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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#921 » by Jay81 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:07 am

Never liked this trade and bub has been trash. My guess is they made trade to avoid 25-30 wins
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#922 » by Jimmy Recard » Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:57 am

Hated this trade when it first happened and hate it even more now. He’s looked unreal the last month. A Bilal/Deni/Sarr front court could’ve been something special. Oh well Wiz gonna wiz.

Good for Deni. Seems to love it in Portland and the fans love him.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#923 » by AFM » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:11 pm

badinage wrote:Here’s a good piece for a journalist to do —

Put the question to all the GMs in the league: would YOU have made the deal that the Wizards made for Deni? Factoring in everything, and accounting for future value in Bub and a FRP in 2029?

Be real interesting.

My guess is 24 of 30 say NO.


Deni is 24 not 23. But to answer your question you can hear straight from front offices yourself (from the athletic):

The Wizards made two enormous decisions. First, they decided to trade Avdija for an enormous haul from the Portland Trail Blazers. This certainly surprised many around the league, as the impression that I’d gotten from speaking with league sources throughout the draft cycle was that — despite many calls made the Wizards’ direction about the 23-year-old forward — the team saw him as a big part of its core moving forward. Ultimately, it seems like they just got an offer they felt they couldn’t pass up. They received the No. 14 pick, a 2029 first-round pick, two future seconds and a player in Malcolm Brogdon that they can either keep to help facilitate the development of the team’s young players or move on to acquire more asset capital. Front offices sources who spoke with The Athletic didn’t describe the deal as an “overpay,” but they did feel like the Wizards came out exceedingly well. Even though Avdija is quite good and is on one of the best value contracts in the NBA, he probably fits a bit better on a team closer to contending than this one, where his high-level positional defense and well-rounded complementary game can help a team take that next step. More on what the Blazers are getting in Avdija in their section.



I guess the interesting question is would you do the deal in reverse--ie, would you, as a rebuilding team, trade 2 FRPs, 2 seconds, and Brogdon for Deni?
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#924 » by closg00 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:14 pm

As the season marches along, I wince often when I look at Deni's box score numbers, doesn't feel good to have Kuz & Corey while Deni ascends.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#925 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:33 pm

gambitx777 wrote:What meth have you guys been partaking in. ?

2 firsts two seconds and Brogdon on a decent contract?
For
Deni?

That was a fine trade not a terrible one. Sure I'd love to have Deni here but that's not how it worked out. It's not a terrible trade. The level of delusion that we have on this board about how good Deni was is just silly. He was a fine young player on a good contract and Portland paid a premium for him And I guarantee you most gms take that trade. I hate that we traded him! But pretending it was a bad trade because I don't like it is silly.
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The Dawkins apologist are going deep into the well now. Now they can guarantee most GMs would have done it too and that it's explainable because Bill Freaking Simmons didn't have him in his top 89 most valuable contracts. I'm mean it's adorable at this point. I'm rooting for you, you mental gymnastic gold medalist.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#926 » by nate33 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:41 pm

I was stuck in a hotel while traveling last night so I got to watch the whole game. Deni was amazing. He took over in the third quarter and put the Bucks away. He was also almost single-handedly responsible for putting the Bucks in the penalty most of the night. And he is so much more fun to watch than anyone on our team.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#927 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:43 pm

AFM wrote:
badinage wrote:Here’s a good piece for a journalist to do —

Put the question to all the GMs in the league: would YOU have made the deal that the Wizards made for Deni? Factoring in everything, and accounting for future value in Bub and a FRP in 2029?

Be real interesting.

My guess is 24 of 30 say NO.


