Jaime in the California market makes a whole lot of sense…
2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
Moderators: KingDavid, QUIZ, heat4life, MettaWorldPanda, Wiltside, IggieCC, BFRESH44
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
- MiamiLoyal926
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,536
- And1: 2,779
- Joined: Feb 02, 2016
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
Jaime in the California market makes a whole lot of sense…
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
-
oreon
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,053
- And1: 7,596
- Joined: Jun 18, 2018
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
Ya'll still doing the fantasy Fox to Miami trades. You are setting up yourself to be disappointed. He wants Spurs who have a billion picks. Even if we get those 3 crappy picks for PHX, Spurs can easily blow our best offer out of the water.
Only shot Miami could have had is if Heat were his only destination of choice. We are not and the team that is can easily make a compelling trade. So unless we get report that Spurs aren't after Fox, it ain't happening.
Only shot Miami could have had is if Heat were his only destination of choice. We are not and the team that is can easily make a compelling trade. So unless we get report that Spurs aren't after Fox, it ain't happening.
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
-
dagger151
- Sophomore
- Posts: 188
- And1: 325
- Joined: Jun 24, 2019
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
Stop with the Fox trade ideas to Miami. Dream on fellas, unless he demands Miami, its SA or HOU all the way. We dont have the assets. Focus on dumping this Jim-ME head case to some other foolish team and get some serviceable players, including another big so we can keep playing with the starting combo of Ware-BAM-Jovic and have a good backup to spell them as needed.
Time to move on....
Time to move on....
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
- MettaWorldPanda
- Forum Mod - Heat

- Posts: 51,316
- And1: 161,155
- Joined: Nov 16, 2014
-
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
oreon wrote:Ya'll still doing the fantasy Fox to Miami trades. You are setting up yourself to be disappointed. He wants Spurs who have a billion picks. Even if we get those 3 crappy picks for PHX, Spurs can easily blow our best offer out of the water.
Only shot Miami could have had is if Heat were his only destination of choice. We are not and the team that is can easily make a compelling trade. So unless we get report that Spurs aren't after Fox, it ain't happening.
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2024/9/12/24242528/the-san-antonio-spurs-hold-the-best-collection-of-future-nba-draft-assets-victor-wembanyama-2025
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
- BadMofoPimp
- RealGM
- Posts: 49,195
- And1: 12,563
- Joined: Oct 12, 2003
- Location: In the Paint
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
Phoenix has 3 unprotected 1sts available?

Provin Ya'll Wrong!!!
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
-
BBallFreak
- Retired Mod

