The LeBron James All-NBA (2nd) and Luka Doncic - 24-25 Thread

[nzahir]

I'd be happiest with Lonzo/RW3

It think you can get them for little draft capital. Lakers can make a big move in the offseason if Lonzo/RW3 are injured. If they manage to be healthy then I think Lakers could with the championship this year.

No way you prefer Lonzo and RW3 over Kessler+Lonzo/Sexton/CJM/Poole/Ayo/3rd playmaker or Turner+3rd playmaker at 14.5m or less (Ayo, Mann, Cp3, etc?)

If we arent moving a 1st though, and its 2nds/swaps/protected swap, fine

Rui, Vincent, JHS, and Hayes

Reaves, Christie, DFS, Bron, AD
Lonzo, Knecht, Vando, Wood? Rw3

Got 2 extra spots for depth. Marcus Morris, Gallo, Crowder, RoCo, Fultz, DSJ

I like that team, but much rather give up draft capital and have a better shot to compete

But if I am doing anything withot going all in/mostly in, this is the move

I do prefer it because Lakers can keep their FRPs and get a better fit in the offseason.

Who’s that better “fit”?

Rob has been saying this for years and nothing to show of it

We don’t have assets like okc or hou for a superstar

Unless you think KD or Curry are available and want LA

[IG2]

The next bout of unseriousness is always just around the corner with this team.

Lakers are nowhere close to being good enough to do all the showboating they were doing in that 1st qtr. That fired Charlotte up and they played with Game 7 intensity the rest of the night while Lakers couldn't make a 3 to save their lives. That's how a 23 point lead becomes a competitive game fast.

[zimpy27]

No way you prefer Lonzo and RW3 over Kessler+Lonzo/Sexton/CJM/Poole/Ayo/3rd playmaker or Turner+3rd playmaker at 14.5m or less (Ayo, Mann, Cp3, etc?)

If we arent moving a 1st though, and its 2nds/swaps/protected swap, fine

Rui, Vincent, JHS, and Hayes

Reaves, Christie, DFS, Bron, AD
Lonzo, Knecht, Vando, Wood? Rw3

Got 2 extra spots for depth. Marcus Morris, Gallo, Crowder, RoCo, Fultz, DSJ

I like that team, but much rather give up draft capital and have a better shot to compete

But if I am doing anything withot going all in/mostly in, this is the move

I do prefer it because Lakers can keep their FRPs and get a better fit in the offseason.

Who’s that better “fit”?

Rob has been saying this for years and nothing to show of it

We don’t have assets like okc or hou for a superstar

Unless you think KD or Curry are available and want LA

I think a star shakes loose this offseason in trade because of the impending massive FA in 2026. Or I think an SnT could happen.

This offseason is the last one with Reaves on a sweet deal so I'm expecting Lakers try take a swing.

[trickshot]

To be fair Gabe and Rui didn't play and they still managed to never trail from start to finish. The choke was on after the 1st quarter and the team simply refused to have a total collapse. DFS and Vando are a great engine to have because they play the same regardless of momentum. That's the exact type of game the team has been capitulating all season and getting blown out.

[nzahir]

I do prefer it because Lakers can keep their FRPs and get a better fit in the offseason.

Who’s that better “fit”?

Rob has been saying this for years and nothing to show of it

We don’t have assets like okc or hou for a superstar

Unless you think KD or Curry are available and want LA

I think a star shakes loose this offseason in trade because of the impending massive FA in 2026. Or I think an SnT could happen.

This offseason is the last one with Reaves on a sweet deal so I'm expecting Lakers try take a swing.

Give me some names

Who are those stars?

I bet many teams like SA, Hou, OKC, etc can outbid us

Utah reportedly wants Knecht and both picks

Thats too much, Knecht, 1 1st, and unprotecting is the most I can see

If they dont want to play ball, then u gota see what Indi wants for Turner and what portland wants for Rw3

Theres a ton of C's available or can be available

Many of these teams are horribly run and dont get assets when they should, for ex CHI could have sold higher on Vuc before

Or Was could have reportedly gotten a decent amount for Kuzma the other year

list goes on and on

[TroubleS0me]

Read on Twitter

[trickshot]

Who’s that better “fit”?

Rob has been saying this for years and nothing to show of it

We don’t have assets like okc or hou for a superstar

Unless you think KD or Curry are available and want LA

I think a star shakes loose this offseason in trade because of the impending massive FA in 2026. Or I think an SnT could happen.

This offseason is the last one with Reaves on a sweet deal so I'm expecting Lakers try take a swing.

Give me some names

Who are those stars?

