Thompson Twins faster than young Westbrook; Lebron has NEVER seen anything like it even in the mirror

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Re: Thompson Twins faster than young Westbrook; Lebron has NEVER seen anything like it even in the mirror 

Post#101 » by sashaturiaf » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:43 am

Beacon wrote:Both Amen (Amun) and Ausar (Osiris) are significant gods in ancient Egyptian mythology. Amun was associated with creation and the hidden forces of life, often merged with the sun god Ra to become Amun-Ra, the king of the gods. Osiris was the god of the afterlife, resurrection, and fertility, ruling over the underworld.


That's a cool fact and almost turned my opinion on their names. But finding out in their thread that their second names are XLNC just double confirmed everything I thought. I know they can't choose their names but what cringe humans
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Post#102 » by hardenASG13 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:30 pm

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hardenASG13 wrote:The Thompson twins are definitely a cut above the rest of the league athletically. Certainly have a case over anyone else in the league currently.
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Giannis definitely has a case, although if the Thompson twins were his size, they'd be the next Giannis. Have you noticed what Amen is doing, year 2 after not even playing a ton his rookie year? He's as good or better than year 2 Giannis. They are all freak athletes though.
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Post#103 » by hippesthippo » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:45 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:
Beacon wrote:Both Amen (Amun) and Ausar (Osiris) are significant gods in ancient Egyptian mythology. Amun was associated with creation and the hidden forces of life, often merged with the sun god Ra to become Amun-Ra, the king of the gods. Osiris was the god of the afterlife, resurrection, and fertility, ruling over the underworld.


That's a cool fact and almost turned my opinion on their names. But finding out in their thread that their second names are XLNC just double confirmed everything I thought. I know they can't choose their names but what cringe humans


You know you're a hater when you have to turn to a person's name to try and discredit them. It doesn't say a damn thing about them as humans. At most, it indicates their parents are a bit eccentric because they chose some esoteric names for their children. Your posts on this topic make me cringe because they have absolutely nothing to do with basketball.
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Re: Thompson Twins faster than young Westbrook; Lebron has NEVER seen anything like it even in the mirror 

Post#104 » by Sane » Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:26 am

So the real question you have to start asking yourself is:

Aren't teams sagging off Amen the way they do Ben Simmons and Russell Westbrook? The answer is yes and it's not working. He's too fast, strong and creative.



Will Amen's lack of a shot hamper his ability to make large-scale net impact on the score of games - as you would expect from a top draft pick? Is Amen SO athletic that he's the only perimeter player on the planet who can have a star-like impact without being able to shoot 3's?

It is mathematically possible. Whether he'll achieve that remains to be seen. Plus his midrange jumper and free throws are improving so fast, I don't know if he'll be a bad shooter for more than 1-2 years. Are fans starting to get more of a feel for who he is offensively?
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Post#105 » by MoreyWins » Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:57 pm

Slim Zion with unbelievable motor for both ends of the ball
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Post#106 » by benhillboy » Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:58 pm

Sane wrote:So the real question you have to start asking yourself is:

Aren't teams sagging off Amen the way they do Ben Simmons and Russell Westbrook? The answer is yes and it's not working. He's too fast, strong and creative.



Will Amen's lack of a shot hamper his ability to make large-scale net impact on the score of games - as you would expect from a top draft pick? Is Amen SO athletic that he's the only perimeter player on the planet who can have a star-like impact without being able to shoot 3's?

It is mathematically possible. Whether he'll achieve that remains to be seen. Plus his midrange jumper and free throws are improving so fast, I don't know if he'll be a bad shooter for more than 1-2 years. Are fans starting to get more of a feel for who he is offensively?

He’s already answered your questions, in the 95th percentile in EPM. He has a CP3/ Derrick White/ Tim Duncan level grasp on every two-way brass tack and nuance that affects point differential, with his foundation being relentlessness on the offensive glass and total termination of weakside action on defense.
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Post#107 » by ValvPiti » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:02 pm

Amen is a few years and a proper jump shot away from being a top 5 player in the game
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Post#108 » by Pablo Escobar » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:18 pm

Haven't seen that type of speed to the rim since prime D-Rose. Freaky athleticism.
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Post#109 » by DCasey91 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:26 pm

All i know Rose is the most overrated athlete of all time. Westbrook and Bron have a distinct weight and natural power advantage among pretty much everybody around their size

Thompson twins are elite no doubt but the above counts for a heck of alot. Barrel chest off pure genetics = bowling balls but really really fkn quick

I have zero doubt Westbrook and Wade for that matter would be pro in any sport literally any. Perfectly made for it
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Post#110 » by zimpy27 » Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:32 pm

Amen to this era is like Jordan to his era in terms of athleticism relative to competition.

You can see from his drives just how hard it is to defend him. I wish Amen was on a much worse team because I think if you let him run free he'd already handle a 30+ PPG on average efficiency. It's just looks so easy for him to score.
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Post#111 » by Redmoon » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:40 am

zimpy27 wrote:Amen to this era is like Jordan to his era in terms of athleticism relative to competition.