- Posts: 57,456
- And1: 18,658
- Joined: Jun 23, 2001
-
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
BadMofoPimp wrote:
Phoenix has 3 unprotected 1sts available?
Yes, they do.
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
-
greg4012
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,055
- And1: 12,378
- Joined: Jul 14, 2008
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
oreon wrote:Ya'll still doing the fantasy Fox to Miami trades. You are setting up yourself to be disappointed. He wants Spurs who have a billion picks. Even if we get those 3 crappy picks for PHX, Spurs can easily blow our best offer out of the water.
Only shot Miami could have had is if Heat were his only destination of choice. We are not and the team that is can easily make a compelling trade. So unless we get report that Spurs aren't after Fox, it ain't happening.
Get em! We must have silence on the board
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
-
greg4012
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,055
- And1: 12,378
- Joined: Jul 14, 2008
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
MettaWorldPanda wrote:oreon wrote:Ya'll still doing the fantasy Fox to Miami trades. You are setting up yourself to be disappointed. He wants Spurs who have a billion picks. Even if we get those 3 crappy picks for PHX, Spurs can easily blow our best offer out of the water.
Only shot Miami could have had is if Heat were his only destination of choice. We are not and the team that is can easily make a compelling trade. So unless we get report that Spurs aren't after Fox, it ain't happening.
Spurs have 4 2025 1st rd picks alone in a loaded draft class
Honestly starting to think the 2025 draft class is getting a little overrated after diving in. 2-4 nice pieces on the top. Maybe I'll continue to change my mind as I get more familiar and more ball is played.
Either way, there is no question asked if Miami is in a straight bidding war with San Antonio and both parties are motivated buyers, then there is no competition whatsoever.
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
- marson
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,170
- And1: 13,426
- Joined: Jan 03, 2012
-
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
RIP FOX PIPE DREAM
Jan 28, 2025–Jan 28, 2025
Jan 28, 2025–Jan 28, 2025
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
-
oreon
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,053
- And1: 7,596
- Joined: Jun 18, 2018
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
MettaWorldPanda wrote:oreon wrote:Ya'll still doing the fantasy Fox to Miami trades. You are setting up yourself to be disappointed. He wants Spurs who have a billion picks. Even if we get those 3 crappy picks for PHX, Spurs can easily blow our best offer out of the water.
Only shot Miami could have had is if Heat were his only destination of choice. We are not and the team that is can easily make a compelling trade. So unless we get report that Spurs aren't after Fox, it ain't happening.
Spurs have 4 2025 1st rd picks alone in a loaded draft class
I lost all hope after checking out in fansapo how much assets they had. They have 7 1st rounders + a swap from other teams that they can offer without touching their own picks. And in total they 17 1st rounders & swaps. That doesn't include 2nd rounders. Like how do the Heat compete with that. Spurs are setup to move a 2nd big trade after making the Fox trade. Depending on how much they give up for Fox, they can even do a 3rd big trade.
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
-
greg4012
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,055
- And1: 12,378
- Joined: Jul 14, 2008
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
marson wrote:RIP FOX PIPE DREAM
Jan 28, 2025–Jan 28, 2025
Hey it was born much sooner for many of us. At least let us have validation of identifying the potential opportunity.
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
- marson
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,170
- And1: 13,426
- Joined: Jan 03, 2012
-
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
greg4012 wrote:marson wrote:RIP FOX PIPE DREAM
Jan 28, 2025–Jan 28, 2025
Hey it was born much sooner for many of us. At least let us have validation of identifying the potential opportunity.
We need to be competitive at the very least and demonstrate that we're just one piece away. Sooner or later, another superstar will make a request.
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
-
twix2500
- RealGM
- Posts: 27,955
- And1: 28,278
- Joined: Dec 25, 2003
-
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
-
greg4012
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,055
- And1: 12,378
- Joined: Jul 14, 2008
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
marson wrote:greg4012 wrote:marson wrote:RIP FOX PIPE DREAM
Jan 28, 2025–Jan 28, 2025
Hey it was born much sooner for many of us. At least let us have validation of identifying the potential opportunity.
We need to be competitive at the very least and demonstrate that we're just one piece away. Sooner or later, another superstar will make a request.
Feels like its a going rate of a couple per year.
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
-
contract
- RealGM
- Posts: 13,977
- And1: 23,823
- Joined: Jan 11, 2009
- Location: on your last nerve
-
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
Flash4thewin wrote:greg4012 wrote:Flash4thewin wrote:So say Fox gets traded to the Spurs, that kills our 2026 plan right?
Would make it more about having expirings and optionality for the next potential star that's looking to be traded while under contract in the next couple years. Which I imagine was always the primary focus (including these Fox sweepstakes). Of course, Supermax limits that pool
Yeah the year after that, but the 2026 plan is dead. So that could lead to us doing some funny things. We can now pay Jimmy the one year he wanted because 2026 is toast, or we take Beal and assets because again 2026 is over. The excuse of 2026 no longer exist.
If paying Jimmy was ever in the cards, that ship has now sailed. That ship has sailed and circumnavigated the Earth a half dozen times. The guy was out on the court stealing money. The last thing you do is sign up for another year.
.

Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
- MiamiLoyal926
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,536
- And1: 2,779
- Joined: Feb 02, 2016
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
If Fox does want Miami, I am sure he learned through the Dame fiasco not to say it out loud. 
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
- DayofMourning
- Retired Mod

- Posts: 37,734
- And1: 92,568
- Joined: Jan 03, 2006
-
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
Fox to Spurs
Jimmy, Jaime, Jovic and 2042 1st rounder to Kings
Spurs 1sts in 2025 to Miami
Jimmy, Jaime, Jovic and 2042 1st rounder to Kings
Spurs 1sts in 2025 to Miami
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
-
Daffy
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 3,890
- And1: 4,952
- Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
So we went from saying Rich Paul will get Fox to his desired destination when we thought that would be Miami when in actuality it's San Antonio.
Yet if Riley doesn't pull it off he's taking blame? What happened to the Rich Paul aspect?
Yet if Riley doesn't pull it off he's taking blame? What happened to the Rich Paul aspect?
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
- insfo
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,979
- And1: 13,695
- Joined: Feb 02, 2005
- Location: Ancora Imparo
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
DayofMourning wrote:Fox to Spurs
Jimmy, Jaime, Jovic and 2042 1st rounder to Kings
Spurs 1sts in 2025 to Miami
2042
Edit: I just realized you had sneaked Jovic in there. I somehow read the whole like as JJJ and assumed it was just Jimmy & Jamie going along with the prized pick
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
- marson
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,170
- And1: 13,426
- Joined: Jan 03, 2012
-
Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA
Daffy wrote:So we went from saying Rich Paul will get Fox to his desired destination when we thought that would be Miami when in actuality it's San Antonio.
Yet if Riley doesn't pull it off he's taking blame? What happened to the Rich Paul aspect?
Bridges may still be burned, but if I’m not mistaken, Mav Carter had a conversation with Riley last year. I get the sense that Rich Paul and his top clients might start removing Miami from their list because we don’t always cater to every superstar’s demands.
That said, some Klutch role players, like Burks, could be sent here with no issues.








