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Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25)

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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#401 » by 31to6 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 7:54 pm

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djFan71 wrote:Kornet (and the whole team, really) were sooooo close on making positive plays in the IND loss, but just didn't get it. Multiple rebounds / balls on the floor that he had and then didn't. Stepped on the baseline once, iirc. Seems to be a theme with Kornet. He does a lot of good, but then he's really close to doing a lot more good but doesn't quite get it done.


and yet -- he's consistently pretty good!

He's not likely to become 'great', but he's a bargain for the vet min and seems to have a great attitude about being ready to give the team whatever he can whenever he's called on -- he's not alone in that, but it's certainly gotta be helpful for team culture/chemistry

I don't mean that you are, but I think a lot of fans rag on him because he's a classic goofy big white stiff
And I understand that, but I hope we can also appreciate what we've got in Luke while we've got him

Nah, I’m a fan and have been. He’s quite solid. It’s just lately it seems like he is a few missed rebounds, dunks or whatever’s away from being outstanding. 3-4 plays each game that he allllmmmoooooosssstttt makes. It’s tantalizing, not demoralizing.


He's certainly not an explosive athlete. I think his hands and coordination are generally good, but there's a reason he was driving himself to Gleague games or whatever a few years ago. And you can be 'hot' or 'cold' in all areas of the game, not just shooting -- including grabbing boards, staying inbounds, defensive positioning -- Luke wasn't the only Celtic with a 'cold' stretch recently!
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#403 » by snowman » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:34 pm

I wonder why Kornet was only signed to a one-year deal when everyone else was getting longer deals.

taking in consideration options years:
Tillman 2 years
Queta 3 years
Hauser 4 years
Pritchard 4 years
Tatum 5 years
Holiday 4 years
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#404 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:16 am

Luke is the Lebron of minimum deals. He wants the flexibility. Can use the threat of leaving the team to get what he wants on and off the court.

One of the few players who essentially has a no-trade clause.
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#405 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:57 pm

Among 364 players who have played in at least 20 games, Kornet is 5th in net rating. The only ones ahead of him are players from the #1 team in the NBA. The Celtics are outscoring opponents by 15.6 points per 100 possessions in the 16.7 mins he is on the floor. Next Celtic on the list comes at 25th (Pritchard).

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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#406 » by MrGreenRunsDeep » Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:04 am

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MrGreenRunsDeep wrote:This guy needs to be waived …waste of roster space .. bring back Loonie Walker


Revisiting this classic.

Could say the same after effin up twice lol
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#407 » by fallguy » Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:26 am

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MrGreenRunsDeep wrote:This guy needs to be waived …waste of roster space .. bring back Loonie Walker


Revisiting this classic.

Could say the same after effin up twice lol


Shouldn't have been on the floor in those situations. Then Joe called two dumb switches. Kornet effective all night before then.

Lesson over.
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#408 » by shackles10 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:47 pm

Kornet had a really good game last night and felt like he used his size and strength more than most nights and like many had called for since his arrival. Until the last 10 seconds that is... then it all fell apart. The miscommunication on the first allowing the easy layup was really bad. The last second call for a switch with JB was even worse. On the Joe aspect of things KP would have been a better option, and possibly Springer even though you're giving up size Sengun isn't huge so JT or anyone else could have taken him for 3 seconds. I supposed that's the downfall of missing 3 of your top 8 and 2 of your better defenders last night. Let's hope Kornet continues more of the play of the first part of the game, because that was a guy who could get playoff minutes.
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#410 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:55 pm

shackles10 wrote:Kornet had a really good game last night and felt like he used his size and strength more than most nights and like many had called for since his arrival. Until the last 10 seconds that is... then it all fell apart. The miscommunication on the first allowing the easy layup was really bad. The last second call for a switch with JB was even worse. On the Joe aspect of things KP would have been a better option, and possibly Springer even though you're giving up size Sengun isn't huge so JT or anyone else could have taken him for 3 seconds. I supposed that's the downfall of missing 3 of your top 8 and 2 of your better defenders last night. Let's hope Kornet continues more of the play of the first part of the game, because that was a guy who could get playoff minutes.

Luke had a great game and was part of some poor last minute plays. I'm glad he got that experience as it should be valuable going forward.
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#411 » by Fierce1 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:08 pm

Luke getting minutes now is preparation in case KP or Al miss time in the playoffs.

