2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2

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How does Sergio de Larrea compare with Jak?

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The way he moves reminds me of Tyler Herro, but a pure PG.

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Warming up to Noah Penda as an OG level player if we make the play-in and there are no clear star prospects left

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How does Sergio de Larrea compare with Jak?

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The way he moves reminds me of Tyler Herro, but a pure PG.

This guy looks really good. If anything, I think he's the most Doncic-like prospect with that combination of size, vision and shooting. Seems very crafty too. Seeing how he looks against grown men (especially the top Spanish league), can't help but think he'd be very dominant in the NCAA.

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Fleming looks like this years JDub. He’s gonna kill it in workouts and go earlier than mocked

I wouldn’t go as far as being the next JDub because he had better handles but I’ve said it a few times now, I’m taking Rasheer over CMB personally.

Same. Not that CMB is weak, just that Fleming looks better to me.

Fleming looks to be more a 3&D from stats, unsure how this is compared to JDub

Previously posted:

Bothm Flemming (20.9) and Thiero (21.1) are just a few months apart, but they are a bit different on offense.

Flemming (more a 3&D with mostly assisted, usage will be limited as it relies on assist)

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Tot    Pct.       Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed       Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed       Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed
29-31   93.5%      74-107   69.2%   63.5%      2-7   28.6%   100.0%      35-84   41.7%   97.1%


Thiero (mid-range with mostly unassisted, not able to shoot spotup 3)

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33-35   94.3%      66-92   71.7%   42.4%      33-62   53.2%   27.3%      6-29   20.7%   100.0%


Meanwhile, Queen is a year older than freshman (20.5), along with Penda and Mgbako.
CMD and Toppin are close to the freshman age (20, a month older than Edgecombe, while Flagg will be 18.5)

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How does Sergio de Larrea compare with Jak?

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The way he moves reminds me of Tyler Herro, but a pure PG.

This guy looks really good. If anything, I think he's the most Doncic-like prospect with that combination of size, vision and shooting. Seems very crafty too. Seeing how he looks against grown men (especially the top Spanish league), can't help but think he'd be very dominant in the NCAA.

I see he's only played 120 minutes this season for Valencia? Just turned 19, good stats, tiny sample size.

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No brainer for me; Jak.

You'd take Jak with the 4th pick over other guards like Tre Johnson, Fland, Demin, Traore? Those guys are all so hyped haven't heard any hype around Jak. I know he's big and can shoot but how is his defense? Will he be able to stay on the floor in the NBA? I watched Illinois play Michigan state the other day and did not even notice him on the court. I would've thought Will Riley Canadian kid was their lottery pick.

If you’re taking guys like Demin, Fland, and Traore over Jak you’re going to be disappointed. Tre Johnson is above VJ on my board, so I’d be okay with him. But Jak is a monster. He’ll be in that category of guy that you have to incorporate into team defensive schemes because of how much he improves your team offensively. I don’t see why he can’t be a neutral defender.

You mentioned the one game where the referees took him out of the game. Seriously? They fouled him out in 9 minutes which is absolutely ridiculous. On the season Jak is at 16/5/5 on 49/37/87 shooting splits, with a ridiculous .643 ts%

Riley is at 10/4/2 on 38/31/69 splits. Take Riley over Jak if you want, but it won’t end well for you.

Added Tre Johnson and Riley.
I still have Fears over Jakucionis, as it seems Jakucionis is more a pull up shooter

Fland (not a good finisher at rim, good 3 point shooter, and mainly mid-range shooter)

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0-0   0%         18-49   36.7%   27.8%      39-90   43.3%   17.9%      35-96   36.5%   57.1%


Philion (good rim pressure, not very good from 3s and mostly assisted)

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3-3   100.0%      48-76   63.2%   16.7%      15-33   45.5%   6.7%      18-65   27.7%   94.4%


Fears (good rim pressure, not very good from 3s, but can create at 3 levels)

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5-5   100.0%      55-88   62.5%   27.3%      24-52   46.2%   8.3%      18-68   26.5%   50.0%


Jakucionis (good finishing at rim, very good 3 point shooter who can create from pull up 3s)

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1-1   100.0%      34-51   66.7%   29.4%      11-25   44.0%   0.0%      32-79   40.5%   34.4%


