Terry Rozier Investigated By Feds In Illegal Gambling Inquiry

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Terry Rozier Investigated By Feds In Illegal Gambling Inquiry 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:58 pm

Terry Rozier is being investigated by federal prosecutors to determine whether he manipulated his performance as part of an illegal sports betting scheme. The same investigation has already led to a criminal charge and a lifetime ban from the NBA for former Toronto Raptors forward Jontay Porter.


Rozier hasn’t been charged with a crime or accused of wrongdoing. It couldn’t be learned if investigators have determined whether he was deliberately helping bettors.


The game in question took place on March 23, 2023, when Rozier was a member of the Charlotte Hornets. The betting on Rozier was strange enough that day to raise alarms at U.S. Integrity, a firm that works with sports entities, gambling operators and government agencies to monitor betting markets for suspicious activity.  


Rozier played just over nine minutes before being substituted out during a timeout. He left with a foot injury and didn’t return. Rozier would miss the remaining eight games for the Hornets


“In March 2023, the NBA was alerted to unusual betting activity related to Terry Rozier’s performance in a game between Charlotte and New Orleans,” NBA spokesman Mike Bass said. “The league conducted an investigation and did not find a violation of NBA rules. We are now aware of an investigation by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York related to this matter and have been cooperating with that investigation.”

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Re: Terry Rozier Investigated By Feds In Illegal Gambling Inquiry 

Post#2 » by BernteB » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:42 pm

he made 110 mio so far. will have made 160 mio after his current contract has expired. that would be the dumbest move ever. why would he do that?
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Post#3 » by TheCage4 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:44 pm

Being able to bet on a players performance, and other types of prop bets, need to be removed from the gambling forum.
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Post#4 » by fredweis » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:50 pm

Sounds like people knew he was injured and tried to play anyway.
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Post#5 » by Skipwhethers » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:54 pm

What a season for the Heat...
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Post#6 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:11 pm

BernteB wrote:he made 110 mio so far. will have made 160 mio after his current contract has expired. that would be the dumbest move ever. why would he do that?


Because he isn't exactly intelligent as far as being a human being goes. I once watched him in an interview on ESPN speak in third person about himself. When people do that, it's a dead giveaway that they are dumb.
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Post#7 » by puja21 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:15 pm

fredweis wrote:Sounds like people knew he was injured and tried to play anyway.



OR Rozier was told he was about to be shut down for lottery tank and leaked it to someone a game early & took himself out with a fake injury like Porter did.

Remember, this was heading into the Wemby/Miller/Scoot/Thompson Bros draft

LaMelo had been been lost for the season for 3 weeks already. Cody Martin was hurt all year.

Is it coincidence that BOTH Oubre and Rozier coincidently played their final minutes of the season on Mar 23rd

Oubre had played 30+ mpg for 10 straight contests and suddenly shutdown after 12 mins in this Rozier/gambling game

Heading into that game, the Hornets were outside the bottom 3 by just 4 games:
Hornets 23-51
Spurs 19-54
Rockets 18-55
Pistons 16-57
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Post#8 » by foreigngrammar » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:33 pm

BernteB wrote:he made 110 mio so far. will have made 160 mio after his current contract has expired. that would be the dumbest move ever. why would he do that?


The answer is right there... 8-)
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Post#9 » by Cassius » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:05 pm

puja21 wrote:
fredweis wrote:Sounds like people knew he was injured and tried to play anyway.



OR Rozier was told he was about to be shut down for lottery tank and leaked it to someone a game early & took himself out with a fake injury like Porter did.

Remember, this was heading into the Wemby/Miller/Scoot/Thompson Bros draft

LaMelo had been been lost for the season for 3 weeks already. Cody Martin was hurt all year.

Is it coincidence that BOTH Oubre and Rozier coincidently played their final minutes of the season on Mar 23rd

Oubre had played 30+ mpg for 10 straight contests and suddenly shutdown after 12 mins in this Rozier/gambling game

Heading into that game, the Hornets were outside the bottom 3 by just 4 games:
Hornets 23-51
Spurs 19-54
Rockets 18-55
Pistons 16-57


Bingo!

And for this reason, the idea that the punishment should come down on Rozier and not the Hornets organization is laughable at best, but most likely just another example of Owners vs Workers. Any member of the coaching staff, training staff, front office and especially his teammates, could have known enough of the plan to have leaked it to other gamblers. The idea that Terry is the only person who could let it slip that he was being shut down is very convenient.
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Post#10 » by shrink » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:14 pm

The greater mystery is how they would be able to determine any player was point-shaving on the 27-55 Hornets?
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Post#11 » by engelmartin » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:41 pm

I didn’t realize it was possible to bet on if Terry Rozier would suck slightly more than usual
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Re: Terry Rozier Investigated By Feds In Illegal Gambling Inquiry 

Post#12 » by pushfloater » Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:02 am

Somebody said something
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Post#13 » by puja21 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:20 pm

shrink wrote:The greater mystery is how they would be able to determine any player was point-shaving on the 27-55 Hornets?


It's based on unusual betting patterns

e.g.
Someone making a ton of prop bets on Rozier

It's not just a modern thing w/ Jontay Porter and Rozier (although player prop bets online make it easier) -- unusual betting amounts is how they've always caught everyone going back decades, even pre internet

I worked for a power5 college bb team in the mid 2000s and they brought in the perpetrators of the 1994 Arizona State points shaving scandal to "teach us" why gambling is bad.

It was one player (Stevin "Hedake" Smith) and one student (bookie Benny Silman) who fixed ONE game before the mob caught them -- mob bookies noticed the weird amounts of money, tracked it back to those 2, and blackmailed them into fixing more games.... knowing full well the FBI would be tipped off by "more" unusual betting amounts.... which they were (the mob ended up wagering $600K on random meaningless non conference games). So the player and student-bookie were the ones who take the fall and the mob skated (after the mob got the last blood from their stone).

This is how they catch everyone -- follow the money
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Post#14 » by puja21 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:29 pm

pushfloater wrote:Somebody said something


rarely does anyone need to be a leak.

it works the same way with insider trading -- meaning just "follow the money"

People are clever, but with modern technology and reporting requirements there's a massive risk of getting caught.

RE: insider trading, there was a case >15 years ago, where an employee (not even someone who worked in M&A transactions) overheard of a future acquisition just by happenstance (he was sitting within earshot of a meeting he didn't even attend). So no one in his own company even knew he had the info to leverage. The employee used his wife's college roommate to make the buy and the SEC caught them in <72 hours.

Even in 2010 the amount of public information that links people who make unusual transactions is staggering. What may have worked in the 1980s or 90s is an instant conviction in the internet era.

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