24-25 Trade Thread

[codydaze]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10151886-nba-rumors-kings-not-in-cam-johnson-talks-will-aggressively-explore-trade-options

According to NBA reporter Marc Stein, the Kings have been "frequently mentioned this month as an aggressive trade suitor for the Nets' sharpshooter, but league sources told The Stein Line on Wednesday that there have been no discussions between the Kings and Nets regarding Johnson for weeks. Sources say that the Kings, at this juncture, do not see a pathway to a workable Johnson deal with the Nets."

Stein added that the Kings are "aggressively exploring their trade options in advance of the deadline but do not appear to be close to the forefront of the Johnson chase as we speak."

Reports have suggested that the two sides might be close to a deal, haggling over draft assets involved, though Stein's report suggested otherwise.

Marc Stein reporting we are out on Cam Johnson and have been for weeks. I think it's pretty obvious John Collins will be a King by the deadline.

[BoogieTime]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10151886-nba-rumors-kings-not-in-cam-johnson-talks-will-aggressively-explore-trade-options

According to NBA reporter Marc Stein, the Kings have been "frequently mentioned this month as an aggressive trade suitor for the Nets' sharpshooter, but league sources told The Stein Line on Wednesday that there have been no discussions between the Kings and Nets regarding Johnson for weeks. Sources say that the Kings, at this juncture, do not see a pathway to a workable Johnson deal with the Nets."

Stein added that the Kings are "aggressively exploring their trade options in advance of the deadline but do not appear to be close to the forefront of the Johnson chase as we speak."

Reports have suggested that the two sides might be close to a deal, haggling over draft assets involved, though Stein's report suggested otherwise.

Marc Stein reporting we are out on Cam Johnson and have been for weeks. I think it's pretty obvious John Collins will be a King by the deadline.

The nets will take one pick or there is nothing to talk about. Rather have Collins or Kuzma cheap otherwise

[OGSactownballer]

Patrick Williams could be the next PJ Washington.

I clearly prefer to trade for him rather than Cameron Johnson.

I can get with this if he’s gettable in the cheap.

His deal is actually pretty reasonable. And it’s entirely possible that Doug lights a fire under him and brings out the best. More likely is that his best role is brought into focus and he gets used as a rotational player rather than having the expectations of pick four in Chicago.

And I absolutely would prefer something like this to anything to do with Cam. That ship was never in port for me and should have sailed long ago.

[BoogieTime]

Fox’s value is being lowered by his play…

He’s going to be forcibly on this team in a bit

It is not good for those of us who want a break

[The Beam King]

It just depends on the offer to me. But if hes holding the franchise hostage I'd move him before it became a problem.

Im just not excited about the Rockets deal. Jabari, reed, picks? A stiff forward, a guard who doesn't look like he's going to be much physically, and some late firsts.

Im higher on the spurs deal even if castle is held out.

Sochan, vassell, Collins, 2025 1st, 27 1st, swap canceled for fox, huerter, Len.

Sabonis/lyles/Collins
Keegan/sochan
Derozan/
Vassel/Keon
Monk/Carter

Id worry about closing games in the playoffs, but at least it would be a fun fast paced team. And adding sochan/vassell/Collins brings a ton of size and defense.

I would definitely ask for Jalen Green (or Eason & Whitmore) but from what I understand, Green isn't eligible to be traded until the offseason.

It comes down to how much faith you have in the potential of Smith Jr, and Reed. I think Smith Jr has pretty good ceiling. His career numbers are very similar to Keegan but Smith Jr is younger than Keegan.

And about Reed. I thought his stock was inflated coming into the draft. But he is still pretty young and just destroyed G-League competition in his debut. I don't want to write him off just yet.

Is it enough for Fox? I don't think so. But if this is the only trade package offered to the Kings, I'll take it tbh

But yeah, I like the Spurs package more though.

Jabari is similar to Keegan (only worse imo) and yes he's younger but the times I watch him he doesn't really impress me. I just don't see him as a top player in a Fox package.

Reed gives me smaller Jimmer/Stauskas ptsd. Isaac Jones and Crawford are lighting up gleague, I'm not moved by that. Maybe I'll be dead wrong, but I do not want him at all.

Eason is nice, but the convo on the t&t board with rockets fans was the team has zero interest in moving Eason/Amen, which are the two who really make the most sense for sac.

