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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#461 » by SlimShady83 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:05 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
If they couldn't get Turner or Kessler, then yes, don't give up those 2 picks for sure.


This times ten. I want Kessler as you all know, but also want Collins, Sexton or JC included they can have Rui etc

Many rumor there been interest in Vucevic, but Bulls are wanting a first for him. If Lakers do this I'm going to laugh so hard. They willing to trade Vuc while giving up a first, but not willing to give up 2 firsts for a much younger player, I will cry with laughter

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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#462 » by DanishLakerFan » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:33 pm

With AD our for a few games they better **** get something done sooner rather than later.
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#463 » by tamaraw08 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:38 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:
If they couldn't get Turner or Kessler, then yes, don't give up those 2 picks for sure.


This times ten. I want Kessler as you all know, but also want Collins, Sexton or JC included they can have Rui etc

Many rumor there been interest in Vucevic, but Bulls are wanting a first for him. If Lakers do this I'm going to laugh so hard. They willing to trade Vuc while giving up a first, but not willing to give up 2 firsts for a much younger player, I will cry with laughter

if you build it they will come...

Kobe retired, Bron came, Bron retires another star will come


Lakers need another talented playmaking guard and I like a younger Sexton but I'm not sure about his defense though.
JC is a bit too old and his defense is not good, just like Vucevic. The Bull's center can shoot and space the floor but is a liability on defense.
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#464 » by SlimShady83 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:04 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:
If they couldn't get Turner or Kessler, then yes, don't give up those 2 picks for sure.


This times ten. I want Kessler as you all know, but also want Collins, Sexton or JC included they can have Rui etc

Many rumor there been interest in Vucevic, but Bulls are wanting a first for him. If Lakers do this I'm going to laugh so hard. They willing to trade Vuc while giving up a first, but not willing to give up 2 firsts for a much younger player, I will cry with laughter

if you build it they will come...

Kobe retired, Bron came, Bron retires another star will come


Lakers need another talented playmaking guard and I like a younger Sexton but I'm not sure about his defense though.
JC is a bit too old and his defense is not good, just like Vucevic. The Bull's center can shoot and space the floor but is a liability on defense.


I know that about Vuc but his 34/5 years old def not worth a first if you can get him without a first by all means.

Sexton plays defense his not like DLO, his not great at defense but he does play Defense. He is a good consistent offensive guard who could come off the bench while Bron here or start post Bron until Lakers find replacement with hopefully that star player hehe. Yep I'm banking in star playing coming via FA.
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#465 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:57 am

tamaraw08 wrote:
I freaking get it :banghead: , you think there is NO TRADE that can help this team to win it all but I disagree.
You make it sound that James is so over the hill that he is throwing bricks and just putting up empty stats etc.
Not sure if you know that he has a higher current season ave than most of his career ave including FG%, 3pt FG%, FT%, Rebs with 9 assists/game.


Wrong, wrong wrong. You say you freakin get it, but then say I say stuff I've never said. And have actually said the opposite. Lebron is AMAZING. Said it many, many times. He's defying age admirably. But that doesn't mean he's hasn't lost that "extra gear" ...he has. Especially as the games pile on. Lebron is fine. But he is declining...and he and AD weren't enough to get it done 2 years ago...so they are certainly not enough now. And will be even less so next year, and so on.

And I have said COUNTLESS times, that if there was a trade to be made (or combo of several trades) that actually improved this team significantly, then I'd be willing to listen. In the offseason, I said we should try for Mitchell. Yes, I knew it was a fantasy hail-mary, but that's the kind of improvement that would be needed to make this team a real contender....not a couple of semi-decent roll players. If we're gonna throw away our future...then it's gotta be for something that's as close to a guarantee as you can get. So no, you don't get it. This is all stuff I've said plenty of times.

But your fighting math here: You got Lebron aging...and you got AD with his injury history...and yes, his age is now starting to enter the equation as well. So real moves needed to be made back yesterday. Not in the future. And if your gonna throw away our future, then it better be for something REALLY, REALLY good. Not freakin DFS.


This team got eliminated by a team in the playoffs with 3 of those losses by an ave of less than 4pts/game, 2 games by 2 points...


blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah......that team beat us like 12 games in a row. At what point does it not matter how it looks? Point is...when they need to, they will. Been doing it, will do it. I'm not in the 'moral victory' business...and the Lakers certainly shouldn't be either. We've been beaten 6 ways to Sunday by that team....who aren't even one of the teams I'm most worried about. We don't have that extra gear anymore. And DFS ain't the answer. And neither is some corn-fed slab of beef from the loser Jazz team that couldn't beat their own shadow. You go wastin picks on dudes like that, and it's done-zo for the Lakers until the mid 2030's. A few people around here wanna stick their heads in the sand, and pretend we're a couple no-names away from competing....we'll ya'll wanna fafo.....go toss our picks away for a couple of league NPC's.....and your gonna see what a REALLY painful rebuild looks like. With this incompetent FO to boot.
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#466 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:59 am

SlimShady83 wrote:Lakers didn't get DFS for his scoring lol


didn't get him for his talent either....which begs the question, what exactly did they throw away 3 second round picks for?
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#467 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:03 am

danfantastk32 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Lakers didn't get DFS for his scoring lol


didn't get him for his talent either....which begs the question, what exactly did they throw away 3 second round picks for?