I bet many teams like SA, Hou, OKC, etc can outbid us

Utah reportedly wants Knecht and both picks

Thats too much, Knecht, 1 1st, and unprotecting is the most I can see

If they dont want to play ball, then u gota see what Indi wants for Turner and what portland wants for Rw3

Theres a ton of C's available or can be available

Many of these teams are horribly run and dont get assets when they should, for ex CHI could have sold higher on Vuc before

Or Was could have reportedly gotten a decent amount for Kuzma the other year

list goes on and on

Danny Ainge you never cease to amaze. Mental asking price. At least have Kessler on a longer contract before asking for a team's only 2 FRPs and their lone prospect. Maybe even send a 2nd the other way or offer a pick swap instead. No creativity, just straight fleeces. Mental.

[dcstanley]

I wonder if they could turn Rui/Vincent/JHS/picks into Dejounte. I don't see the point of New Orleans holding on to him.

[nzahir]

I think a star shakes loose this offseason in trade because of the impending massive FA in 2026. Or I think an SnT could happen.

This offseason is the last one with Reaves on a sweet deal so I'm expecting Lakers try take a swing.

Give me some names

Who are those stars?

I bet many teams like SA, Hou, OKC, etc can outbid us

Utah reportedly wants Knecht and both picks

Thats too much, Knecht, 1 1st, and unprotecting is the most I can see

If they dont want to play ball, then u gota see what Indi wants for Turner and what portland wants for Rw3

Theres a ton of C's available or can be available

Many of these teams are horribly run and dont get assets when they should, for ex CHI could have sold higher on Vuc before

Or Was could have reportedly gotten a decent amount for Kuzma the other year

list goes on and on

Danny Ainge you never cease to amaze. Mental asking price. At least have Kessler on a longer contract before asking for a team's only 2 FRPs and their lone prospect. Maybe even send a 2nd the other way or offer a pick swap instead. No creativity, just straight fleeces. Mental.

I mean the Russ deal was fair

I think this is posturing

If they want Knecht, its Knecht, unprotecting, and a 1st

If they dont want Knecht, then its tougher. A 1st and unprotecting is too light. Both 1sts and unprotecting is too much

If the last 1st is protected or its a protected swap, more palatable

Would help if Sexton is in there or getting something small back. Maybe one of their 1sts from another deal

Also Lonzo looked good tonight. Hes not a good half court scorer besides spot up 3s, but a better defender and passer than Gabe and a better 3 point shooter

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=BBBComps

[nzahir]

I wonder if they could turn Rui/Vincent/JHS/picks into Dejounte. I don't see the point of New Orleans holding on to him.

I dont see them selling low on him tbh

I see them moving BI or letting him walk and having DJM as part of their core if they want to continue the core with Zion

Also how does DJM fit with a non spacer like Vando and getting a big?

[zimpy27]

Who’s that better “fit”?

Rob has been saying this for years and nothing to show of it

We don’t have assets like okc or hou for a superstar

Unless you think KD or Curry are available and want LA

I think a star shakes loose this offseason in trade because of the impending massive FA in 2026. Or I think an SnT could happen.

This offseason is the last one with Reaves on a sweet deal so I'm expecting Lakers try take a swing.

Give me some names

Who are those stars?

I bet many teams like SA, Hou, OKC, etc can outbid us

Utah reportedly wants Knecht and both picks

Thats too much, Knecht, 1 1st, and unprotecting is the most I can see

If they dont want to play ball, then u gota see what Indi wants for Turner and what portland wants for Rw3

Theres a ton of C's available or can be available

Many of these teams are horribly run and dont get assets when they should, for ex CHI could have sold higher on Vuc before

Or Was could have reportedly gotten a decent amount for Kuzma the other year

list goes on and on

Trae, Kyrie, Fox, Lauri

[trickshot]

Give me some names

Who are those stars?

I bet many teams like SA, Hou, OKC, etc can outbid us

Utah reportedly wants Knecht and both picks

Thats too much, Knecht, 1 1st, and unprotecting is the most I can see

If they dont want to play ball, then u gota see what Indi wants for Turner and what portland wants for Rw3

Theres a ton of C's available or can be available

Many of these teams are horribly run and dont get assets when they should, for ex CHI could have sold higher on Vuc before

Or Was could have reportedly gotten a decent amount for Kuzma the other year

list goes on and on

Danny Ainge you never cease to amaze. Mental asking price. At least have Kessler on a longer contract before asking for a team's only 2 FRPs and their lone prospect. Maybe even send a 2nd the other way or offer a pick swap instead. No creativity, just straight fleeces. Mental.

