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Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? Update page 4: Beal rejects us

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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#61 » by Bulldog23 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:26 pm

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Bulldog23 wrote:Beal is older and probably better late game manager. I think it’s a slight upgrade than Lavine.


He worse than LaVine now and makes like $20 million more per season.


Lavine is putting up numbers on a bad team. Beal would be putting up better numbers on the Bulls.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#62 » by jnrjr79 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:27 pm

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Bulldog23 wrote:Beal is older and probably better late game manager. I think it’s a slight upgrade than Lavine.


He worse than LaVine now and makes like $20 million more per season.


Lavine is putting up numbers on a bad team. Beal would be putting up better numbers on the Bulls.


Better numbers than he is on Phoenix? Sure. Better than Zach’s current numbers? Fat chance. Beal was already worse than current Zach at the end of his Wizards tenure, when he was still the main guy.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#63 » by Bulliever2020 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:32 pm

So Beal is going to waive his no trade clause to move from Phoenix to freezing cold Chicago to play on a horrible tanking team the next few years?

And AKME who have sworn they will never go full rebuild are going to actually tear this team down entirely to be the worst team in the league? For a couple late 1st rounders?

I see no way in hell this happens.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#64 » by Betta Bulleavit » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:57 pm

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Bulldog23 wrote:Beal is older and probably better late game manager. I think it’s a slight upgrade than Lavine.


He worse than LaVine now and makes like $20 million more per season.


Lavine is putting up numbers on a bad team. Beal would be putting up better numbers on the Bulls.

It’s probably been 3 years since Beal was actually good. Trust this. There is a reason why Beal is considered as the single worst contract in basketball. And if the Bulls are taking him back, they should be getting 3 first rounders just for that alone. That’s no freaking joke.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#65 » by dougthonus » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:20 am

jnrjr79 wrote:You’re not spending it all on LaVine, since Beal makes considerably more, but to your point, sure, the Bulls are probably going to spend a fairly fixed sum on salary in any given year. But it only makes sense if you’re embarking on a long-term tank, since you won’t be able to use Beal’s salary on actual players and are basically conceding you will suck.


You probably dump Carter in the deal too, and up spending 8M more in total money, and then you get cash considerations to make up for that amount in the deal.

But yeah, it does suck on your books for two more seasons, but if you are getting 4 picks, I do think that is setting the direction of rebuild.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#66 » by Muzbar » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:22 am

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Bulldog23 wrote:Beal is older and probably better late game manager. I think it’s a slight upgrade than Lavine.


He worse than LaVine now and makes like $20 million more per season.

Beal makes 7m more per season.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#67 » by drosestruts » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:35 am

I'd need all 3 of those crappy PHX picks. Maybe a pick from Miami. Definitley would want Ware from Miami.

Long way of saying I don't want Beal and would have to be overly enticed with whatever else comes back to the Bulls.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#68 » by Jcool0 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:36 am

Phoenix Suns guard Bradley Beal will not waive his no-trade clause to go to the Chicago Bulls, a source familiar with the three-time All-Star’s thinking told The Athletic.

The Bulls had been mentioned as one team the Suns could use to facilitate a hypothetical trade for Miami Heat star Jimmy Butler.

Because of salary-cap eccentricities, Phoenix's only mode to acquire Butler in a trade (beyond including Kevin Durant or Devin Booker, which is not realistic) would be to trade Beal. But Miami is not looking to take on long-term money, which would mean sending Beal elsewhere. The Heat suspended Butler Monday for the third time this month,

While Beal is willing to waive his no-trade clause for the right destination, as The Athletic reported last week, he will not waive it just to leave the Suns, who moved him to the bench in early January. Before this season, Beal, his wife and their two sons moved full time to Phoenix. Accepting a trade elsewhere would mean either relocating his kids once again after going from Washington to Phoenix in 2023, or leaving them to play somewhere else for the time being.