You can see from his drives just how hard it is to defend him. I wish Amen was on a much worse team because I think if you let him run free he'd already handle a 30+ PPG on average efficiency. It's just looks so easy for him to score.


The rockets win from their defense and rebounding...there is no 'scorer' on the rockets. Don't even mention Jalen green or sengun :lol: . If Amen was like that he would already be a top scorer in the league. I've said this already in an earlier post but Amen is probably closest to Jordan in terms of sheer athleticism. They share a lot of similar traits - MJ would be the same type of outlier you see Amen is right now no question.
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Post#112 » by Daddy 801 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:47 am

Not arguing he is or isn’t as explosive as the twins. But Wall in his prime, pre injuries, etc was crazy fast/athletic. Just wanna give him his props. That’s all.
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Post#113 » by Pelly24 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:23 am

Amen is really a very, very special athlete. Maybe even MJ-like. Idk if his leaping is quite as functionally great. but he's up there.


Complex had an interesting list come out this year ranking the top 25 players under 25, and the description of Thompson and his athletic ability was really accurate:

There’s a world where Thompson sits near the very top of this list. In that one, potentially a few years down the line, he’s developed a consistent jumper while leveraging his rim pressure to generate more open looks for his teammates, plays elite multi-positional defense, and averages 25/5/5. In the current one, he stands as a tantalizing prospect who’s already become a key contributor to the No. 3 seed Houston Rockets.

While he’s largely come off the bench, he’s quickly established himself as an impactful two-way force. Unlike most elite run/jump athletes with his size, he blends twitchy burst and vertical lift with hyper-refined movement skills; think Ja Morant or Dwyane Wade. He can slither as easily as he can explode. It’s an omni-directionality that’s made him an opposing team’s most frustrating quandary; he can beat you to the spot, but you can’t stop him from getting to his.

This isn’t just conjecture. Opponents are shooting just 21% and scoring just .55 points per possession against Amen in ISO situations. That’s good for 92nd percentile in the league. Once he’s at the rim, he’s shooting a Peak LeBronian 77%. These contributions help make the Rockets a serious threat. He’s averaging a fairly modest 12.6 points, 7 rebounds, and 2.4 assists on a strong 61 TS% right now, but as his volume increases and his skills sharpen, he could find himself on a Jalen Williams-esque trajectory as a devastating scorer with All-NBA defense capabilities.
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Post#114 » by Ito » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:33 pm

Lebron has never seen anything like anything before, Lebron is blind he only sees the court, with perfect court vision, while on the court.
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Post#115 » by UcanUwill » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:31 pm

MrBigShot wrote:Neither Thompson Twin is on par with younger LeBron athletically. He was every bit as fast as these two while jumping just as high and being much, MUCH stronger.

That being said they are elite athletes. The speed, change of direction, lightning quick second jump, leaping ability, explosiveness, and the ease at which they do it is pretty special.


I think it would be fair to say that LeBron was more useful athlete with the combo of his size and strength, which is indeed superior, he is probably most unstoppable transition player ever, but no, he was not running JUST AS FAST, and he was not JUMPING JUST AS HIGH, thats just a lie.
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Post#116 » by Airmiess » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:36 pm

They do move like Ant, Kobe, MJ, AI, Bron etc.
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Post#117 » by MrBigShot » Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:27 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
MrBigShot wrote:Neither Thompson Twin is on par with younger LeBron athletically. He was every bit as fast as these two while jumping just as high and being much, MUCH stronger.

That being said they are elite athletes. The speed, change of direction, lightning quick second jump, leaping ability, explosiveness, and the ease at which they do it is pretty special.


I think it would be fair to say that LeBron was more useful athlete with the combo of his size and strength, which is indeed superior, he is probably most unstoppable transition player ever, but no, he was not running JUST AS FAST, and he was not JUMPING JUST AS HIGH, thats just a lie.





Thompson twins accelerate faster but once young LeBron was at top speed he was as fast as all but a few guards in the league.
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Post#118 » by Shock Defeat » Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:29 pm

Airmiess wrote:They do move like Ant, Kobe, MJ, AI, Bron etc.

Ant's athleticism seems overrated to me. If he was that good, he would be living in the paint not jacking up threes at a historic rate. This tells me he can't get to the basket the way he would want to.
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Post#119 » by reamily » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:18 pm

There is still wear and tear in bumps.. dwade prime is short and he is a slash first player, we all know d rose, even harden who lives on fishing fouls also looked lien a past prime player at 35..so ant chucking up threes to lessen the mileage might be a strategic decision
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Post#120 » by alebaba » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:15 pm

Shock Defeat wrote:
Airmiess wrote:They do move like Ant, Kobe, MJ, AI, Bron etc.

Ant's athleticism seems overrated to me. If he was that good, he would be living in the paint not jacking up threes at a historic rate. This tells me he can't get to the basket the way he would want to.


Hes a crazy leaper that doesn't need much space to take off, but in term of agility and quick first step, its average not elite.

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