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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#201 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:14 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:While I’d obviously love it, it would legit spook the hell out of me having talked about the OG, Towns, Mikal and now Kessler+Sexton deals well in advance to the point that people were annoyed of it on this board and in real life :lol: it would be the perfect deal for us, there really isn’t much else out there.


Unless Mitch is truly cooked in terms of staying healthy...you are giving up too much defense in that trade. That deal would rely on Kessler becoming an absolute STUD rim protector in this offense. I mean its possible but the deal has some risk to it.

You’d instantly fall in love with Sexton, especially if you value what Hart does. I like McBride too, but you could look at it this way: he’s actually everything we really give up on that deal… and do you know how old Sexton is?


Does Sexton defend now?
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#202 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:33 pm

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Unless Mitch is truly cooked in terms of staying healthy...you are giving up too much defense in that trade. That deal would rely on Kessler becoming an absolute STUD rim protector in this offense. I mean its possible but the deal has some risk to it.

You’d instantly fall in love with Sexton, especially if you value what Hart does. I like McBride too, but you could look at it this way: he’s actually everything we really give up on that deal… and do you know how old Sexton is?


Does Sexton defend now?

The numbers certainly don’t say so, but he sure leaves it all on the court. From watching the games, I think he does look good on defense.

Again, he turned 26 two weeks ago, so he won’t lose his athleticism anytime soon and he’s a hard-nosed competitor à la Josh Hart.
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Post#203 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:44 pm

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I thought about this…
If your going to punt then the way to do it would be to try to acquire some future draft capital to open up future trade possibilities.
Not advocating for it but the move would be:
Mitch and one of Payne/Sims to Phoenix for Nurkic and the ‘27 and ‘29 first round picks that Phoenix just acquired.

I think Phx would have to know Robinson was healthy but this gets them out of the the 2/37m left on Nurkic deal, gets them a center who fits and reduces their luxury tax bill.

For NYK to make this work they’d need to incorporate Achiuwa for a minimum (Seth curry?) but the long term the Knicks would have almost a full cupboard of future draft assets.

25 Washington
26 own
27 lesser of CLE/Utah/Minn
28 own (subject to swap
29 lesser of CLE/Utah/Minn
30 own
32 own

All you’re missing is the 31 pick from having no trade restrictions at all.

They’d go into the summer with Nurkic 18m expiring deal and tradeable first round picks.. pretty decent package to land an impact player.

For the rest of this season they have Nurkic spelling KAT and Seth Curry in the Payne role.

I’m not saying to do it, but I’m saying if you want to punt - then the goal would be to alleviate the Stepian rule complications.


I would love to do that but unfortunately Mitch will likely have to show he is healthy for an extended period to have any value which is part of the reason i'd rather wait until the off-season to make a move to get better and i'm not even sure if healthy Mitch has the value to bring in 2 firsts with his injury history. The young guys can't touch the court so their value is diminishing.

Trading Mitch or the young guys at this point would be selling low and I would expect a low return. Trading guys like Payne and Precious at this point would be selling high imo on their limited value as they likely won't have any trade value this off-season since they won't be under contract. I don't know how much of a step back the team would take moving them.

Payne fluctuates from a bench player that plays 2 halves to 1.5 halves to 1 half because Thibs is going to Thibs. If a soon to be 24 year old Kolek absorbed that 5-15 minute role or Deuce and Shamet absorbed his minutes i'm not sure how big of a drop off it would be. Payne has performed far better than I expected but Thibs hasn't shown much faith in most of the bench no matter what.

Precious provides someone that can give you minutes at the 4 and the 5 but the last time Mitch was healthy Precious fell out of the rotation completely. You never know with Thibs if he will keep him in the rotation this year if Mitch returns. Both Cam and Precious could easily begin the playoffs out of the rotation just as they both did last year. I would love to get something of value for them while I could.


Good point on Precious going out of the rotation once Mitch is back.

On the other hand, Precious provides solid, if nothing spectacular, depth off the bench, particularly injury insurance.

Still, you'd have to think that either Precious or Sims are trade bait IF the Knicks think Mitch can come back healthy.

Either player isn't going to fetch much, but I guess a player like Cam Whitmore or D Green could be had and might help the wing situation, even if it would be better if either was taller.

I don't think they move Payne because I think they want the bench depth, Kolek isn't ready and Deuce isn't a PG.

Payne they let expire and let Kolek take the job next year.


We need a backup for OG unless we plan on playing Precious 30 mpg
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#204 » by BowlRips » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:44 pm

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Until he signs a new contract or is traded to another team.. I'm always going to connect him to the Knicks. Why? Cause the Leon Rose front office has shown, is that when they want to acquire someone they do.

His salary this season is $19.9m so it would take Mitch and either a) Deuce and Dadiet or b) Achiuwa to match.

Mitch/Achiuwa and the Washington pick doesn't sound like enough to land Turner..

or maybe it could be Mitch Achiuwa and Deuce for Turner and (insert guard/wing making less then 5.1m)

Nevertheless, it remains something to watch
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Post#205 » by RHODEY » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:48 pm

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Post#206 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:55 pm

Utah is looking more and more like they’re ready to hand the keys to Collier and they also have George. I’m telling you, it’s going down. We just can’t accept Clarkson, it has to be Sexton along with Kessler.
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Post#207 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:02 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:Utah is looking more and more like they’re ready to hand the keys to Collier and they also have George. I’m telling you, it’s going down. We just can’t accept Clarkson, it has to be Sexton along with Kessler.


