2025 OFFSEASON

[vvoland]

Hated the process, but the result seems to have worked out. Of course, if Saleh leaves again next year, and after a playoff run, we could be back to square one. But that's a future problem, and at least we'd get two third-round picks to soften the blow. For now, glad we have a competent coordinator back.

Agree with the comments that people would like to see some more substantial changes. Though in Shanahan's case, I wouldn't mind seeing some reversion. We really went away from the play action and screen game this season, and I'd like to see us get back to more of that. Our OL and Purdy both seem to struggle in the pure dropback game (one may be heavily influenced by the other).

Don't love that Shanahan is so insular in terms of the coaching pool he's willing to work with. It really limits our options.

My understanding (per a podcast I was listening to this morning) is that Salah would need to coach 2 years before we get comp picks if he gets a HC gig. So if he leaves after 1 good season, we get nothing.

[Samurai]

Hope he can turn things around. Statmuse ranked the Jets special teams as five spots worse than the Niners this past season, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the coach and how much is due to injuries/player mistakes or how to make sense out of ST stats. I do know that Moody had the 2nd worse FG% among all full-time kickers, Wish has battled injuries and we didn't get our money's worth on him last season, we haven't returned a kickoff for a TD since 2018 or a punt return for a TD since 2011, allowed a blocked punt and got embarrassed on a fake punt so Boyer will have his work cut out for him.

I hated the Moody pick, and that was when I expected him to be a good kicker. What we've seen lately is...dispiriting. But I watched a YouTube video that looked into some of his kicking issues, and it did appear that his holder toward the end of the year - Wishnewski's injury replacement Pat O'Donnell - was not doing a good job of holding. He regularly had the ball at a weird angle, that could have been the cause of some of Wish's kicking woes. Still, just not sure how that guy returns after what we saw at the end of last year.

He definitely can't return without any sort of legitimate competition.

I can buy an argument that he's under contract so might as well bring him in camp to see if he works out his kinks and just have an open competition for the spot. I'll play devil's advocate but maybe he never fully got over his ankle injury and his holder wasn't the best at setting him up.

Personally I think we should move on because even before this season he wasn't as clutch as you liked him to be and we're always going to be nervous everytime he goes out and kicks.

I could see Moody returning to camp and facing some type of legit competition during pre-season; no way he should just be handed the job. When he got hurt, we brought in Matthew Wright; he went 3 for 3 with us and made 15 of 16 for the season. Granted his kickoff depth was lacking but he was sitting at home when we came knocking after getting released by the Steelers. Spencer Shrader filled in for Butker on the Chiefs and went 5 for 5 in FG's on the year and 17 of his 18 kickoffs went for touchbacks; he was undrafted. Have no idea why we can't grab guys like that to come in and force Moody to earn his spot on the team and certainly don't need to waste a draft pick (let alone a 3rd rounder!!) on them.

[Pattersonca65]

I hated the Moody pick, and that was when I expected him to be a good kicker. What we've seen lately is...dispiriting. But I watched a YouTube video that looked into some of his kicking issues, and it did appear that his holder toward the end of the year - Wishnewski's injury replacement Pat O'Donnell - was not doing a good job of holding. He regularly had the ball at a weird angle, that could have been the cause of some of Wish's kicking woes. Still, just not sure how that guy returns after what we saw at the end of last year.

He definitely can't return without any sort of legitimate competition.

I can buy an argument that he's under contract so might as well bring him in camp to see if he works out his kinks and just have an open competition for the spot. I'll play devil's advocate but maybe he never fully got over his ankle injury and his holder wasn't the best at setting him up.

Personally I think we should move on because even before this season he wasn't as clutch as you liked him to be and we're always going to be nervous everytime he goes out and kicks.

I could see Moody returning to camp and facing some type of legit competition during pre-season; no way he should just be handed the job. When he got hurt, we brought in Matthew Wright; he went 3 for 3 with us and made 15 of 16 for the season. Granted his kickoff depth was lacking but he was sitting at home when we came knocking after getting released by the Steelers. Spencer Shrader filled in for Butker on the Chiefs and went 5 for 5 in FG's on the year and 17 of his 18 kickoffs went for touchbacks; he was undrafted. Have no idea why we can't grab guys like that to come in and force Moody to earn his spot on the team and certainly don't need to waste a draft pick (let alone a 3rd rounder!!) on them.

Love a strong leg but i would take a little less leg than high leg inaccuracy and unrealiability

[49er4life1979]

Any word on Klay Kubiak? I know they "interviewed" that coach from Iowa State but I think they need one more to satisfy that stupid rule.

[CrimsonCrew]

PFF rated Jordan Elliott as the Niners' worst off-season signing. He had a 46.7 PFF grade, which is actually one of his higher grades in a season.

That's two years in a row in which we've brought in disappointing DTs, though the scale of the mishap is different given the contracts. Got to improve in this area. DL needs a lot of help this offseason. It's arguably the #1 area of need on the team.

[Pattersonca65]

PFF has center Dalton from Atlanta as a potential free agent pickup. Not sure how realistic that could even be

[Samurai]

PFF has center Dalton from Atlanta as a potential free agent pickup. Not sure how realistic that could even be

Sounds good if the team's wallet is big enough. Dalman is expected by PFF to be in the neighborhood of 4 years/$46M, which might be too expensive for Paraag to fit in the cap. But given Trent's age and long-term uncertainty at every OL position except RG, it would be great to have some stability at center.