Deni is 24 not 23. But to answer your question you can hear straight from front offices yourself (from the athletic):

The Wizards made two enormous decisions. First, they decided to trade Avdija for an enormous haul from the Portland Trail Blazers. This certainly surprised many around the league, as the impression that I’d gotten from speaking with league sources throughout the draft cycle was that — despite many calls made the Wizards’ direction about the 23-year-old forward — the team saw him as a big part of its core moving forward. Ultimately, it seems like they just got an offer they felt they couldn’t pass up. They received the No. 14 pick, a 2029 first-round pick, two future seconds and a player in Malcolm Brogdon that they can either keep to help facilitate the development of the team’s young players or move on to acquire more asset capital. Front offices sources who spoke with The Athletic didn’t describe the deal as an “overpay,” but they did feel like the Wizards came out exceedingly well. Even though Avdija is quite good and is on one of the best value contracts in the NBA, he probably fits a bit better on a team closer to contending than this one, where his high-level positional defense and well-rounded complementary game can help a team take that next step. More on what the Blazers are getting in Avdija in their section.



I guess the interesting question is would you do the deal in reverse--ie, would you, as a rebuilding team, trade 2 FRPs, 2 seconds, and Brogdon for Deni?


Imagine someone posting an article from The Athletic that second sentence claiming that the Wizards got an "enormous" haul. Another mental gymnastics Olympian here, folks.

At least your final admitting that someone told you to think it was a good trade, so you got on board.

But to the story, they didn't come out exceedingly well, they made a massive blunder with their best prospect.

I do get a good deal of satisfaction thinking about you running your mouth 11 games into the season? It'll be fun to continue to watch you try to save face. Please give us another body pillow kid, many of us have been patiently waiting for some of your coveted wit.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#928 » by AFM » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:45 pm

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
AFM wrote:
badinage wrote:Here’s a good piece for a journalist to do —

Put the question to all the GMs in the league: would YOU have made the deal that the Wizards made for Deni? Factoring in everything, and accounting for future value in Bub and a FRP in 2029?

Be real interesting.

My guess is 24 of 30 say NO.


Deni is 24 not 23. But to answer your question you can hear straight from front offices yourself (from the athletic):

The Wizards made two enormous decisions. First, they decided to trade Avdija for an enormous haul from the Portland Trail Blazers. This certainly surprised many around the league, as the impression that I’d gotten from speaking with league sources throughout the draft cycle was that — despite many calls made the Wizards’ direction about the 23-year-old forward — the team saw him as a big part of its core moving forward. Ultimately, it seems like they just got an offer they felt they couldn’t pass up. They received the No. 14 pick, a 2029 first-round pick, two future seconds and a player in Malcolm Brogdon that they can either keep to help facilitate the development of the team’s young players or move on to acquire more asset capital. Front offices sources who spoke with The Athletic didn’t describe the deal as an “overpay,” but they did feel like the Wizards came out exceedingly well. Even though Avdija is quite good and is on one of the best value contracts in the NBA, he probably fits a bit better on a team closer to contending than this one, where his high-level positional defense and well-rounded complementary game can help a team take that next step. More on what the Blazers are getting in Avdija in their section.



I guess the interesting question is would you do the deal in reverse--ie, would you, as a rebuilding team, trade 2 FRPs, 2 seconds, and Brogdon for Deni?


Imagine someone posting an article from The Athletic that second sentence claiming that the Wizards got an "enormous" hall. Another mental gymnastics Olympian here, folks.

At least your final admitting that someone told you to think it was a good trade, so you got on board.

But to the story, they didn't come out exceedingly well, they made a massive blunder with their best prospect.

I do get a good deal of satisfaction thinking about you running your mouth 11 games into the season? It'll be fun to continue to watch you try to save face. Please give us another body pillow kid, many of us have been patiently waiting for some of your coveted wit.


You really need help man. It's why I've had you blocked for months now.

I didn't like the trade because of the article. Badinage asked about other GMs so I gave other front office's take on the trade. That's it.

By the way, it's "you're", not "your". Genius.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#929 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:46 pm

nate33 wrote:I was stuck in a hotel while traveling last night so I got to watch the whole game. Deni was amazing. He took over in the third quarter and put the Bucks away. He was also almost single-handedly responsible for putting the Bucks in the penalty most of the night And he is so much more fun to watch than anyone on our team.


Literal wrecking crew at getting their team into foul trouble. Broadcast couldn't say enough nice things about which is nice to see some people have a basketball brain.