I mean the Russ deal was fair

I think this is posturing

If they want Knecht, its Knecht, unprotecting, and a 1st

If they dont want Knecht, then its tougher. A 1st and unprotecting is too light. Both 1sts and unprotecting is too much

If the last 1st is protected or its a protected swap, more palatable

Would help if Sexton is in there or getting something small back. Maybe one of their 1sts from another deal

Also Lonzo looked good tonight. Hes not a good half court scorer besides spot up 3s, but a better defender and passer than Gabe and a better 3 point shooter
ps

That's why it's looking unlikely. If the asking price to consider a trade is that high then he's not up for trade. He also has to be renewed so a team over the 1st apron sees him as trading for an extra 20m plus in salary. Like a poison pill of sorts. It's also why Sexton and kessler in the same deal might be even more unrealistic. Thanks to his pending renewal Lakers only trade for Kessler with the intention to extend and give him Rui's cap allocation. Basically trading Kessler likely means shedding Rui sooner rather than later not using him to take on more baggage.

It's also why Ainge should wait to renew him if they want that kind of return from anyone. It's like he wants to eat his cake and have it by not wanting to pay him and still wanting maximum value. It's not a practical trade chip.

Edit well someone floated expanding the deal to include others so idk. Maybe Jazz won't mind converting sexton to smaller contracts and expirings.

[Tracymcgoaty]

I wonder if they could turn Rui/Vincent/JHS/picks into Dejounte. I don't see the point of New Orleans holding on to him.

Bruh that is way too much for a guy shooting 39% from the field.

Rui gets a lot of hate including me. But he's shooting great and would be a great gunner off the bench.

Gabe has been looking really good as well.

Im not trading both of them plus picks for Murray.

[dcstanley]

Give me some names

Who are those stars?

I bet many teams like SA, Hou, OKC, etc can outbid us

Utah reportedly wants Knecht and both picks

Thats too much, Knecht, 1 1st, and unprotecting is the most I can see

If they dont want to play ball, then u gota see what Indi wants for Turner and what portland wants for Rw3

Theres a ton of C's available or can be available

Many of these teams are horribly run and dont get assets when they should, for ex CHI could have sold higher on Vuc before

Or Was could have reportedly gotten a decent amount for Kuzma the other year

list goes on and on

Danny Ainge you never cease to amaze. Mental asking price. At least have Kessler on a longer contract before asking for a team's only 2 FRPs and their lone prospect. Maybe even send a 2nd the other way or offer a pick swap instead. No creativity, just straight fleeces. Mental.

I mean the Russ deal was fair

I think this is posturing

If they want Knecht, its Knecht, unprotecting, and a 1st

If they dont want Knecht, then its tougher. A 1st and unprotecting is too light. Both 1sts and unprotecting is too much

If the last 1st is protected or its a protected swap, more palatable

Would help if Sexton is in there or getting something small back. Maybe one of their 1sts from another deal

Also Lonzo looked good tonight. Hes not a good half court scorer besides spot up 3s, but a better defender and passer than Gabe and a better 3 point shooter

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=BBBComps

I think the Bulls are the likely trade partner. I'm open to a trade for either Lonzo or Ayo. Ayo would probably cost more but shouldn't be too expensive. Neither bring much half-court creation/scoring but they bring defense, passing, transition ability, and adequate three point shooting. Ayo gives them some athleticism while Lonzo gives them another high IQ player. It's also possible to trade for both and just slot Ayo as a wing and have him replace Dalton in the rotation. Rui/Gabe/Reddish/pick(s) for Lonzo/Ayo

AR/Christie/DFS/LBJ/AD
Lonzo/Ayo/Knecht/Vando/Center

[PistolPeteJR]

I don’t want Lonzo. The best ability is availability. Maybe he ends up being super healthy the next few seasons, but the math says probably not. I’d rather get Ayo if I had to choose between the two.

Also, Ainge is hilarious on wanting two 1sts in this market. No one’s trading two 1sts for Kessler knowing he’s gonna net big money on his extension soon. It’s just like what he did with Lauri. Went from super desirable to not.

I think the Lakers should consider unprotecting the ‘27 and sending another 1st sans Knecht and I think Ainge should run with that.

[nzahir]

I think a star shakes loose this offseason in trade because of the impending massive FA in 2026. Or I think an SnT could happen.

This offseason is the last one with Reaves on a sweet deal so I'm expecting Lakers try take a swing.

Give me some names

Who are those stars?

