Thibs needs to go

Fat Kat · Post #341 » by **Fat Kat** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:18 pm

See. Thibs listened to me

3toheadmelo · Post #342 » by **3toheadmelo** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:28 pm

Fat Kat wrote:

See. Thibs listened to me

Lmao

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #343 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:30 pm

Fat Kat wrote:

See. Thibs listened to me

My hairline is intact, put respect on my genetics at least.

cgmw · Post #344 » by **cgmw** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:00 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
I think you'd need a large sample size to come to that conclusion.

- Randle struggles seems to be related to his mental lows mixed in with an overall slump.
- Donte has had a pretty good January and it's no coincidence it happens to be when he was inserted into the starting lineup.
- Obi isn't trailblazing, but it seems like he's a net-positive since the trade.
- Grimes seems to be bouncing back from a horrible season in Detroit.

Don't forget, RJ is also having a career year under a new coach

Thibs is a solid coach overall. He gets you regular season wins.

If he's a great coach then his impact will be clearly seen in the playoffs. A great coach takes this elite roster to the finals. If we underperform in the postseason, then I remain a Thibs skeptic.

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Anything less than the ECF would be a major failure. That's the least we should demand of Thibs with the roster he has.

There should be a huge asterisks here: Thibs gets more out of *GUYS HE LIKES. Thibs gets nothing out of guys he doesn't like. It's a pretty binary world with Coach Maniac. You're in or you're out. If you're IN, you'll overperform. If you're out, you're out.

Guano · Post #345 » by **Guano** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:06 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:

See. Thibs listened to me

My hairline is intact, put respect on my genetics at least.

I would have asked for fat kats addy but that's just me, my male pattern baldness, and toxic masculinity speaking.

Guano · Post #346 » by **Guano** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:07 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:The fire Thibs crowd has been down bad this past week. Not looking good for them.

Almost as bad as the Randle crowd!

Almost as bad as the Rozier crowd!

Speaking of scary Terry.

He is fcked fcked.

Read on Twitter

robillionaire · Post #347 » by **robillionaire** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:16 pm

cgmw wrote:
There should be a huge asterisks here: Thibs gets more out of *GUYS HE LIKES. Thibs gets nothing out of guys he doesn't like. It's a pretty binary world with Coach Maniac. You're in or you're out. If you're IN, you'll overperform. If you're out, you're out.

He likes good players and doesn’t like bad players

I trust his track record of picking players to ride with over the Knicks fandom. Take this quote for example

“When things implode later this season, and after they fire Thibs, I expect Cam to go full-Treyverson and average 29 ppg during a late-season 10-game garbahge time stretch that takes us out of contention for a top 5 pick. Then Cam leaves in FA, of course. And the Knicks continue to Knick”

The Knicks fandom thought Scam didn’t work here because Thibs didn’t like him. Turns out, he sucked in college, he sucked before he got here, and he has continued to suck on every team he’s landed on after he left here. Many such cases.

Now the guys Thibs “liked”, he has taken them to heights never thought possible. Maybe he just has an eye for talent?

Brunson - first time all star, first time all star starter
Towns - first time all star starter
OG and Hart - becoming respected as elite players
Hartenstein - bench guy to getting him paid 30 million a year
Randle - MIP, 3x all star, 2x all nba, traded for hall of famer. From nothing
Donte - had him looking like Steph curry
Quickley - built him up and got him paid like 200m

Players who couldn’t hack it here just weren’t that good or at least not as good as the fandom imagined

He even got dudes like Reggie bullock a payday. So many examples but I have to go to lunch

3toheadmelo · Post #348 » by **3toheadmelo** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:20 pm

Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:Almost as bad as the Randle crowd!

Almost as bad as the Rozier crowd!

Speaking of scary Terry.

He is fcked fcked.

Read on Twitter

He about to average 30 in China

Guano · Post #349 » by **Guano** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:23 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Almost as bad as the Rozier crowd!

Speaking of scary Terry.

He is fcked fcked.

Read on Twitter

He about to average 30 in China

China?!

He is going to be receiving outlet passes from sham in federal

FrozenEnvelope · Post #350 » by **FrozenEnvelope** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:38 pm

Read on Twitter

Even the players on the team think the minutes police are stupid! :lol:

3toheadmelo · Post #351 » by **3toheadmelo** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:38 pm

Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:
Speaking of scary Terry.

He is fcked fcked.

Read on Twitter

He about to average 30 in China

China?!

He is going to be receiving outlet passes from sham in federal

thebuzzardman · Post #352 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:54 pm

Guano wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:
Speaking of scary Terry.

He is fcked fcked.

Read on Twitter

He about to average 30 in China

China?!