Riley (good finishing at rim, nothing else is good)

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2-2   100.0%      25-41   61.0%   48.0%      16-53   30.2%   6.3%      25-80   31.3%   72.0%


Johnson (good finishing at rim, very good creating at mid-range, good spot up 3 point shooter)

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6-7   85.7%      25-37   67.6%   24.0%      51-114   44.7%   17.6%      45-118   38.1%   75.6%


Note, all of them are having usage between 22% - 26%, except Fears with 35% usage rate.
As for TS, Jakucionis at 66%, Fears at 58%, Fland and Philion around 51%.
Passing rate is about the same for Jakucionis, Fears and Fland between 30% - 31%, while Philion around 22%

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How does Sergio de Larrea compare with Jak?

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The way he moves reminds me of Tyler Herro, but a pure PG.

This guy looks really good. If anything, I think he's the most Doncic-like prospect with that combination of size, vision and shooting. Seems very crafty too. Seeing how he looks against grown men (especially the top Spanish league), can't help but think he'd be very dominant in the NCAA.

If he's like a legit 6'7 (assuming to make up for wingspan), I think his ceiling is SGA.

More likely a more athletic Nikola Topic, that can shoot 3's better.

https://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Sergio-de-Larrea/595222

With inconsistent PT, looks like his 3 and A/T seems the same whether playing Spain League or Eurocup (2nd to Euroleague) games.

I think Sergio is a better prospect than Ben Saraf, do to more playmaking and slight edge in height and handles. Maybe it's because he's a lefty but Ben looks like Goran Dragic.

Hugo Gonzalez plays for Real Madrid so PT is tough to come by but he looks like Rudy Fernandez; very athletic. Though like Saraf, hasn't really shot a high % from 3 yet.

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How does Sergio de Larrea compare with Jak?

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The way he moves reminds me of Tyler Herro, but a pure PG.

This guy looks really good. If anything, I think he's the most Doncic-like prospect with that combination of size, vision and shooting. Seems very crafty too. Seeing how he looks against grown men (especially the top Spanish league), can't help but think he'd be very dominant in the NCAA.

If he's like a legit 6'7 (assuming to make up for wingspan), I think his ceiling is SGA.

More likely a more athletic Nikola Topic, that can shoot 3's better.

https://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Sergio-de-Larrea/595222

With inconsistent PT, looks like his 3 and A/T seems the same whether playing Spain League or Eurocup (2nd to Euroleague) games.

I think Sergio is a better prospect than Ben Saraf, do to more playmaking and slight edge in height and handles. Maybe it's because he's a lefty but Ben looks like Goran Dragic.

Hugo Gonzalez plays for Real Madrid so PT is tough to come by but he looks like Rudy Fernandez; very athletic. Though like Saraf, hasn't really shot a high % from 3 yet.

Not seeing him creating much separation. The highlights are more against broken play or defense making mistakes, which maybe less against NBA teams. He is no way compare to SGA without that quickness and athleticism.

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People seriously think Silver would land us Wemby to call we messed up?
I doubted Flagg as well, but there are few good players in the mix this year and next year.

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Not seeing him creating much separation. The highlights are more against broken play or defense making mistakes, which maybe less against NBA teams. He is no way compare to SGA without that quickness and athleticism.

I think Sergio has crafty footwork.

https://www.si.com/nba/draft/prospect-profiles/nba-draft-scouting-report-alabama-clifford-omoruyi

It might take a few years like Jakobe's progression. Seems like he grew from 6'5 to 6'6 (some say 6'7 so I guess that's in shoes but still great size for a PG/SG).

Tankathon has him up to #24. I wonder if spots switch around with Saraf #14 and Gonzalez #19.

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The thing I worry about with Sergio is his defense. I need to watch more of him. If he can work himself into a neutral defender he skyrockets up the board.

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Jak or VJ? (Or other)

What position is Jak supposed to guard in the NBA, you take VJ and leave the other 29 seconds trying to move up with your 2nd

Do we really care what position a lead ballhandler guard is supposed to guard? If he generates enough offense it is worth it and then you hide him like New York does with Brunson, Indiana does with Hali, Houston did with Harden, Golden State did with Steph, Cleveland does with Garland, Houston does with Green, Memphis does with Morant, etc.

