Magic/Raps trade for Quickley

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Re: Magic/Raps trade for Quickley 

Post#21 » by cgf » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:42 am

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Skybox wrote:I like it...I'd do it as is and hope ORL can trim some fat this summer as some of their bench guys are making too much to back up what is becoming a very expensive starting group.

ORL has trouble with depth with Moe Wagner out for the year. Could it be expanded (and upgraded for TOR, in my opinion)...

ORL sends: Isaac, Anthony Black, Cole Anthony, ORL 25 frp
TOR sends: IQ, Kelly Olynyk

why for TOR: Black is a fantastic, oversized 2-way prospect and, already, an elite defender. Black & Isaac give a whole new defensive identity overnight, combining with Barnes, in particular, makes for a tough night. Cole Anthony fills in as a bench combo guard who can score in bunches and fears no big moments. One of the best teammates in the league - always honest and supportive of others...he's only got one more guaranteed year at a reasonable $13m. TOR also takes note that Isaac's $25m this year plummets to $15m per for the duration, much of it not guaranteed in the event of extended injury missed time.

why for ORL: They plug obvious holes and re-think their rotation a bit. Paolo & Franz will still be the primary playmakers and offensive engine, but having another ball handler that can also D up and shoot from range would make them so much more effective. I believe IQ may not live up to his big raise, but he'll be a rock-solid 2-way player for many years and would fit nicely into ORL's frenetic defense. Moe Wagner was ORL's best offensive player off of the bench but he's out for up to a calendar year from now...Olynyk is a great substitute as he is a better shooter and passer than Moe. Moe's scoring was largely inside, with great hands and able to finish PnR...definitely not the same player, but able to produce similar results and maybe even get others in the second unit more involved. They don't want to give up Black, but with IQ coming in and KCP still commanding big minutes, AB could be the odd man out. His value is far more than Olynyk's, so ORL shifts Cole Anthony's guaranteed year of salary in for Harris' expiring in the OP. ORL's first step in scrambling to keep their exploding payroll under control.


you are really not happy unless magic overpay the deal already favors raptors and something magic would not due and you just throw in black..lol..crazy but at least you are consistent...
as am i in that magic need to win trade or at least look like they are winning


I can't even follow your logic..."throw Black in"? You think Isaac, Cole and a late frp gets you Quickley? :banghead:

Black, was included so that it didn't take 2 frps...and, I question how many would throw a frp at ORL for Black today. Betting the general public doesn't see it the way you do...if anything, maybe goes the other way.


We only have that WSH FRP, but you can have it. Thibs would love bringing McBride-Black off the bench lol
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Re: Magic/Raps trade for Quickley 

Post#22 » by cgf » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:43 am

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you are really not happy unless magic overpay the deal already favors raptors and something magic would not due and you just throw in black..lol..crazy but at least you are consistent...
as am i in that magic need to win trade or at least look like they are winning


I can't even follow your logic..."throw Black in"? You think Isaac, Cole and a late frp gets you Quickley? :banghead:

Black, was included so that it didn't take 2 frps...and, I question how many would throw a frp at ORL for Black today. Betting the general public doesn't see it the way you do...if anything, maybe goes the other way.


not surprised at all for you all magic players hold little value and you love small guards that are overpaid


Quickley has very good size for the 1 due to his length and defends up well because of it. And he's not overpaid at all.
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Re: Magic/Raps trade for Quickley 

Post#23 » by Skybox » Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:28 am

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Skybox wrote:
I can't even follow your logic..."throw Black in"? You think Isaac, Cole and a late frp gets you Quickley? :banghead:

Black, was included so that it didn't take 2 frps...and, I question how many would throw a frp at ORL for Black today. Betting the general public doesn't see it the way you do...if anything, maybe goes the other way.


not surprised at all for you all magic players hold little value and you love small guards that are overpaid


Quickley has very good size for the 1 due to his length and defends up well because of it. And he's not overpaid at all.


Thanks but don’t feed the troll. He spends all his time on trade threads saying no…completely anti-decisive action :nonono:
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Re: Magic/Raps trade for Quickley 

Post#24 » by orlando_joe » Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:58 am

Skybox wrote:
cgf wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
not surprised at all for you all magic players hold little value and you love small guards that are overpaid


Quickley has very good size for the 1 due to his length and defends up well because of it. And he's not overpaid at all.


Thanks but don’t feed the troll. He spends all his time on trade threads saying no…completely anti-decisive action :nonono:

yep troll ok? you were proved wrong again ..i know you live for other team to say yes...but i would think by now you would see how magic operate ..under weltman...cole will not cost a first to move if need this summer... this season does not matter will be 13 mill exp with a team option if he turns it around can pick it up.. a second or 2 maybe can even send 5 mill cash with it..no need to throw in black

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