If it happens, I think Dadiet is included.

Knicks featuring Okeke a lot in the G-League, feel like they are getting a long look before putting Dadiet in a trade.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#208 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:19 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:Utah is looking more and more like they’re ready to hand the keys to Collier and they also have George. I’m telling you, it’s going down. We just can’t accept Clarkson, it has to be Sexton along with Kessler.


If it happens, I think Dadiet is included.

Knicks featuring Okeke a lot in the G-League, feel like they are getting a long look before putting Dadiet in a trade.

I’d do it and overpay on that deal.

Kessler is 23, averages a double-double at 11 & 11 with 2.4 bpg, which is third in the league.

Sexton just turned 26 and he’s shooting 40% from three, 47 FG% overall. What more could you ever ask for?

Kessler / Towns / Achiuwa
Towns / Achiuwa / OG
OG / Hart / Bridges
Bridges / Hart / Sexton
Brunson / Sexton / Payne

I mean, this is easily the deepest team in the league… that is insane.
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Post#209 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:35 pm

I see that the Sixers may be shopping Yabusele. He could be an excellent backup to OG and would probably only cost a couple second round picks.
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Post#210 » by sol537 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:44 pm

Mitch, Deuce, Payne, and Dadiet

for

Sexton, Kessler, filler

I could see it...
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Post#211 » by WargamesX » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:34 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:I see that the Sixers may be shopping Yabusele. He could be an excellent backup to OG and would probably only cost a couple second round picks.


Makes sense the 76ers to me is a prime team to sell on role players. They should tank and try to keep their pick this year.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#212 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:49 pm

WargamesX wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:I see that the Sixers may be shopping Yabusele. He could be an excellent backup to OG and would probably only cost a couple second round picks.


Makes sense the 76ers to me is a prime team to sell on role players. They should tank and try to keep their pick this year.

I think that’s the game plan though what can they do with Embiid?
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#213 » by WargamesX » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:51 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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HarthorneWingo wrote:I see that the Sixers may be shopping Yabusele. He could be an excellent backup to OG and would probably only cost a couple second round picks.


Makes sense the 76ers to me is a prime team to sell on role players. They should tank and try to keep their pick this year.

I think that’s the game plan though what can they do with Embiid?


More like what can they do without Embiid?
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#214 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:02 am

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Makes sense the 76ers to me is a prime team to sell on role players. They should tank and try to keep their pick this year.

I think that’s the game plan though what can they do with Embiid?


More like what can they do without Embiid?

You think he’s washed?
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#215 » by WargamesX » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:08 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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HarthorneWingo wrote:I think that’s the game plan though what can they do with Embiid?


More like what can they do without Embiid?

You think he’s washed?


I think he is injury prone and this is one of those seasons and he can't get his health right.

They got a few core pieces and should look to see their roleplayers
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Post#216 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:29 am

sol537 wrote:Mitch, Deuce, Payne, and Dadiet

for

Sexton, Kessler, filler

I could see it...


Not a chance.

NBA insider Marc Stein reported that Kessler, “is believed to [be] as close to unavailable as it gets with less than 10 days to go before the trade deadline.”
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Post#217 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:53 am

Orlando Brown ex Heat has had a couple of solid games for Toronto on a 10 day.

After last night it looks like Knicks don't need anything but if Sims was traded, Brown looks like a legit big C who can be signed for cheap. Rim runner and rim protector with a three.
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Post#218 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:01 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Orlando Brown ex Heat has had a couple of solid games for Toronto on a 10 day.

After last night it looks like Knicks don't need anything but if Sims was traded, Brown looks like a legit big C who can be signed for cheap. Rim runner and rim protector with a three.


Better than Hukporti?
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Post#219 » by R-DAWG » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:10 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:Reputations don't mean isht if they're not supportable. Sexton is a very efficient 1/2 who is not impactful enough to be a #1 or #2 guy on a championship team, but who is almost note perfect for a 6th man role on a stacked roster like the Knicks.

Plus he's hyper intense and bought-in, so he would LOVE playing for this team. I've liked him as a buy-low option for a few years now.

But that deal would obviously never happen. :lol:


I agree with this. Sexton is a microwave scorer off the bench. He can get to the basket and shoot the 3. It’s a role the Knkcks need to fill. You wish he was a little bigger and better suited to play SG with Brunson, but beggars can’t be choosers.

If, and it’s a huge if, you can turn Mitch, the Utah Pick and some combination of Dadiet/Kolek (I don’t see why Utah would want Duce, who’s a solid 7th man with limited upside) you almost have to do it.

I just don’t see Ainge doing this at this point. Having said that, Sextons value is likely a pair of 2nds and Kesslers value could tank if he can’t agree to an extension in the offseason or gets overpaid.
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Post#220 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:13 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:Orlando Brown ex Heat has had a couple of solid games for Toronto on a 10 day.

After last night it looks like Knicks don't need anything but if Sims was traded, Brown looks like a legit big C who can be signed for cheap. Rim runner and rim protector with a three.


Better than Hukporti?


Hard to judge Hukporti when he barely plays. I like him long term, it just seems like Brown is a veteran who can just plug in. Not sure though
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