[Pattersonca65]

PFF has center Dalton from Atlanta as a potential free agent pickup. Not sure how realistic that could even be

Sounds good if the team's wallet is big enough. Dalman is expected by PFF to be in the neighborhood of 4 years/$46M, which might be too expensive for Paraag to fit in the cap. But given Trent's age and long-term uncertainty at every OL position except RG, it would be great to have some stability at center.

Yes, it all comes down to cap space. I just saw another mock draft with a new name, lol. These are amusing at times

[CrimsonCrew]

PFF has center Dalton from Atlanta as a potential free agent pickup. Not sure how realistic that could even be

Sounds good if the team's wallet is big enough. Dalman is expected by PFF to be in the neighborhood of 4 years/$46M, which might be too expensive for Paraag to fit in the cap. But given Trent's age and long-term uncertainty at every OL position except RG, it would be great to have some stability at center.

We have to move on from Brendel. He was a constant problem last year that disrupted the entire offense. Arguably his poor play was as big or bigger factor in our struggles than the loss of Aiyuk or CMC (individually, not combined). If they won't play a rookie center, then we need to bite the bullet and pay for one. It's our single biggest need in the offseason IMO.

[Pattersonca65]

PFF has center Dalton from Atlanta as a potential free agent pickup. Not sure how realistic that could even be

Sounds good if the team's wallet is big enough. Dalman is expected by PFF to be in the neighborhood of 4 years/$46M, which might be too expensive for Paraag to fit in the cap. But given Trent's age and long-term uncertainty at every OL position except RG, it would be great to have some stability at center.

We have to move on from Brendel. He was a constant problem last year that disrupted the entire offense. Arguably his poor play was as big or bigger factor in our struggles than the loss of Aiyuk or CMC (individually, not combined). If they won't play a rookie center, then we need to bite the bullet and pay for one. It's our single biggest need in the offseason IMO.

Agree. I think he was one of the worst graded starting center in the league

[Pattersonca65]

Sounds like Jed opened up his wallet and giving Saleh a lucrative contract to help keep him on the team for more than a year

[Jikkle]

Sounds like Jed opened up his wallet and giving Saleh a lucrative contract to help keep him on the team for more than a year

If Saleh is smart he'll be extremely picky about his next job because you really only get two failures as a head coach before you're basically a permanent coordinator the rest of your life. That's why I was surprised he seemed willing to take the Jags job under Baalke because you'd be setting yourself up for that second failure.

My thoughts on Jed is that John and Denise are definitely cheap but I never thought Jed was cheap. I always thought Jed wanted to win but his problem was that he was incompetent. Not sure how competent he is currently but he certainly is more than he was during the Harbaugh/Tomsula/Kelly era.

[Pattersonca65]

Sounds like Jed opened up his wallet and giving Saleh a lucrative contract to help keep him on the team for more than a year

If Saleh is smart he'll be extremely picky about his next job because you really only get two failures as a head coach before you're basically a permanent coordinator the rest of your life. That's why I was surprised he seemed willing to take the Jags job under Baalke because you'd be setting yourself up for that second failure.

My thoughts on Jed is that John and Denise are definitely cheap but I never thought Jed was cheap. I always thought Jed wanted to win but his problem was that he was incompetent. Not sure how competent he is currently but he certainly is more than he was during the Harbaugh/Tomsula/Kelly era.

I agree. The whole Jed cheap narrative was overblown. Reports at the time of Harbaugh suggested Harbaugh's staff was a highly paid one and those Harbaugh teams were up against the cap. The cost cutting really was a function of Baalke. He believed you replaced older aging vets with draft picks and did not believe in spending big in free agency overall. The team under Baalke began to turn over roster as would any other aging team but his draft picks flamed out leaving a roster filled with younger cheap players. I doubt it was some mandate by York to cut payroll. When KS and JL came on the FA spending increased

[49er4life1979]

The 49ers have just hired Gus Bradley as defensive assistant. Good hire to pair with Saleh.

[arich35]

How would you guys feel if we traded for Myles Garrett?

[wco81]

How would you guys feel if we traded for Myles Garrett?

Probably can't afford him.

That is one of the reasons Browns are going to accommodate him, because they can't justify the over $30 million for a non-QB.

Same reason the Rams are trading Kupp. He's not producing like before and Puca gives them the production Kupp used to have but Kupp's salary cap numbers are going to be in the upper $20 and low $30 million range.

All these big non-QB salaries, you get the big headline number but on the backend of those contracts, unless these players are putting up All-Pro numbers, they're going to be traded or cut. Even if they're producing they will be asked to restructure.

So that's what we can expect with Bosa and Aiyuk in 2-4 seasons.

[Pattersonca65]

How would you guys feel if we traded for Myles Garrett?

Would be great to have Garrett but at what cost? The 49ers would be bidding with other NFL teams. How much draft capital and cap space are we going to give up to get him. That is a lot of cap space on the edges

[RIPskaterdude]

Welp, should have traded him last offseason. I'm guessing they get a 4th round pick

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[CrimsonCrew]

I'd love to trade Deebo, but the contract is difficult and his value is low. He's our 4th WR at third point, once Aiyuk comes back.

Though I could see us trading him for a 4th and then using a first or second to replace him. That would be so us.

[Pattersonca65]

I'd love to trade Deebo, but the contract is difficult and his value is low. He's our 4th WR at third point, once Aiyuk comes back.

Though I could see us trading him for a 4th and then using a first or second to replace him. That would be so us.

I just saw that. Let him go to.it. Not sure who is willing to take on that contract