation but hey a guy can dream right?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#22 » by eyriq » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:44 pm

anothermagicfan wrote:It's so hard to even think about the draft now. I think we have to do something to clean up the payroll first. Cole and WCJ are making way too much for what they provide but I doubt rookies will replace what they do provide.

I'd love to see us get some real help with the ball handling. We're the team with the intense defense yet everyone else puts full court pressure on us. I'd love to see Schroeder in Coles roster spot for similar money.

I still really like what Goga is for us and I like Moe for what he is for us most of the time but I still feel like we're missing something in the 5 spot. If only we could get Myles Turner. Of course those guys definitely wouldn't help the salary cap situation but hey a guy can dream right?
I don't see a rotation slot getting filled by a rookie next session outside of injuries.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#23 » by RookieStar » Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:46 pm

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Orlando Dawg wrote:Draft another point guard … 18th,25th

Cut Jett Howard (bust)
and Cory Joseph (veteran min journeyman)

Unless they get a good deal that allows them to trade Anthony Black + picks

They draft ok overall but Magic have to make up for the failed 2023 draft.


Too soon to tell. I mean AB has shown more promise than what Suggs has shown their respective 2 years... and it was the 3rd year that Suggs showed us he belongs

people have no patience anymore, they want prospects to be the best version of themselves in their first few seasons....as if they don't remember how long JJ redick took.....how long AG took......how long Cole is taking right now....can't give up on these guys too early, dipo comes to mind.....that being said if a deal is there that significantly helps the team then we can look at that


Exactly. People here got spoiled with Franz and Paolo. 20-21yr old non-developed NBA body and expecting starter numbers already.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#24 » by RookieStar » Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:47 pm

eyriq wrote:
anothermagicfan wrote:It's so hard to even think about the draft now. I think we have to do something to clean up the payroll first. Cole and WCJ are making way too much for what they provide but I doubt rookies will replace what they do provide.

I'd love to see us get some real help with the ball handling. We're the team with the intense defense yet everyone else puts full court pressure on us. I'd love to see Schroeder in Coles roster spot for similar money.

I still really like what Goga is for us and I like Moe for what he is for us most of the time but I still feel like we're missing something in the 5 spot. If only we could get Myles Turner. Of course those guys definitely wouldn't help the salary cap situation but hey a guy can dream right?
I don't see a rotation slot getting filled by a rookie next session outside of injuries.


If so... then a 7ft we are developing is the only spot I could see a rookie filling in for us next season.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#25 » by Idiosyncratic » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:09 pm

RookieStar wrote:
eyriq wrote:
anothermagicfan wrote:It's so hard to even think about the draft now. I think we have to do something to clean up the payroll first. Cole and WCJ are making way too much for what they provide but I doubt rookies will replace what they do provide.

I'd love to see us get some real help with the ball handling. We're the team with the intense defense yet everyone else puts full court pressure on us. I'd love to see Schroeder in Coles roster spot for similar money.

I still really like what Goga is for us and I like Moe for what he is for us most of the time but I still feel like we're missing something in the 5 spot. If only we could get Myles Turner. Of course those guys definitely wouldn't help the salary cap situation but hey a guy can dream right?
I don't see a rotation slot getting filled by a rookie next session outside of injuries.


If so... then a 7ft we are developing is the only spot I could see a rookie filling in for us next season.


A big to step in when Goga and Mo expire makes a ton of sense for sure.

I think 2 picks will be used. I don't expect either to instantly be in the rotation, but injuries happen. I don't know which one's but they are going to be right near the luxury tax next year ( especially if they bring back Mo) with 3 roster spots still to fill so I think they will maybe even use a 2nd rounder. They can obviosuly make some slight tweaks with trade, but you still are going to be bringing simillar salary back.

Makes me wonder if they might work harder than we think to move Cole at the deadline. But for an expiring so they have some breathing room in the offseason.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#26 » by VFX » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:41 pm

Don't really care. I just know Danny Wolf from Michigan is getting selected to be a 3rd/4th string Center with the Denver pick.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#27 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:44 pm

I chose draft as is to enrage all of you.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#28 » by OnlyFranz22 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:07 pm

Thomas Sorber is gonna be a stud
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#29 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:25 pm

they're going to make both picks and be used to replace Gary + Caleb on our 14 man roster....
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#30 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:27 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:they're going to make both picks and be used to replace Gary + Caleb on our 14 man roster....


You cracked the code sir!
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#31 » by three3d » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:28 pm

VFX wrote:Don't really care. I just know Danny Wolf from Michigan is getting selected to be a 3rd/4th string Center with the Denver pick.



Lol Wolf is intriguing, I’ve heard I’m referred to as “The Jewish Jokic “ 7 footer that can pass and handle the ball like that is intriguing. His fg% for some games look really bad and some games they look amazing. Not sure how he’s translates to the NBA level but we all know this FO will consider him just off being a Michigan player alone :lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#32 » by Idiosyncratic » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:50 pm

OnlyFranz22 wrote:Thomas Sorber is gonna be a stud


I like him quite a bit. Don't think he will make it to us though, would be an auto pick for me if he did. He should be in the lotto.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#33 » by OrlandoNed » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:55 pm

WTF do we need 2 more rookies for? Do what we should of done in '23 and trade the picks for a difference maker.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#34 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:02 pm

OrlandoNed wrote:WTF do we need 2 more rookies for? Do what we should of done in '23 and trade the picks for a difference maker.



not when you've backed yourself so far into the corner with this limited roster. You now need cheap bodies unless this FO/Ownership wants to pay the tax.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#35 » by three3d » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:06 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
OrlandoNed wrote:WTF do we need 2 more rookies for? Do what we should of done in '23 and trade the picks for a difference maker.



not when you've backed yourself so far into the corner with this limited roster. You now need cheap bodies unless this FO/Ownership wants to pay the tax.



