Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion

[VirginiaKnickFan]

I would be surprised if it's the price.

Dadiet trade value is almost zero. He is a salary filler right now. His G league numbers are awful and he does not have any great skill. He only has potential because he has a great size, mobility, and a good shooting touch. He reminds Knox at his age.

Kolek is a great GLeague player. But we do not know his impact on the NBA. Players with his size are always a question mark. His draft position was not an accident. I think his trade value is not very high. Maybe a late first right now.

We do not have firsts anymore. I will be surprised if the Was pick conveys one day. No team will bet this pick will convey.

2030 first is considered valuable.

You are severely underrating Kolek who has shown absolutely high NBA court vision and elite passing already.

Dadiet is developmental but Utah liked him and brought him in for a workout.

I dont think some team is going to blow our offer out of the water for a Walker Kessler. We have a greater need for the role he provides than other teams too.

We can't trade 2030 first. Only swap it.

We have only Was fist pick to trade. If it does not convey next season, it will become 2 seconds in 2027 draft, the second and third better second from OKC, Houston, Miami and Indiana). It probably will be 45th and 55th pick in the 2027 draft.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team


Utah brought Dadiet to a workout to see if he was worth a second round. Now, he showed everybody he is still very raw shooting 39/25/79, and 2,6 TOs for a wing at the G league. Utah should rather take their chances with another rookie in the next draft. We must keep him because he has guaranteed money.

Kolek is a excellent Gleague player. But he has a small frame. You need to be truly special to be a rotational NBA player of his size. It is not proven. Besides, you can not have many small players on the roster because they are not as dynamic as wings. Even considering Clarkson and Sexton are almost gone, the Jazz already have Colier and George as PGs for the future. I am not so sure if they have room for another small PG. Perhaps, we would need a third team. Besides, in every draft, there are a lot of small PGs to choose from.

Teams such as the Lakers are looking for a big.

Yep. The Lakers offered their 2027 and 2029 #1 picks along with a combination of players and Ainge flat out rejected it. The Knicks after the Bridges trade are not going to come close to any big trades, and especially when you're dealing with Utah.

[Richard4444]

We have a few firsts and the 2030 first is considered valuable.

You are severely underrating Kolek who has shown absolutely high NBA court vision and elite passing already.

Dadiet is developmental but Utah liked him and brought him in for a workout.

I dont think some team is going to blow our offer out of the water for a Walker Kessler. We have a greater need for the role he provides than other teams too.

We can't trade 2030 first. Only swap it.

We have only Was fist pick to trade. If it does not convey next season, it will become 2 seconds in 2027 draft, the second and third better second from OKC, Houston, Miami and Indiana). It probably will be 45th and 55th pick in the 2027 draft.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team


Utah brought Dadiet to a workout to see if he was worth a second round. Now, he showed everybody he is still very raw shooting 39/25/79, and 2,6 TOs for a wing at the G league. Utah should rather take their chances with another rookie in the next draft. We must keep him because he has guaranteed money.

Kolek is a excellent Gleague player. But he has a small frame. You need to be truly special to be a rotational NBA player of his size. It is not proven. Besides, you can not have many small players on the roster because they are not as dynamic as wings. Even considering Clarkson and Sexton are almost gone, the Jazz already have Colier and George as PGs for the future. I am not so sure if they have room for another small PG. Perhaps, we would need a third team. Besides, in every draft, there are a lot of small PGs to choose from.

Teams such as the Lakers are looking for a big.

Swap on 2030 when Knicks are outside their core player contract windows has value. I get some of the points you are making but are the Lakers a Klutch team going to blow our offer out of the water for a CAA client?

Stepien rule. We traded to the Nets 2029 and 2031 FRPs.

As far I know, Kluch and CAA made peace. Besides, there are not many good and small salary centers kind of available on the market.

[KnixinSix]

2030 first is considered valuable.

