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Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p

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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#21 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:10 am

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76ciology wrote:Kings should trade Sabonis. Then let Fox run 1-5 PnR with a big who can catch lobs.
I am certain he is their untouchable, unless he demands to be traded also like Fox.


He shouldn’t be “untouchable”. He’s hard to build around that I dont even think he’ll fetch a lot of good offers. He’s obsolete to compete against the monster bigs of the west like Jokic and Wemby.
Well I think you would trade Maxey for him since you were willing to trade him for DFS and Cam plus 2nd round picks in our fantasy trade thread to build around McCain.

I would trade Jo for Sabonis straight up.

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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#22 » by the_process » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:14 am

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WentzerWuver wrote:
76ciology wrote:Kings should trade Sabonis. Then let Fox run 1-5 PnR with a big who can catch lobs.
I am certain he is their untouchable, unless he demands to be traded also like Fox.


He shouldn’t be “untouchable”. He’s hard to build around that I dont even think he’ll fetch a lot of good offers. He’s obsolete to compete against the monster bigs of the west like Jokic and Wemby.


Sacto generally tries to use Sabonis as a poor man’s Jokic. He’s pretty good at it. That being said, if you are an NBA C, you have to be the anchor of the defense; and if you are not, you have to be otherworldly on offense like Jokic to win.
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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#23 » by Iscull » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:14 am

I hope Drummond never suits up again. The pace of play is so much better with Bona or Yabu than him on the court
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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#24 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:19 am

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WentzerWuver wrote:I am certain he is their untouchable, unless he demands to be traded also like Fox.


He shouldn’t be “untouchable”. He’s hard to build around that I dont even think he’ll fetch a lot of good offers. He’s obsolete to compete against the monster bigs of the west like Jokic and Wemby.


Sacto generally tries to use Sabonis as a poor man’s Jokic. He’s pretty good at it. That being said, if you are an NBA C, you have to be the anchor of the defense; and if you are not, you have to be otherworldly on offense like Jokic to win.

I would trade Jo for Sabonis straight up, trust me.

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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#25 » by 76ciology » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:27 am

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He shouldn’t be “untouchable”. He’s hard to build around that I dont even think he’ll fetch a lot of good offers. He’s obsolete to compete against the monster bigs of the west like Jokic and Wemby.


Sacto generally tries to use Sabonis as a poor man’s Jokic. He’s pretty good at it. That being said, if you are an NBA C, you have to be the anchor of the defense; and if you are not, you have to be otherworldly on offense like Jokic to win.

I would trade Jo for Sabonis straight up, trust me.

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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#26 » by 76ciology » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:28 am

Iscull wrote:I hope Drummond never suits up again. The pace of play is so much better with Bona or Yabu than him on the court


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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#27 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:45 am

We are rollin! Eric Gordon has been terrific as our second guard.
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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#28 » by Arsenal » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:47 am

Drummond needs to be shipped out asap. Should not play another minute.
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Post#29 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:54 am

Arsenal wrote:Drummond needs to be shipped out asap. Should not play another minute.
I have no problem with Drummond cause at least he is able to play while winning 4 straight and not stealing money on the bench.
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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#30 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:20 am

76ciology wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
the_process wrote:
Sacto generally tries to use Sabonis as a poor man’s Jokic. He’s pretty good at it. That being said, if you are an NBA C, you have to be the anchor of the defense; and if you are not, you have to be otherworldly on offense like Jokic to win.

I would trade Jo for Sabonis straight up, trust me.

https://youtube.com/shorts/h6b4jFTaKqw?si=S_CBF2IJUPh8yfPC


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So you were okay trading Maxey for DFS and Cam but have an issue with me trading Jo for Sabonis?!?

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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#31 » by phifans » Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:36 am

76ciology wrote:
Iscull wrote:I hope Drummond never suits up again. The pace of play is so much better with Bona or Yabu than him on the court


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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#32 » by M2J » Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:50 am

phifans wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Iscull wrote:I hope Drummond never suits up again. The pace of play is so much better with Bona or Yabu than him on the court


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I think Drummond is what Drummond is, but +/- numbers on this team with this rosters changeovers day-to-day probably ain't the way the judge it. I think the increased pace is a big reason as to why they play better. I think drumming for short spurts can run the floor and help the pace with his rebounder.