I don't see the rush in moving Fox. His body language and actions tell me he's not unhappy. He wants the team to improve, so do we. He and his wife love it here and I think he wants to win in sac. We saw a series with monk/Fox and the 2 worked well together, I don't see having both as a fit issue. Maybe the 3 including derozan doesn't work as well, but you trade the 35 year old not the 2 best friends imo.

That's delusional to think you won't trade at least one core prospect for the other teams "best" player. It's stupid talk.

One or the other would be the centerpiece if a package regarding Fox getting moved.

[LightTheBeam]

So Huerter finally gets his 1st DNP. Kings have been in NY the last 3-4 days, and are sticking nearby in Philly for tomorrow.

If Cam is going to be a King, its today or never right?

[OGSactownballer]

So Huerter finally gets his 1st DNP. Kings have been in NY the last 3-4 days, and are sticking nearby in Philly for tomorrow.

If Cam is going to be a King, its today or never right?

No.

That sort of thing actually happens only rarely. It has nothing to do with where they are.

[LightTheBeam]

So Huerter finally gets his 1st DNP. Kings have been in NY the last 3-4 days, and are sticking nearby in Philly for tomorrow.

If Cam is going to be a King, its today or never right?

No.

That sort of thing actually happens only rarely. It has nothing to do with where they are.

IDK man. I remember lots of times in the past where teams would end up playing eachother and then a trade is done that day. The GM's get a chance to sit face to face and hash out deals.

I still hope we don't go for Cam at any of the rumored prices. His latest Ankle injury is just another one of many that has held him out of games in the past. His availability, age, size, meh defense are all cons to me

[codydaze]

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[codydaze]

What do you think his target destination is? Houston? San Antonio?

[KF10]

What do you think his target destination is? Houston? San Antonio?

I would say San Antonio unless Miami pulls in late

[KF10]

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[OxAndFox]

What do you think his target destination is? Houston? San Antonio?

Favorites would be Spurs IMO.
Dark horse is Lakers.

[LightTheBeam]

If we get Castle I'll be extremely happy. He's a legit stud who can lead this team the next 10 years.

If it's for Vassell + Sochan + Picks that's meh, but I can live with it.

If it's no Castle, no Vassell and just Keldon + Sochan + picks, I'd be sick to my stomach.

[BoogieTime]

Thank you De’aaron, as I’m not sure Vivek would have gotten rid of you by himself

[City of Trees]

If the unnamed team is the Spurs, I’d think they’d want to make a deal now rather than wait 1.5 years. A lot can change in that time. Fox is a star entering his prime and would have a bigger impact on Wemby's development than Sochan, Vassell, or even the rook Castle.

Some might disagree but I think the Spurs would be smart to make a fair deal now. For me, Vassell + Sochan + picks is the floor.

It’s not the flashiest return, but both players have a great feel for the game, are versatile, and have contracts under the Kings control for years....so there's no rental risk.

I love Monk but with that said, trading Fox leaves a big hole at PG. Could they flip Huerter for one?

Lastly, the addition of DeRozan allows the Kings to trade Fox now without a complete team collapse. Well played if that thought went into the overall decision to sign DD.

[City of Trees]

Thank you De’aaron, as I’m not sure Vivek would have gotten rid of you by himself

Boogie is ready to pop bottles! First one is on me !

[Sacramento_King]

If the unnamed team is the Spurs, I’d think they’d want to make a deal now rather than wait 1.5 years. A lot can change in that time. Fox is a star entering his prime and would have a bigger impact on Wemby's development than Sochan, Vassell, or even the rook Castle.

Some might disagree but I think the Spurs would be smart to make a fair deal now. For me, Vassell + Sochan + picks is the floor.

It’s not the flashiest return, but both players have a great feel for the game, are versatile, and have contracts under the Kings control for years....so there's no rental risk.

I love Monk but with that said, trading Fox leaves a big hole at PG. Could they flip Huerter for one?

Lastly, the addition of DeRozan allows the Kings to trade Fox now without a complete team collapse. Well played if that thought went into the overall decision to sign DD.

Would you trade with Spurs without getting Castle back? I feel like he is a must for any Fox trade with Spurs.

[Silver Man]

I'm just glad we traded Haliburton because him and Fox couldn't coexist. Never a dull moment surrounding Sacramento.

[codydaze]

I'm just glad we traded Haliburton because him and Fox couldn't coexist. Never a dull moment surrounding Sacramento.

I mean, I definitely don't see us having the same type of success with a Fox/Hali backcourt and no Sabonis. Maybe we find another big or star to complement them and have success but do you have the confidence in Monte he could have found those pieces?