You are severely underrating Kolek who has shown absolutely high NBA court vision and elite passing already.

Dadiet is developmental but Utah liked him and brought him in for a workout.

I dont think some team is going to blow our offer out of the water for a Walker Kessler. We have a greater need for the role he provides than other teams too.

We can't trade 2030 first. Only swap it.

We have only Was fist pick to trade. If it does not convey next season, it will become 2 seconds in 2027 draft, the second and third better second from OKC, Houston, Miami and Indiana). It probably will be 45th and 55th pick in the 2027 draft.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team


Utah brought Dadiet to a workout to see if he was worth a second round. Now, he showed everybody he is still very raw shooting 39/25/79, and 2,6 TOs for a wing at the G league. Utah should rather take their chances with another rookie in the next draft. We must keep him because he has guaranteed money.

Kolek is a excellent Gleague player. But he has a small frame. You need to be truly special to be a rotational NBA player of his size. It is not proven. Besides, you can not have many small players on the roster because they are not as dynamic as wings. Even considering Clarkson and Sexton are almost gone, the Jazz already have Colier and George as PGs for the future. I am not so sure if they have room for another small PG. Perhaps, we would need a third team. Besides, in every draft, there are a lot of small PGs to choose from.

Teams such as the Lakers are looking for a big.

Yep. The Lakers offered their 2027 and 2029 #1 picks along with a combination of players and Ainge flat out rejected it. The Knicks after the Bridges trade are not going to come close to any big trades, and especially when you're dealing with Utah.

Maybe it is out of our ballpark... I guess it comes down more to how much does Ainge like Kolek possibly. And maybe if we were to include McBride.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

We can't trade 2030 first. Only swap it.

We have only Was fist pick to trade. If it does not convey next season, it will become 2 seconds in 2027 draft, the second and third better second from OKC, Houston, Miami and Indiana). It probably will be 45th and 55th pick in the 2027 draft.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team


Utah brought Dadiet to a workout to see if he was worth a second round. Now, he showed everybody he is still very raw shooting 39/25/79, and 2,6 TOs for a wing at the G league. Utah should rather take their chances with another rookie in the next draft. We must keep him because he has guaranteed money.

Kolek is a excellent Gleague player. But he has a small frame. You need to be truly special to be a rotational NBA player of his size. It is not proven. Besides, you can not have many small players on the roster because they are not as dynamic as wings. Even considering Clarkson and Sexton are almost gone, the Jazz already have Colier and George as PGs for the future. I am not so sure if they have room for another small PG. Perhaps, we would need a third team. Besides, in every draft, there are a lot of small PGs to choose from.

Teams such as the Lakers are looking for a big.

Yep. The Lakers offered their 2027 and 2029 #1 picks along with a combination of players and Ainge flat out rejected it. The Knicks after the Bridges trade are not going to come close to any big trades, and especially when you're dealing with Utah.

Maybe it is out of our ballpark... I guess it comes down more to how much does Ainge like Kolek possibly. And maybe if we were to include McBride.

Ainge wants picks and players. We don't have the picks, end of story.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[thebuzzardman]

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[ScienceOfLosing]

They didn't have to deal with Ainge now did they.

True but....
Ainge is not stupid and Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is definitely enough for Kessler and maybe even an overpay.

Umm...Ainge is asking for 2 #1 picks, plus players. It's not happening...book it.

I wonder if we even want him.
Richards was a great 2nd choice to Kessler but we shiz the bed there.
I don’t understand as Richards could have been had for a bargain. Why I question their desire for Kessler.

[R-DAWG]

I would contest with what would that on court impact have looked like had we had Mitch pounding the offensive glass or Randle's constant attacks or OG fully healthy?

Knicks looked very likely to win the series before OG went down.

Again, not saying Turner is a bad player. He isn't. I just don't know exactly if what he would currently add to this team is worth

A) The price
B) The fundamental change it would make to our team. Mainly no more or very limited KAT at the 5 minutes and Hart to the bench.