To get rid of DLO :lol: hoohrah
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#468 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:07 am

SlimShady83 wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Lakers didn't get DFS for his scoring lol


didn't get him for his talent either....which begs the question, what exactly did they throw away 3 second round picks for?


To get rid of DLO :lol: hoohrah


Love that it's funny to you. A team going nowhere gave away an expiring contract that could have brought a pick back...but instead gave away 3 picks of their own.
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#469 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:13 am

danfantastk32 wrote:Love that it's funny to you. A team going nowhere gave away an expiring contract that could have brought a pick back...but instead gave away 3 picks of their own.


Ahh dude you need to relax a little my man. What's done Is done, no going back from It. I love you and everyone here and your passion etc, but.

And you really think DLO was giving us a pic back? Like c'mon man ain't no team offering Lakers a pic for DLO or even 2nds for him. What's done Is done my man.

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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#470 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:20 am

SlimShady83 wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:Love that it's funny to you. A team going nowhere gave away an expiring contract that could have brought a pick back...but instead gave away 3 picks of their own.


Ahh dude you need to relax a little my man. What's done Is done, no going back from It. I love you and everyone here and your passion etc, but.

And you really think DLO was giving us a pic back? Like c'mon man ain't no team offering Lakers a pic for DLO or even 2nds for him. What's done Is done my man.

Peace out.


No...DLo sucks. He wasn't giving us anything. But his expiring contract had value. But instead we got duped into giving away value to get rid of him. Like seriously....just buy the fool out, and send him home. Save yourself the picks.

And what's done is done....and it will continue to be done again and again until this horrible ownership get's the F out.
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#471 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:26 am

ok then have a good one, too much negativity for me.
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#472 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:38 am

SlimShady83 wrote:ok then have a good one, too much negativity for me.


Curious if you, and some of the others will still be around, when this team makes the long walk through the Sahara dessert, known as our needlessly extended rebuild. Your damn right I'm negative....cause I keep pointing to the giant waterfall we're about to go over. No point in the negativity afterward. What's done is done - as you put it. If you got something to say....better say it now. Cause soon it will be too late, if it's not already.

I don't expect to see too many of ya'll's smiling faces in a couple years, when the reality of what we've done comes slapping everyone in the face. I'll be here though. And that annoys me. I should have walked away the moment they got Brick.
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#473 » by DanishLakerFan » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:48 am

SlimShady83 wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:
If they couldn't get Turner or Kessler, then yes, don't give up those 2 picks for sure.


This times ten. I want Kessler as you all know, but also want Collins, Sexton or JC included they can have Rui etc

Many rumor there been interest in Vucevic, but Bulls are wanting a first for him. If Lakers do this I'm going to laugh so hard. They willing to trade Vuc while giving up a first, but not willing to give up 2 firsts for a much younger player, I will cry with laughter

if you build it they will come...

Kobe retired, Bron came, Bron retires another star will come


Two questions: How much would you give up in a Kessler+Sexton deal?`

What about Rui+Gabe+JHS+___ for Bogdanovic + Nance Jr.?
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#474 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:06 am

danfantastk32 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:ok then have a good one, too much negativity for me.


Curious if you, and some of the others will still be around, when this team makes the long walk through the Sahara dessert, known as our needlessly extended rebuild. Your damn right I'm negative....cause I keep pointing to the giant waterfall we're about to go over. No point in the negativity afterward. What's done is done - as you put it. If you got something to say....better say it now. Cause soon it will be too late, if it's not already.

I don't expect to see too many of ya'll's smiling faces in a couple years, when the reality of what we've done comes slapping everyone in the face. I'll be here though. And that annoys me. I should have walked away the moment they got Brick.


Well .. Bud I've been on this forum since 2012 ... I've been a Laker fan since Kobe was traded on draft night. b4 that I was a player follower (young then)... I've been here on this forum longer then you according to the stats on the side (you 2015, me 2012). MIght not always been here on Lakersboard but I'm here and still here now even during the Bron faze which I've been struggling with even said this from the moment Lakers signed Bron. I've seen what It's like to miss playoffs and have fans complain whine carry on etc at least with my intentions we're staying competitive and young etc while waiting for the next big star In FA to come while still having AD.

YOu might think It's a sinking ship etc, but as I've stated many times I'm not In It for the rebuild, I'm going all In and staying competitive rather then the long painful rebuild.

