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2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1601 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:05 pm

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God Squad wrote:Do you believe CMB could become a mid-30 % 3-point shooter?

I do. That’s what this league is all about at this point. His free throws aren’t great, but it’s not horrible either. I could see a RoCo or Josh Hart style career for CMB.


I guess I am higher than most people on CMB because I don't think of positions so much.

Calling him RoCo just looks at one-two things he does well.

CMB is a pretty advanced as playmaker with a 25 USG and 19 AST%. He has higher turnovers this year playing with a young team, but he can make reads well.

He can guard 2-5 in the NBA. I have seen his weight listed at 240 lbs which is heavy, but he has light feet like OG. He can guard pick and roll well. To me he fits the OG body-type and I think under NBA training he keeps his weight around 235 lbs. For me, that 235 lbs 6'7 /6'8 build and crazy defensive metrics is the sweet spot. Strong, good feet and NBA ready body means this 20 year-old can play instant minutes. Watch - OKC is going to trade up for him.

Size and weight wise he is like Draymond Green and his impact on both ends also looks projects well. Draymond is a top end outcome, but he also has potential to be like PJ Washington on Dallas or Jared Vanderbilt who when healthy is a huge two-way value. These are all guys playoff teams target. CMB is unselfish and an intangibles guy all at 20 YO. I think the growth potential is special with him even if the outside shot is slow to develop.

RoCo is literally better than Washington and Vanderbilt. I’d take him 11/10 times over both of them. And RoCo stuffs the stat sheet, much like I expect CMB to do.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1602 » by Syd-TK3 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:35 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:How would you guys compare Ware to Malauch as prospects? Ware went 15 last year and Khaman is mocked top 12 everywhere with him climbing

Ware would easily have been picked higher if there wasn't all the "attitude" concerns
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1603 » by Dalek » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:48 pm

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:How would you guys compare Ware to Malauch as prospects? Ware went 15 last year and Khaman is mocked top 12 everywhere with him climbing

Ware would easily have been picked higher if there wasn't all the "attitude" concerns


Khaman is a much better prospect. He is playing a Duke system and is related to the dunker spot, but I swear he can stretch the floor from his time at BAL. He is bigger and and younger so he has huge upside, but will need patience. I always thought Maluach is better off being a two year guy like Ware, but I think the lack of Cs in this draft might make him valued high.

Look how good this guy looked in a FIBA game against all-stars like Embiid and Davis:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1604 » by Syd-TK3 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:18 pm

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:How would you guys compare Ware to Malauch as prospects? Ware went 15 last year and Khaman is mocked top 12 everywhere with him climbing

Ware would easily have been picked higher if there wasn't all the "attitude" concerns


Khaman is a much better prospect. He is playing a Duke system and is related to the dunker spot, but I swear he can stretch the floor from his time at BAL. He is bigger and and younger so he has huge upside, but will need patience. I always thought Maluach is better off being a two year guy like Ware, but I think the lack of Cs in this draft might make him valued high.

Look how good this guy looked in a FIBA game against all-stars like Embiid and Davis:

I agree I wasn't really comparing the 2 just pointing out that Ware shoulda went higher in his draft
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1605 » by Psubs » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:50 pm

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Psubs wrote:Zero Star Recruit! Humble confidence. Oh he says team measured and he has a 7'5 wingspan. :o



Mentioned him earlier and personally like him more than CMB. CMB reminds me a lot more of Draymond with a few more skills around the basket. Fleming reminds me of Eason with a left hand lol (as in can use both hands to dribble). I’d LOVE to get him with a 2nd first somehow but if we were to fall out of the top 10 and were choosing between the two, I like Rasheer just a little bit more.


Ah he was at Lillard's camp and won the Pitbull Competitor award for his non-stop motor. :D

Not big on social media because of hit humble beginnings. He seems like Kawhi's demeanor.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1606 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:06 am

Gun to your head, Raptors have the 4th pick and you got 30 seconds

Jak or VJ? (Or other)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1607 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:09 am

Fleming looks like this years JDub. He’s gonna kill it in workouts and go earlier than mocked
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1608 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:14 am

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Gun to your head, Raptors have the 4th pick and you got 30 seconds

Jak or VJ? (Or other)

No brainer for me; Jak.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1609 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:33 am

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Fleming looks like this years JDub. He’s gonna kill it in workouts and go earlier than mocked


I wouldn’t go as far as being the next JDub because he had better handles but I’ve said it a few times now, I’m taking Rasheer over CMB personally.