I wouldn't be completely against it but the FO would have to be sure this would help make us true title contenders.

Many ppl forget to factor in the new CBA and slary matching when they throw out these ideas. Turner is at 19.9

That will take either Mitch (14.3) + McBride (4.7) + 1 mill filler OR Both Mitch + Achiuwa (6M) as the main salary pieces of the deal.

I guess its possible but I doubt they would give up 3 years of McBride and 2 years of Mitch for Turner. Maybe the 2nd deal though.

Turner is a great name. He can defend in the paint while being in the perimeter when attacking letting KAT play freely.

Probably, we would have to deal Mitch + Deuce + Precious to make the math work because we need 14 players on the roster.
Mitch 14,3 + Deuce 4,7 + Precious 6 = 25M (plus every pick we have)
Turner 19,9M + JavGreen (NO) 2,1 + Another min deal 2,1 = 24,1. Then we could use the extra 0,9M (plus 0,5M we have left) to get another pro rata min deal for the 15th spot (Okeke or TJ).

But I think Indiana can get better offers for Turner.

EDIT: Besides, If we do not want to be a second-apron team next season, it is better to give up on him.

Would you prefer Turner over Anunoby the next 4 years next to Towns? I think Turners arc type is harder to find and more valuable next to Towns so I would strongly consider this. Especially with Turner making $16mm less than OG this year, savings that could be used to add another rotation piece.

Would need to be a 3 team deal - something like Anunoby to Dallas, Turner and P.J. Washington to NY, picks and filler from Dallas to Indiana.

[thebuzzardman]

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CAA client
Rebounds
Passes well for a big
Adds some offense the 2nd unit.

Can't really defend, certainly not in space.

I think Thibs values the rebounding and passing from the 5 and will advocate since the Knicks org knows Mitch is cooked.

This is a theory.
I'd rather Mitch comes back. His defense is more useful against Cleveland and Boston than what the big V would add, but I think Thibs advocates for it and Knicks feel it's best move because, again, they know Mitch is done.

Washington does it because they get pick and control of it back

[KnixinSix]

Many ppl forget to factor in the new CBA and slary matching when they throw out these ideas. Turner is at 19.9

That will take either Mitch (14.3) + McBride (4.7) + 1 mill filler OR Both Mitch + Achiuwa (6M) as the main salary pieces of the deal.

I guess its possible but I doubt they would give up 3 years of McBride and 2 years of Mitch for Turner. Maybe the 2nd deal though.

Turner is a great name. He can defend in the paint while being in the perimeter when attacking letting KAT play freely.

Probably, we would have to deal Mitch + Deuce + Precious to make the math work because we need 14 players on the roster.
Mitch 14,3 + Deuce 4,7 + Precious 6 = 25M (plus every pick we have)
Turner 19,9M + JavGreen (NO) 2,1 + Another min deal 2,1 = 24,1. Then we could use the extra 0,9M (plus 0,5M we have left) to get another pro rata min deal for the 15th spot (Okeke or TJ).

But I think Indiana can get better offers for Turner.

EDIT: Besides, If we do not want to be a second-apron team next season, it is better to give up on him.

Would you prefer Turner over Anunoby the next 4 years next to Towns? I think Turners arc type is harder to find and more valuable next to Towns so I would strongly consider this. Especially with Turner making $16mm less than OG this year, savings that could be used to add another rotation piece.

Would need to be a 3 team deal - something like Anunoby to Dallas, Turner and P.J. Washington to NY, picks and filler from Dallas to Indiana.

While the idea is interesting ....
I feel like Knicks are building something here and do not want to disrupt the main core. OG is absolutely part of that core. He also happens to be arguably the best most versatile defender in the entire NBA. He is also CAA.

[KnixinSix]

True but....
Ainge is not stupid and Kolek, Dadiet and 1st round pick is definitely enough for Kessler and maybe even an overpay.