For me, I always look offense first in the top 5. This is the type of player that will hopefully be tasked to run your offense, or have the ball go through you.

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Gun to your head, Raptors have the 4th pick and you got 30 seconds

Jak or VJ? (Or other)

What position is Jak supposed to guard in the NBA, you take VJ and leave the other 29 seconds trying to move up with your 2nd

Do we really care what position a lead ballhandler guard is supposed to guard? If he generates enough offense it is worth it and then you hide him like New York does with Brunson, Indiana does with Hali, Houston did with Harden, Golden State did with Steph, Cleveland does with Garland, Houston does with Green, Memphis does with Morant, etc.

For me, I always look offense first in the top 5. This is the type of player that will hopefully be tasked to run your offense, or have the ball go through you.

Especially ones who show an elite ability to read defences at 19 years old.

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Not seeing him creating much separation. The highlights are more against broken play or defense making mistakes, which maybe less against NBA teams. He is no way compare to SGA without that quickness and athleticism.

I think Sergio has crafty footwork.

https://www.si.com/nba/draft/prospect-profiles/nba-draft-scouting-report-alabama-clifford-omoruyi

It might take a few years like Jakobe's progression. Seems like he grew from 6'5 to 6'6 (some say 6'7 so I guess that's in shoes but still great size for a PG/SG).

Tankathon has him up to #24. I wonder if spots switch around with Saraf #14 and Gonzalez #19.

Sergio may need to have more usage to see if he can be higher.

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Gun to your head, Raptors have the 4th pick and you got 30 seconds

Jak or VJ? (Or other)

What position is Jak supposed to guard in the NBA, you take VJ and leave the other 29 seconds trying to move up with your 2nd

Do we really care what position a lead ballhandler guard is supposed to guard? If he generates enough offense it is worth it and then you hide him like New York does with Brunson, Indiana does with Hali, Houston did with Harden, Golden State did with Steph, Cleveland does with Garland, Houston does with Green, Memphis does with Morant, etc.

For me, I always look offense first in the top 5. This is the type of player that will hopefully be tasked to run your offense, or have the ball go through you.

It's hard not to think this is the year to get a lead ballhandler and then next year we have a couple firsts and maybe can look to fill a hole with at least one of the picks, BPA with the other.

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People seriously think Silver would land us Wemby to call we messed up?
I doubted Flagg as well, but there are few good players in the mix this year and next year.

Still shocked we didn't win the lotto last year. International Players projected to go #1 in the weakest draft possibly ever, everything lined up for it to be rigged for us.

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Gun to your head, Raptors have the 4th pick and you got 30 seconds

Jak or VJ? (Or other)

What position is Jak supposed to guard in the NBA, you take VJ and leave the other 29 seconds trying to move up with your 2nd

Do we really care what position a lead ballhandler guard is supposed to guard? If he generates enough offense it is worth it and then you hide him like New York does with Brunson, Indiana does with Hali, Houston did with Harden, Golden State did with Steph, Cleveland does with Garland, Houston does with Green, Memphis does with Morant, etc.

For me, I always look offense first in the top 5. This is the type of player that will hopefully be tasked to run your offense, or have the ball go through you.

No way on earth you see Jak in the same vain as those guys? I don't. I think he's much closer to Podz or in that I'll coming out compared to 1st options on contenders. Like you would move off of Quickly for Jak right now? I wouldn't

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What position is Jak supposed to guard in the NBA, you take VJ and leave the other 29 seconds trying to move up with your 2nd

Do we really care what position a lead ballhandler guard is supposed to guard? If he generates enough offense it is worth it and then you hide him like New York does with Brunson, Indiana does with Hali, Houston did with Harden, Golden State did with Steph, Cleveland does with Garland, Houston does with Green, Memphis does with Morant, etc.

For me, I always look offense first in the top 5. This is the type of player that will hopefully be tasked to run your offense, or have the ball go through you.

No way on earth you see Jak in the same vain as those guys? I don't. I think he's much closer to Podz or in that I'll coming out compared to 1st options on contenders. Like you would move off of Quickly for Jak right now? I wouldn't

Why not though? Brunson wasn't supposed to be this good. Hali has dropped off, Garland isn't wild, but Harden and Steph is pretty outlandish lol