Basically the size of Scottie but even longer wingspan and can shoot…
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1610 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:35 am

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Fleming looks like this years JDub. He’s gonna kill it in workouts and go earlier than mocked


I wouldn’t go as far as being the next JDub because he had better handles but I’ve said it a few times now, I’m taking Rasheer over CMB personally.

Same. Not that CMB is weak, just that Fleming looks better to me.
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Post#1611 » by RealFaction » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:53 am

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Fleming looks like this years JDub. He’s gonna kill it in workouts and go earlier than mocked


10-15 range with a chance to go top 10, in my opinion. He's very appealing besides Maluach if we drop to the inevitable 7-10 range with a remaining weak schedule.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1612 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:49 am

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Maluach just went down to #10 on my board! Meaning he's gonna be available when we're on the clock! :D (jk)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1613 » by arbsn » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:03 am

My biggest concern with this draft is that we slip 9th or lower pick due to the lottery (and not tanking hard enough) and Masai decides to get cute with the pick and takes a guy like Essengue or Ngongo
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1614 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:07 am

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Gun to your head, Raptors have the 4th pick and you got 30 seconds

Jak or VJ? (Or other)


What position is Jak supposed to guard in the NBA, you take VJ and leave the other 29 seconds trying to move up with your 2nd
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1615 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:10 am

Outside of the top 10, I’ll be hoping/settling for one Malauch, Fleming or Fears.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1616 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:11 am

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Maluach just went down to #10 on my board! Meaning he's gonna be available when we're on the clock! :D (jk)


Must’ve made him sick watching us win too lol
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1617 » by arbsn » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:12 am

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Gun to your head, Raptors have the 4th pick and you got 30 seconds

Jak or VJ? (Or other)

No brainer for me; Jak.


You'd take Jak with the 4th pick over other guards like Tre Johnson, Fland, Demin, Traore? Those guys are all so hyped haven't heard any hype around Jak. I know he's big and can shoot but how is his defense? Will he be able to stay on the floor in the NBA? I watched Illinois play Michigan state the other day and did not even notice him on the court. I would've thought Will Riley Canadian kid was their lottery pick.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1618 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:19 am

arbsn wrote:My biggest concern with this draft is that we slip 9th or lower pick due to the lottery (and not tanking hard enough) and Masai decides to get cute with the pick and takes a guy like Essengue or Ngongo


lol lol why speak like you know better than a multi-billion dollar corporation with way more resources behind them and anyone of us. Why would Essengue be a cute pick at 9. He was putting up 20pt games against the NBA competition this perseason with room to grow
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1619 » by earthtone » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:25 am

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Gun to your head, Raptors have the 4th pick and you got 30 seconds

Jak or VJ? (Or other)

No brainer for me; Jak.


You'd take Jak with the 4th pick over other guards like Tre Johnson, Fland, Demin, Traore? Those guys are all so hyped haven't heard any hype around Jak. I know he's big and can shoot but how is his defense? Will he be able to stay on the floor in the NBA? I watched Illinois play Michigan state the other day and did not even notice him on the court. I would've thought Will Riley Canadian kid was their lottery pick.

He picked up quick fouls in both halves, so that was definitely his worst game of the season you saw.

Personally I go VJ over Jak because I think VJ has both the higher floor and higher ceiling, but Jak is so good as a shot creator and passer at his age that I wouldn't be mad at the pick. I don't think his defense will ever be average to above-average in the league, but if he's as much of an offensive engine as he is in college, it won't really matter.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1620 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:30 am

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Gun to your head, Raptors have the 4th pick and you got 30 seconds

Jak or VJ? (Or other)

No brainer for me; Jak.


You'd take Jak with the 4th pick over other guards like Tre Johnson, Fland, Demin, Traore? Those guys are all so hyped haven't heard any hype around Jak. I know he's big and can shoot but how is his defense? Will he be able to stay on the floor in the NBA? I watched Illinois play Michigan state the other day and did not even notice him on the court. I would've thought Will Riley Canadian kid was their lottery pick.

If you’re taking guys like Demin, Fland, and Traore over Jak you’re going to be disappointed. Tre Johnson is above VJ on my board, so I’d be okay with him. But Jak is a monster. He’ll be in that category of guy that you have to incorporate into team defensive schemes because of how much he improves your team offensively. I don’t see why he can’t be a neutral defender.

You mentioned the one game where the referees took him out of the game. Seriously? They fouled him out in 9 minutes which is absolutely ridiculous. On the season Jak is at 16/5/5 on 49/37/87 shooting splits, with a ridiculous .643 ts%

Riley is at 10/4/2 on 38/31/69 splits. Take Riley over Jak if you want, but it won’t end well for you.
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