There are destinations Beal would consider approving. As The Athletic reported last week, going to a winning team would be his first priority. However, cold-weather cities, including Chicago, are less attractive to him, the source said. If a team has a losing record and a chilly winter, it won’t be on Beal’s list. Of course, this complicates the Suns’ pursuit of Butler.

Beal has $160 million remaining on his contract over the next three years (including this season) and is one of two NBA players, along with four-time MVP LeBron James, who wields a no-trade clause.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#69 » by HomoSapien » Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:38 am

Bulliever2020 wrote:So Beal is going to waive his no trade clause to move from Phoenix to freezing cold Chicago to play on a horrible tanking team the next few years?

And AKME who have sworn they will never go full rebuild are going to actually tear this team down entirely to be the worst team in the league? For a couple late 1st rounders?

I see no way in hell this happens.


Historically, Bradley Beal has shown very little desire to be on a contender. In fact, he's been more ok being on a bad team and getting his stats then he's publicly advocated for being a on a good team. Right now, Phoenix is making life hard for Beal by benching him and slashing his playing time. I wouldn't undersell the notion of how attractive taking all the shots in Chicago probably sounds right now.

If it's not of interest, then we talk to Beal about agreeing to a generous buyout so he can go wherever he wants.
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Post#71 » by Donkedave » Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:55 am

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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#72 » by Bulliever2020 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:58 am

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Bulliever2020 wrote:So Beal is going to waive his no trade clause to move from Phoenix to freezing cold Chicago to play on a horrible tanking team the next few years?

And AKME who have sworn they will never go full rebuild are going to actually tear this team down entirely to be the worst team in the league? For a couple late 1st rounders?

I see no way in hell this happens.


Historically, Bradley Beal has shown very little desire to be on a contender. In fact, he's been more ok being on a bad team and getting his stats then he's publicly advocated for being a on a good team. Right now, Phoenix is making life hard for Beal by benching him and slashing his playing time. I wouldn't undersell the notion of how attractive taking all the shots in Chicago probably sounds right now.

If it's not of interest, then we talk to Beal about agreeing to a generous buyout so he can go wherever he wants.


We'll see. He would definitely see an increase in playing time and shots but most players at his age and stature want to win. Just because he was loyal to Washington and didn't ask for a trade doesn't mean he doesn't want to win.

and Beal has 2 years and 110 million remaining on his contract. There is 0% chance the Bulls are going to agree to that magnitude of a buyout which would have to be close to 100 million. Simply never going to happen.

And again AKME said they would never go full rebuild and this would be absolutely tearing it down the studs, Philly the process style tanking if they did this type of trade.

Never say never, but the chances of this actually happening are extremely low.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#73 » by Bulliever2020 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:59 am

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exactly like I thought. This whole thing is ridiculous.
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Post#74 » by Red8911 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:00 am

Getting turned down by Beal is funny and sad at the same time.
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Post#75 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:17 am

cocktailswith_2short wrote:I hope it gets done . Tank is fully committed and we have a war chest to trade .


War chest to trade? Man there is serious coping going on here. Beal and what are essentially a couple of 2nd picks will not change our future.
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Post#76 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:18 am

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exactly like I thought. This whole thing is ridiculous.


Good. I don’t him here.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#77 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:21 am

Red8911 wrote:Getting turned down by Beal is funny and sad at the same time.


Why is it sad? Why would any player in 30s with a no trade clause agree to come here? It makes no sense at all. He will only go to a team ready to win now.

There might be 8 teams he would agree to be traded to. This means nothing.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? Update page 4: Beal rejects us 

Post#78 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:22 am

Beal not coming here. This nonsense discussion can end!
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? 

Post#79 » by Betta Bulleavit » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:22 am

Red8911 wrote:Getting turned down by Beal is funny and sad at the same time.

Funny, yes. Sad, absolutely not. No team that is serious about winning should ever consider Beal. So the fact that he doesn’t want to come here is quite an honor.
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Re: Windhorst: Bulls are talking to Suns about Bradley Beal? Update page 4: Beal rejects us 

Post#80 » by Muzbar » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:26 am

Well that puts that to bed.

Thank goodness.
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