It's malpractice if Joe does not have a Plan B if Al and KP miss games in the playoffs.

So Luke and Queta getting a chance to play now is a good thing.
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Post#412 » by return2glory » Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:56 am

Luke is such a limited player. But he has been improving the last 2 years, especially this season. The Australians have done a really good job on building his body. His upper body is bigger this season and he is stronger. His lower body and balance has improved too, he doesn't fall on the ground as much.

Two things I don't get about Luke are:

1. Why not shoot 3s once or twice a game? He came to Boston as a 3 point shooting big. They don't allow him to shoot 3s for some reason.
2. Why not work on a hook shot/jump hook around the basket? He is so limited on the block. When he catches the ball in the paint, he is immediately look to pass the ball out.
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#413 » by 31to6 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:55 pm

return2glory wrote:Luke is such a limited player. But he has been improving the last 2 years, especially this season. The Australians have done a really good job on building his body. His upper body is bigger this season and he is stronger. His lower body and balance has improved too, he doesn't fall on the ground as much.

Two things I don't get about Luke are:

1. Why not shoot 3s once or twice a game? He came to Boston as a 3 point shooting big. They don't allow him to shoot 3s for some reason.
2. Why not work on a hook shot/jump hook around the basket? He is so limited on the block. When he catches the ball in the paint, he is immediately look to pass the ball out.


I don't want the 3s (want him closer to the basket for lob threat and ORB potential) but big YES to the jump hook idea. That alone could make him the best big man we've had since Kristaps Porzingis and Al Horford.
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#414 » by playa-hater » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:33 pm

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return2glory wrote:Luke is such a limited player. But he has been improving the last 2 years, especially this season. The Australians have done a really good job on building his body. His upper body is bigger this season and he is stronger. His lower body and balance has improved too, he doesn't fall on the ground as much.

Two things I don't get about Luke are:

1. Why not shoot 3s once or twice a game? He came to Boston as a 3 point shooting big. They don't allow him to shoot 3s for some reason.
2. Why not work on a hook shot/jump hook around the basket? He is so limited on the block. When he catches the ball in the paint, he is immediately look to pass the ball out.


I don't want the 3s (want him closer to the basket for lob threat and ORB potential) but big YES to the jump hook idea. That alone could make him the best big man we've had since Kristaps Porzingis and Al Horford.


He is already better! :crazy: :nod:
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#415 » by seiffert82 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:52 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Among 364 players who have played in at least 20 games, Kornet is 5th in net rating. The only ones ahead of him are players from the #1 team in the NBA. The Celtics are outscoring opponents by 15.6 points per 100 possessions in the 16.7 mins he is on the floor. Next Celtic on the list comes at 25th (Pritchard).

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Despite some fans losing their **** every time Kornet makes an error, his development over the past two seasons has been impressive. He's now starting to become a genuine offensive threat, who needs to be guarded both on and off the ball.

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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#416 » by Parliament10 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 3:38 am

He's turning into a hell of a 3rd Center. Do we give him a long-term Contract, in the Off-season?
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Post#417 » by Fierce1 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 4:24 am

Parliament10 wrote:He's turning into a hell of a 3rd Center. Do we give him a long-term Contract, in the Off-season?

Yes!

Luke and Queta are the Centers of the 2nd championship window.
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Post#418 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Feb 10, 2025 4:50 am

Kornet was already good as our 3rd center last season. Even thought we’d get priced out during free agency. He supposedly turned down better offers to remain with the champs. Lucky us. And he got even better in his role this season. Smart, low usage, system players often do.
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#419 » by djFan71 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 6:03 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:Kornet was already good as our 3rd center last season. Even thought we’d get priced out during free agency. He supposedly turned down better offers to remain with the champs. Lucky us. And he got even better in his role this season. Smart, low usage, system players often do.

Do you know the max we can offer him in the summer? I'm sure Mr Green's Cash Money Runs Deep for Kornet.
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Re: Luke "Green Kornet" Thread (Re-signs with C's for 2024-25) 

Post#420 » by Fierce1 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 6:26 am

Cs have Bird Rights so Cs can give Luke a deal similar to PP or Sam.

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