The pace isn't on Drummond It's on nurse for keeping them playing the way he wants them to play when Joel. Literally idiotic stuff.
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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#33 » by 76ciology » Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:57 am

M2J wrote:
phifans wrote:
76ciology wrote:
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Embiid recruited Drummond


PJ Tucker say hi :lol:



I think Drummond is what Drummond is, but +/- numbers on this team with this rosters changeovers day-to-day probably ain't the way the judge it. I think the increased pace is a big reason as to why they play better. I think drumming for short spurts can run the floor and help the pace with his rebounder.

The pace isn't on Drummond It's on nurse for keeping them playing the way he wants them to play when Joel. Literally idiotic stuff.


We’re essentially playing 4-on-5 on offense with Drummond. His lack of spacing allows a single defender to guard two players, and he’s not a lob threat, meaning bigs can sit in the middle of a PnR without worrying about him. Defenses love when Kelly Oubre curls off a Drummond screen because it becomes a low ppp action (i’d guess) since they can have a defender defend two guys on offense.

You can’t play fast, because he can’t shoot nor is he quick and athletic.

If you play slow, it’s easier for the defense to set and make it hard for you to run the offense.

Defensively, he’s neither a rim protector nor a switchable/rangy defender (the type that can cover distances to help close outs) to compensate for his offensive limitations. He’s fine as a backup for Embiid, where he’s matched up against second units, but when facing starters—especially those from good teams—his weaknesses on both ends become too easy to exploit.

On a semi-related note this is a good vid to watch

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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#34 » by Kova » Thu Jan 30, 2025 11:56 am

What an unlikely W! And on the second night of the b2b. The streak continues!
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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#35 » by Mik317 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:46 pm

MVPs are terrible judges of talent.

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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#36 » by the_process » Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:13 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
the_process wrote:
76ciology wrote:
He shouldn’t be “untouchable”. He’s hard to build around that I dont even think he’ll fetch a lot of good offers. He’s obsolete to compete against the monster bigs of the west like Jokic and Wemby.


Sacto generally tries to use Sabonis as a poor man’s Jokic. He’s pretty good at it. That being said, if you are an NBA C, you have to be the anchor of the defense; and if you are not, you have to be otherworldly on offense like Jokic to win.

I would trade Jo for Sabonis straight up, trust me.

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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#37 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:27 pm

Sabonis just lost to a team with like one true starter playing who was on the verge of tanking 2 weeks ago all while having his team 100%. They also suck this year too. I think that speaks to his value compared to Embiid.
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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#38 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:09 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Sabonis just lost to a team with like one true starter playing who was on the verge of tanking 2 weeks ago all while having his team 100%. They also suck this year too. I think that speaks to his value compared to Embiid.
So you would rather have a center like Zion going forward will cannot stay healthy enough to play. Jo just signed a super max extension 2 seasons out when there was NO NEED to do that. Morey should be fired for that decision alone!

At least Sabonis is healthy and can get triple double every game even tho his defense is as bad as the Joker which everyone is fully aware of.

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Sabonis is basically Jokic-lite while Jo is Zion now.
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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#39 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:41 pm

24-23 with the starting 5 largely playing the entire year. What's the point in trading Embiid for Sabonis if he can't do more with a more healthy and, some might argue, talented team? I'd trade Joel for a bunch of first round picks and young players. I wouldn't trade for a "stats" guy who doesn't elevate his team. Waste of time, particularly after his extension.
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Re: Game 46: Kings @ sixers 1/29 730p 

Post#40 » by 76ciology » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:15 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
76ciology wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:I would trade Jo for Sabonis straight up, trust me.

https://youtube.com/shorts/h6b4jFTaKqw?si=S_CBF2IJUPh8yfPC


Ok. 5 year ban
So you were okay trading Maxey for DFS and Cam but have an issue with me trading Jo for Sabonis?!?

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Can anyone tell me what is wrong with my thinking as I am puzzled?!?


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