"If you build It, they will come" - Kobe retired, Bron came, Bron retires another one will come. It's the circle of Life or should I say LA?
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#475 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:07 am

DanishLakerFan wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:
If they couldn't get Turner or Kessler, then yes, don't give up those 2 picks for sure.


This times ten. I want Kessler as you all know, but also want Collins, Sexton or JC included they can have Rui etc

Many rumor there been interest in Vucevic, but Bulls are wanting a first for him. If Lakers do this I'm going to laugh so hard. They willing to trade Vuc while giving up a first, but not willing to give up 2 firsts for a much younger player, I will cry with laughter

if you build it they will come...

Kobe retired, Bron came, Bron retires another star will come


Two questions: How much would you give up in a Kessler+Sexton deal?`



I've already posted this many times through out the forum, heck It's even In my signature. For now.
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#476 » by DanishLakerFan » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:09 am

SlimShady83 wrote:
DanishLakerFan wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:
This times ten. I want Kessler as you all know, but also want Collins, Sexton or JC included they can have Rui etc

Many rumor there been interest in Vucevic, but Bulls are wanting a first for him. If Lakers do this I'm going to laugh so hard. They willing to trade Vuc while giving up a first, but not willing to give up 2 firsts for a much younger player, I will cry with laughter

if you build it they will come...

Kobe retired, Bron came, Bron retires another star will come


Two questions: How much would you give up in a Kessler+Sexton deal?`



I've already posted this many times through out the forum, heck It's even In my signature.


So Rui+JHS+Knecht+Removal of protection + 1 unprotected FRP.
Willing to go higher?
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Post#477 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:13 am

DanishLakerFan wrote:
So Rui+JHS+Knecht+Removal of protection + 1 unprotected FRP.
Willing to go higher?


It has to be 2 pics for Utah to say yes... other wise Utah will say No.

I'm not that high on Knecht like Lakers and others are, don't see It In him. At least not In LA.

Yes. Rui so you can get Sexton. JHS,Knecht 2 unprotected pics to get Kessler ... Lakers need both Big and a guard.

This Isn't coming from me, It's coming from what's already been discussed between the two teams. The problem Is Lakers haven't been willing to remove the protections on the pics and keep making It top5 or what ever.
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#478 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:26 am

SlimShady83 wrote:
Well .. Bud I've been on this forum since 2012 ... I've been a Laker fan since Kobe was traded on draft night. b4 that I was a player follower (young then)... I've been here on this forum longer then you according to the stats on the side (you 2015, me 2012).


Yeah...this is hardly the only forum around, but whatever. I've been a fan since 83. Didn't have the online chat forum dates to prove it back then...but it doesn't really matter. If you love the Lakers, you love the Lakers.

I'm just curious is all. I see alot of "kicking the can" mentality around here. We'll see what happens when that finally catches up with us. Buying stars means little to nothing. Every team out there buys/trades for stars. There aren't alot of Lebron's in the league. Don't see anything close these days. At some point, this team is gonna have to actually build something. And we can do it with extra picks, to speed it up....or we can do it with a bunch of picks missing, to slow it down.

It'll just be extra depressing doing it the slow way knowing we threw our picks away on a dead horse, that we knew was dead...but couldn't bring ourselves to admit.
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Post#479 » by Pointgod » Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:44 pm

Crazy crazy proposition just putting this out there. Should we be willing to help facilitate a Butler to Miami trade if it either gets us 3 first rounders picks from Phoenix in 2025,2027,2029 or two firsts in 2026 and 2028? We can make the money work while keeping Reaves, Lebron, AD, Khnect, Christie. The pros is that we’d have 4-5 first round picks to throw into a deal for a superstar, the con is that we’d be limited in salary to match for a trade (pretty much Reaves and DFS if he opts in) plus we’d be in salary cap hell, we’d be a thin team again and we’d be stuck with Beal because of his no trade clause.

We’re kind of in a no man’s land right now where there’s no one or two moves that would make us a contender but Lebron and AD won’t let us rebuild.
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Re: Trades: update per shams AD/Bron asking for a major now move 

Post#480 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:06 pm

Pointgod wrote:Crazy crazy proposition just putting this out there. Should we be willing to help facilitate a Butler to Miami trade if it either gets us 3 first rounders picks from Phoenix in 2025,2027,2029 or two firsts in 2026 and 2028? We can make the money work while keeping Reaves, Lebron, AD, Khnect, Christie.

The pros is that we’d have 4-5 first round picks to throw into a deal for a superstar, the con is that we’d be limited in salary to match for a trade (pretty much Reaves and DFS if he opts in) plus we’d be in salary cap hell, we’d be a thin team again and we’d be stuck with Beal because of his no trade clause.

We’re kind of in a no man’s land right now where there’s no one or two moves that would make us a contender but Lebron and AD won’t let us rebuild.


Propose the trade and I'll get back to you If Lakers can be a third team that gets us the pics ... Because otherwise I don't see It happening. Edit: getting Beal like this, will put the Lakers into the 2nd apron.
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