I bet many teams like SA, Hou, OKC, etc can outbid us

Utah reportedly wants Knecht and both picks

Thats too much, Knecht, 1 1st, and unprotecting is the most I can see

If they dont want to play ball, then u gota see what Indi wants for Turner and what portland wants for Rw3

Theres a ton of C's available or can be available

Many of these teams are horribly run and dont get assets when they should, for ex CHI could have sold higher on Vuc before

Or Was could have reportedly gotten a decent amount for Kuzma the other year

list goes on and on

Trae, Kyrie, Fox, Lauri

Trae and Reaves would be horribly defensively

Unless you got AR moving in the deal

Does that make us good enough?

Why would Mavs move Kyrie?

I don’t see Sac moving Fox to us/rn. Also same questions defensively with AR

How would front court defense be with Lebron and Lauri? Probably too slow and transition D could be a worry

[nzahir]

Danny Ainge you never cease to amaze. Mental asking price. At least have Kessler on a longer contract before asking for a team's only 2 FRPs and their lone prospect. Maybe even send a 2nd the other way or offer a pick swap instead. No creativity, just straight fleeces. Mental.

I mean the Russ deal was fair

I think this is posturing

If they want Knecht, its Knecht, unprotecting, and a 1st

If they dont want Knecht, then its tougher. A 1st and unprotecting is too light. Both 1sts and unprotecting is too much

If the last 1st is protected or its a protected swap, more palatable

Would help if Sexton is in there or getting something small back. Maybe one of their 1sts from another deal

Also Lonzo looked good tonight. Hes not a good half court scorer besides spot up 3s, but a better defender and passer than Gabe and a better 3 point shooter
ps

That's why it's looking unlikely. If the asking price to consider a trade is that high then he's not up for trade. He also has to be renewed so a team over the 1st apron sees him as trading for an extra 20m plus in salary. Like a poison pill of sorts. It's also why Sexton and kessler in the same deal might be even more unrealistic. Thanks to his pending renewal Lakers only trade for Kessler with the intention to extend and give him Rui's cap allocation. Basically trading Kessler likely means shedding Rui sooner rather than later not using him to take on more baggage.

It's also why Ainge should wait to renew him if they want that kind of return from anyone. It's like he wants to eat his cake and have it by not wanting to pay him and still wanting maximum value. It's not a practical trade chip.

Edit well someone floated expanding the deal to include others so idk. Maybe Jazz won't mind converting sexton to smaller contracts and expirings.

What??

Kessler big appeal rn is his contract is so cheap for this year and next. Once he’s getting 25-30m, definitely not sending all these assets for him

[zimpy27]

Give me some names

Who are those stars?

I bet many teams like SA, Hou, OKC, etc can outbid us

Utah reportedly wants Knecht and both picks

Thats too much, Knecht, 1 1st, and unprotecting is the most I can see

If they dont want to play ball, then u gota see what Indi wants for Turner and what portland wants for Rw3

Theres a ton of C's available or can be available

Many of these teams are horribly run and dont get assets when they should, for ex CHI could have sold higher on Vuc before

Or Was could have reportedly gotten a decent amount for Kuzma the other year

list goes on and on

Trae, Kyrie, Fox, Lauri

Trae and Reaves would be horribly defensively

Unless you got AR moving in the deal

Does that make us good enough?

Why would Mavs move Kyrie?

I don’t see Sac moving Fox to us/rn. Also same questions defensively with AR

How would front court defense be with Lebron and Lauri? Probably too slow and transition D could be a worry

If you don't get an extension then I think the teams trade these guys. Yes Reaves involved.

[nzahir]

Trae, Kyrie, Fox, Lauri

Trae and Reaves would be horribly defensively

Unless you got AR moving in the deal

Does that make us good enough?

Why would Mavs move Kyrie?

I don’t see Sac moving Fox to us/rn. Also same questions defensively with AR

How would front court defense be with Lebron and Lauri? Probably too slow and transition D could be a worry

If you don't get an extension then I think the teams trade these guys. Yes Reaves involved.

Funny timing, but Fox doesn’t want LA

So down to 3 guys and I don’t see Kyrie being moved

So 2 guys and 1 who isn’t a good defensive fit I think in Lauri

[zimpy27]

Trae and Reaves would be horribly defensively

Unless you got AR moving in the deal

Does that make us good enough?

Why would Mavs move Kyrie?

I don’t see Sac moving Fox to us/rn. Also same questions defensively with AR

How would front court defense be with Lebron and Lauri? Probably too slow and transition D could be a worry

If you don't get an extension then I think the teams trade these guys. Yes Reaves involved.

Funny timing, but Fox doesn’t want LA

So down to 3 guys and I don’t see Kyrie being moved

So 2 guys and 1 who isn’t a good defensive fit I think in Lauri

Kyrie is a free agent. Yeah Fox to Spurs seems to be a thing.

I'd be watching if Kings blow up, get DeMar for cheap.