Imagine these lazy young players on the team being able to follow the example of a young player like Deni? That alone is worth more than we got from him. He's the vet leader you'd want on the Wizards.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#930 » by AFM » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:49 pm

"At least your final admitting"--how low IQ are you?
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#931 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:50 pm

AFM wrote:
CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
AFM wrote:
Deni is 24 not 23. But to answer your question you can hear straight from front offices yourself (from the athletic):




I guess the interesting question is would you do the deal in reverse--ie, would you, as a rebuilding team, trade 2 FRPs, 2 seconds, and Brogdon for Deni?


Imagine someone posting an article from The Athletic that second sentence claiming that the Wizards got an "enormous" hall. Another mental gymnastics Olympian here, folks.

At least your final admitting that someone told you to think it was a good trade, so you got on board.

But to the story, they didn't come out exceedingly well, they made a massive blunder with their best prospect.

I do get a good deal of satisfaction thinking about you running your mouth 11 games into the season? It'll be fun to continue to watch you try to save face. Please give us another body pillow kid, many of us have been patiently waiting for some of your coveted wit.


You really need help man. It's why I've had you blocked for months now.

I didn't like the trade because of the article. Badinage asked about other GMs so I gave other front office's take on the trade. That's it.

By the way, it's "you're", not "your". Genius.


He's going so deep in the well he's trying to dunk on someone's grammatical error. Keep squirming.

Sill talking about blocking people too... :lol: :lol: :lol: ...oh, that's right, it's sarcasm.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#932 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:51 pm

Jay81 wrote:Never liked this trade and bub has been trash. My guess is they made trade to avoid 25-30 wins


Youre a trash franchise if you trade players because you can't tank right. So at least that much tracks with this franchise.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#933 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:54 pm

AFM wrote:"At least your final admitting"--how low IQ are you?


Striking chords one at a time.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#934 » by AFM » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:59 pm

It just dawned on me that I might actually be arguing with a mentally slow person. In that case, I take back everything mean I've said up until now.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#935 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:00 pm

AFM wrote:It just dawned on me that I might actually be arguing with a mentally slow person. In that case, I take back everything mean I've said up until now.


Actual
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#936 » by trast66 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:47 pm

Glad Deni is playing so well, a good guy. I liked the trade for us and for Deni. I really don't think he would have added more than 1-2 games to our win total this year, we are that bad. I don't know what Portland is trying to do, but they seem a long way off from playoffs, especially in west. Deni is top 40 all time in most games played with no playoff games, hopefully he gets there at some point.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#937 » by Pattycakes » Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:47 pm

Hey guys, just coming in peace. Was curious how you guys have processed the trade. We do love Deni in Portland, he’s by far become our best all around prospect imo after a slow start trying to fit in.

It’s fortunate for us because we actually needed him in our growth curve, wish you guys the best luck with any return for Malcolm plus that pick you still have.

It very well could still work out well, but only time will tell.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#938 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:15 pm

The game last night against the Bucks, 30 points on 18 shots, 9 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals but.... 5 TOS! He is going to have to reduce those TOs if he is going to drive a team into the playoffs - especially in the west.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#939 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:53 pm

dckingsfan wrote:The game last night against the Bucks, 30 points on 18 shots, 9 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals but.... 5 TOS! He is going to have to reduce those TOs if he is going to drive a team into the playoffs - especially in the west.


TOs are his biggest weaknesses for sure. Going to have to tighten up the decision making.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#940 » by bsilver » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:35 pm

Pattycakes wrote:Hey guys, just coming in peace. Was curious how you guys have processed the trade. We do love Deni in Portland, he’s by far become our best all around prospect imo after a slow start trying to fit in.

It’s fortunate for us because we actually needed him in our growth curve, wish you guys the best luck with any return for Malcolm plus that pick you still have.

It very well could still work out well, but only time will tell.

So far, we have 939 posts, and 47 pages on this trade, and going strong. Some liked it because we got a lot back, but others, including me, hated it. Deni was one of the few reasons to watch the Wizards. Now, a lot of Wizards/Deni fans are watching the Portland games.
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