Umm...Ainge is asking for 2 #1 picks, plus players. It's not happening...book it.

I wonder if we even want him.
Richards was a great 2nd choice to Kessler but we shiz the bed there.
I don’t understand as Richards could have been had for a bargain. Why I question their desire for Kessler.

They may not have seen Richards as that elite rim protector. There is mixed reviews on that. Knicks dont really need much except that. Elite rim defense is their only glaring weakness. We can obviously score, we can rebound , we have plenty of personell to defend the perimeter, and 1 on 1 defend. Whats missing the most is elite rim protection and 1 more guy Thibs is willing to play. Ironically that could be Mitch that could address both those needs but the health is just too much a risk.

Enter Isaiah Stewart.....

Isaiah Stewart remains an interesting option since statistically he is one of the better rim protectors in the league. Detroit and our front office seem to be pretty friendly too. Stew is not fitting in quite as well on that Detroit team as he has had in years past so they might want to get out of that contract. He is not a gifted scorer but he isnt Jared Jeffries or Elfrid Payton either and we don't need a gifted scorer.

Stew might be the one to watch.

[KnixinSix]

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CAA client
Rebounds
Passes well for a big
Adds some offense the 2nd unit.

Can't really defend, certainly not in space.

I think Thibs values the rebounding and passing from the 5 and will advocate since the Knicks org knows Mitch is cooked.

This is a theory.
I'd rather Mitch comes back. His defense is more useful against Cleveland and Boston than what the big V would add, but I think Thibs advocates for it and Knicks feel it's best move because, again, they know Mitch is done.

Washington does it because they get pick and control of it back

While I think his addition wouldn't hurt and under Thibs the D may improve a bit I like other options more. You ideally want the 5 that complements KAT to be really good at protecting the rim. I think he could help but not nearly as much as lets say Kessler, Chris Boucher or Isaiah Stewart.

[thebuzzardman]

This is the one that probably happens

CAA client
Rebounds
Passes well for a big
Adds some offense the 2nd unit.

Can't really defend, certainly not in space.

I think Thibs values the rebounding and passing from the 5 and will advocate since the Knicks org knows Mitch is cooked.

This is a theory.
I'd rather Mitch comes back. His defense is more useful against Cleveland and Boston than what the big V would add, but I think Thibs advocates for it and Knicks feel it's best move because, again, they know Mitch is done.

Washington does it because they get pick and control of it back

While I think his addition wouldn't hurt and under Thibs the D may improve a bit I like other options more. You ideally want the 5 that complements KAT to be really good at protecting the rim. I think he could help but not nearly as much as lets say Kessler, Chris Boucher or Isaiah Stewart.

I'd like other options better. I'd like Mitch being healthy and coming back even more.

This is what I think will happen, even though it's like choice #5 for me, personally.

[thebuzzardman]

Also, I get both Hart and OG played with the V, but the Knicks were WAY too chummy with him after the last Wizards game.

Somethings up.

[KnixinSix]

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Wow interesting Pelicans are bombing and want to get below lux tax threshold and are only a few million over.

Green and Theis could be had maybe for fairly cheap. I dont know how that would work since they would have to take matching salary back.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks are getting Valančiūnas and everyone will have to deal with it.

Particularly Shams, who will have to become a Wizards fan.

He's a big Kuzma fan, so that's like being halfway there anyway.

[knicksstuff]

Boucher and Agbaji for Mitch. Sims to a 3rd team for a second rounder to make it work under the CBA

[thebuzzardman]

Valančiūnas for the win (for Thibs)

[KnixinSix]

It certainly feels like there are enough options out there that we will pull off something. Though I doubt any will be as good an option as a healthy Mitch Robinson. That is my biggest hope that he comes back healthy and we give him 10-15 minutes a game and ramp up to 20-22 right before playoffs.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks get Valančiūnas yet?