The most frustrating thing is looking at this roster and saying ,” how the hell are we even approaching cap limit ?” Like how do the Celtics, Lakers, Clippers , Knicks afford those rosters and we’re looking at Paolo and Franz and saying crap how do we add to this.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#36 » by OrlandoNed » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:12 pm

three3d wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
OrlandoNed wrote:WTF do we need 2 more rookies for? Do what we should of done in '23 and trade the picks for a difference maker.



not when you've backed yourself so far into the corner with this limited roster. You now need cheap bodies unless this FO/Ownership wants to pay the tax.



The most frustrating thing is looking at this roster and saying ,” how the hell are we even approaching cap limit ?” Like how do the Celtics, Lakers, Clippers , Knicks afford those rosters and we’re looking at Paolo and Franz and saying crap how do we add to this.

Because we are obsessed with this 'family' Disney culture BS instead of running this team like an actually sports franchise.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#37 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:18 pm

OrlandoNed wrote:
three3d wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:

not when you've backed yourself so far into the corner with this limited roster. You now need cheap bodies unless this FO/Ownership wants to pay the tax.



The most frustrating thing is looking at this roster and saying ,” how the hell are we even approaching cap limit ?” Like how do the Celtics, Lakers, Clippers , Knicks afford those rosters and we’re looking at Paolo and Franz and saying crap how do we add to this.

Because we are obsessed with this 'family' Disney culture BS instead of running this team like an actually sports franchise.


I mean those teams also are big markets where FA want to end up. They're all also paying Tax which is something Orlando will have to figure out. Are they willing to pay tax or do they cap themselves right under and hope they hit on a disgruntled star that wants to come to Orlando over the big markets.

Clippers- 5+M
Lakers- 30+M
Celtics- 30+M
Knicks- 10M
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#38 » by three3d » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:19 pm

OrlandoNed wrote:
three3d wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:

not when you've backed yourself so far into the corner with this limited roster. You now need cheap bodies unless this FO/Ownership wants to pay the tax.



The most frustrating thing is looking at this roster and saying ,” how the hell are we even approaching cap limit ?” Like how do the Celtics, Lakers, Clippers , Knicks afford those rosters and we’re looking at Paolo and Franz and saying crap how do we add to this.

Because we are obsessed with this 'family' Disney culture BS instead of running this team like an actually sports franchise.


Lol agreed . But I’ll also say the NBA’s salary cap and apron are a joke. Specifically when it comes to
Players you’ve drafted and having the ability to resign them to contracts they have earned and getting free agents. It punishes teams that do what they want them to do, build through the draft. It feels like you get punished if you get lucky and hit on multiple players that get max contracts..
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Post#39 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:21 pm

three3d wrote:
OrlandoNed wrote:
three3d wrote:

The most frustrating thing is looking at this roster and saying ,” how the hell are we even approaching cap limit ?” Like how do the Celtics, Lakers, Clippers , Knicks afford those rosters and we’re looking at Paolo and Franz and saying crap how do we add to this.

Because we are obsessed with this 'family' Disney culture BS instead of running this team like an actually sports franchise.


Lol agreed . But I’ll also say the NBA’s salary cap and apron are a joke. Specifically when it comes to
Players you’ve drafted and having the ability to resign them to contracts they have earned and getting free agents. It punishes teams that do what they want them to do, build through the draft. It feels like you get punished if you get lucky and hit on multiple players that get max contracts..


yup, you've got an extremely small window to win a title unless you're in a big market and can buy one. Orlando likely has 2 years after Paolo's extension to push for that.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#40 » by Idiosyncratic » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:21 pm

three3d wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
OrlandoNed wrote:WTF do we need 2 more rookies for? Do what we should of done in '23 and trade the picks for a difference maker.



not when you've backed yourself so far into the corner with this limited roster. You now need cheap bodies unless this FO/Ownership wants to pay the tax.



The most frustrating thing is looking at this roster and saying ,” how the hell are we even approaching cap limit ?” Like how do the Celtics, Lakers, Clippers , Knicks afford those rosters and we’re looking at Paolo and Franz and saying crap how do we add to this.


Wendell and Caldwell-Pope signings mostly were just mediocre moves that ate up all wiggle room for creativity. That plus building longterm around 3 huge contracts in current NBA is hard.

It's doable though they just gotta be smart. For instance when Paolo's extension kicks in I have them around 190 mil for 8 players (if they decline Jett's option) in 26/27. If Paolo all-nbas next year they would be at like 200 for 8 players I think. 1st apron is at 215 mil then. That's assuming they don't make any picks the next two years.

So 25 million for 7 spots. To me that seems really really rough without rookie contracts on board. That's why I personally still value picks. There's a point where you go all-in down the line with a trade for sure though and eat the 2nd apron for a year. But just generally speaking they are probably going to need some rookie contracts no matter what. Can hit on 2nd rounders and undrafted guys too, who knows.

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