Are the Orlando Magic a dirty team?

[AussieBuck]

The whole team, no.
Wagner in particular, yes.

Yeah, the rest of them just play hard.

Mo Wagner's whole thing is to do something dirty to get a reaction. Like Draymond but without the invincibility clause. Good player though, might even be better without the nonsense. (or maybe it fuels him, I dunno)

[Residual-Heat]

LOL no.

and if you consider Mo dirty then every team has atleast one "dirty" player. Mo is an ****, but he never tries to injure anyone.

[srhcan]

Yes because the evidence suggest it

[JT3000]

I hated to see the injury to Ivey, but these 2 teams are very close to each other in their development and could become a serious rivalry. Cade and Paolo both being number 1 picks in consecutive years, both teams with identical records battling to stay out of the play in.

I don't see it. The Pistons only have one potential star, and they're doing too well this season to get another one. The Magic are definitely going through a funk, but I'm confident they'll be nowhere near play-in range by the end of the season (assuming no one else gets injured.) They wouldn't be here to begin with if healthy, while the Pistons are arguably punching above their weight already.

[basketballRob]

They are a reckless team, and it shows. Obviously condoned by their coach.

They have injured Ivey recklessly, and tried to do the same to Cade.

This is why the team has Isaiah Stewart.

See you next year, and don't skip leg day.

Cade flopped if you're talking about what looked like a push? Plus, plays like that happen all the time.

Franz and Paolo are nowhere near in shape, and I'm sure they'll remember all the talking Cade was doing. Cade called Franz too small to guard him in the 4th quarter, and then Franz dropped 25 pts in the quarter on him. Just wait until he's 100%

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[MrTribbiani]

Not at all.

Many fans want teams to play more like the Bad Boy Pistons, but they also complain when teams play like the Bad Boy Pistons.

Seems like many fans can't make up their minds lol.

[bstein14]

Not saying its dirty, but they for sure are a bit wreckless diving into opposing players for loose balls. I love the grit/fight/hustle type plays but diving into someone's legs is dangerous. It cost Ivey the year and then Suggs goes hard into Cade in this game as well. Diving into someone's legs seems way more likely to cause a serious injury than being in their landing space on a jumper. You aren't allowed to dive into someone's legs in the NFL due to injury risk and here Suggs does it to Cade and zero foul called.

[JT3000]

Not saying its dirty, but they for sure are a bit wreckless diving into opposing players for loose balls. I love the grit/fight/hustle type plays but diving into someone's legs is dangerous. It cost Ivey the year and then Suggs goes hard into Cade in this game as well. Diving into someone's legs seems way more likely to cause a serious injury than being in their landing space on a jumper. You aren't allowed to dive into someone's legs in the NFL due to injury risk and here Suggs does it to Cade and zero foul called.

What are you talking about? Suggs doesn't even leave his feet until after the contact, which is to Cade's torso, not his legs.

[Ducklett]

I forgot about the Pistons player donkey punching Mo. I think we should be dirtier versus them going forward

[JujitsuFlip]

BTW.. aside from that hipcheck on Hayes, why is Moe considered dirty?

Irritating yes. Someone you hate to play against yes.

But does he intentionally stick his leg, and etc? I havent seen it.

He broke Allen's ribs with an elbow, in the 1st round last year, what do you mean? lol

didnt know that? which game and was it intentional?

Game 4, Allen missed the final 3 games of the series and all 5 games in the next series.

It royally screwed the Cavs.

I think it was intentional and you being a Magic fan would probably think it's incidental.

[RookieStar]

He broke Allen's ribs with an elbow, in the 1st round last year, what do you mean? lol

didnt know that? which game and was it intentional?

Game 4, Allen missed the final 3 games of the series and all 5 games in the next series.

It royally screwed the Cavs.

I think it was intentional and you being a Magic fan would probably think it's incidental.

Nope. I didnt see it. So i cant comment. Unlike the majority of probably you all here, due to different working hours, i cant always watch it live. Also, full replays are not always available.

[MrGoat]

Not really but that could be colored by the fact that the Mavs have played the Thunder a lot recently. Mo Wagner might've been a little chippy but he's nowhere near the level of a Draymond or Dort

[Audi]

He broke Allen's ribs with an elbow, in the 1st round last year, what do you mean? lol

didnt know that? which game and was it intentional?

Game 4, Allen missed the final 3 games of the series and all 5 games in the next series.

It royally screwed the Cavs.

I think it was intentional and you being a Magic fan would probably think it's incidental.

Post the vid of Moritz elbowing Allen in the ribs, please. I’ve never seen it and have looked extensively. In fact, I don’t even think you even have the right Wagner brother.

[The Real Dalic]

Not really but that could be colored by the fact that the Mavs have played the Thunder a lot recently. Mo Wagner might've been a little chippy but he's nowhere near the level of a Draymond or Dort

I'm confused by this, are you implying that the Thunder are dirty?

[MrGoat]

Not really but that could be colored by the fact that the Mavs have played the Thunder a lot recently. Mo Wagner might've been a little chippy but he's nowhere near the level of a Draymond or Dort

I'm confused by this, are you implying that the Thunder are dirty?

Let me clear up your confusion, yes I am implying that the Thunder are dirty.

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[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Dirty implies intent to me.

Don’t think their intention is to injure anyone, they are simply making hustle plays. Just unfortunate.

Joel Embiid has more dirty plays in one game that I’ve seen from the Magic.

[RookieStar]

didnt know that? which game and was it intentional?

Game 4, Allen missed the final 3 games of the series and all 5 games in the next series.

It royally screwed the Cavs.

I think it was intentional and you being a Magic fan would probably think it's incidental.

Post the vid of Moritz elbowing Allen in the ribs, please. I’ve never seen it and have looked extensively. In fact, I don’t even think you even have the right Wagner brother.

Yes i wanna see that incident that can sideline Alleb for so long

[FeatheryTouch]

Not saying its dirty, but they for sure are a bit wreckless diving into opposing players for loose balls. I love the grit/fight/hustle type plays but diving into someone's legs is dangerous. It cost Ivey the year and then Suggs goes hard into Cade in this game as well. Diving into someone's legs seems way more likely to cause a serious injury than being in their landing space on a jumper. You aren't allowed to dive into someone's legs in the NFL due to injury risk and here Suggs does it to Cade and zero foul called.

I've got no dog in this fight, but during the Ivey injury play Anthony is clearly diving directly towards the loose ball and not Ivey's legs. Ivey decided to challenge as well but unfortunately arrived at the same spot a half second late and took the contact in a bad spot.

It sucks that Ivey got hurt, but I think that was actually a good hustle play by Anthony.

[Wargreymon]

Umm...if the Magic are dirty then they are doing it wrong cause their own players seem to get injured.

[styLesdavis]

He broke Allen's ribs with an elbow, in the 1st round last year, what do you mean? lol

didnt know that? which game and was it intentional?

Game 4, Allen missed the final 3 games of the series and all 5 games in the next series.

It royally screwed the Cavs.

I think it was intentional and you being a Magic fan would probably think it's incidental.

When did it happen during that game?
Could you post a video or a link?

How many other dirty plays happened in the history of the NBA where NO SINGLE VIDEO can be found?

To make it short: if it would have been intentional there would be lots of videos on social media or youtube
because thats how it works nowadays. Funny enough most of the cavs fans couldn`t tell after the game if it
was Moe or Franz.