He is going to be receiving outlet passes from sham in federal

"This ball smells like menthol cigarettes!"

louisorr · Post #353 » by **louisorr** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:32 pm

Some folks saying Thibs "got smart" or "woke up" about not playing his starters into the ground and using his bench
More likely Leon sat his ass down and said don't **** up this all time great rebuild of mine by being a stubborn maniac psychopath.

thebuzzardman · Post #354 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:56 pm

louisorr wrote:Some folks saying Thibs "got smart" or "woke up" about not playing his starters into the ground and using his bench
More likely Leon sat his ass down and said don't **** up this all time great rebuild of mine by being a stubborn maniac psychopath.

When you see Hahn and Pidto talking about it, you know word came from upper management

NYKat · Post #355 » by **NYKat** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:27 pm

louisorr wrote:Some folks saying Thibs "got smart" or "woke up" about not playing his starters into the ground and using his bench
More likely Leon sat his ass down and said don't **** up this all time great rebuild of mine by being a stubborn maniac psychopath.

They probably told him if we leading the league and minutes and anyone of them gets an injury, later in the season, it’s your ass

KnixinSix · Post #356 » by **KnixinSix** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:34 pm

cgmw wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:Don't forget, RJ is also having a career year under a new coach

Thibs is a solid coach overall. He gets you regular season wins.

If he's a great coach then his impact will be clearly seen in the playoffs. A great coach takes this elite roster to the finals. If we underperform in the postseason, then I remain a Thibs skeptic.

.
Anything less than the ECF would be a major failure. That's the least we should demand of Thibs with the roster he has.

There should be a huge asterisks here: Thibs gets more out of *GUYS HE LIKES. Thibs gets nothing out of guys he doesn't like. It's a pretty binary world with Coach Maniac. You're in or you're out. If you're IN, you'll overperform. If you're out, you're out.

It's kinda like this. But we know a guy like Mitch tickles his fancy so he would definitely get major minutes.

I wonder what he thinks of Beef Stew or is he more a Stroganoff kind of guy?

Post #357 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:57 pm

Fat Kat wrote:

See. Thibs listened to me

Christ

Clyde_Style · Post #358 » by **Clyde_Style** » Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:51 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
louisorr wrote:Some folks saying Thibs "got smart" or "woke up" about not playing his starters into the ground and using his bench
More likely Leon sat his ass down and said don't **** up this all time great rebuild of mine by being a stubborn maniac psychopath.

When you see Hahn and Pidto talking about it, you know word came from upper management

Hell yes. When Josh namechecks the minutes police it was definitely a meme circulating the inner bowels of MSG.

I said it before that Rose will put the team above Thibs and I'm sure this had to have been discussed with Thibs.

People want to be snarky about it, cool, have fun with it, but facts are this team is so obviously better when the starters get rests during the game.

It is especially important in that early 4th quarter segment so the starters can close out without being gassed like they were before Thibs started going with the bench for longer stretches.

spree8 · Post #359 » by **spree8** » Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:59 am

It was a lot more than realgm posters talking about the issue. You had HOF’ers, his former players, other coaches, analysts, journalists, commentators, podcasters, youtubers, all NBA fans, etc etc etc talking about this.

When your starters are all in the top 5-10 of the league in minutes, and the whole world is talking about it, of course upper management is gunna be aware. This isn’t the first time Rose had to deal with this (Hahn interview with the “edict” question). Whether he spoke to Thibs or not who knows, but he publicly denied it last time… like he’s supposed to.

Josh Hart fighting against the minutes police isn’t really proof of anything either. Same thing with him and Donte fighting against the players in the league voting Thibs dead last as a coach they’d want to play for. That’s their job.

As a competitor, you don’t wanna leave the game at all really unless you’re hurt. Doesn’t matter if the quality of your play is falling off as a result of exhaustion, you always want in on the action. Being on the team doesn’t mean he’s right on this issue at all. Hart’s just looking at it from a completely different perspective, one that doesn’t take into account or realize everything that we’re discussing as an issue.

kNicksGmen · Post #360 » by **kNicksGmen** » Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:26 pm

spree8 wrote:It was a lot more than realgm posters talking about the issue. You had HOF’ers, his former players, other coaches, analysts, journalists, commentators, podcasters, youtubers, all NBA fans, etc etc etc talking about this.

When your starters are all in the top 5-10 of the league in minutes, and the whole world is talking about it, of course upper management is gunna be aware. This isn’t the first time Rose had to deal with this (Hahn interview with the “edict” question). Whether he spoke to Thibs or not who knows, but he publicly denied it last time… like he’s supposed to.

Josh Hart fighting against the minutes police isn’t really proof of anything either. Same thing with him and Donte fighting against the players in the league voting Thibs dead last as a coach they’d want to play for. That’s their job.

As a competitor, you don’t wanna leave the game at all really unless you’re hurt. Doesn’t matter if the quality of your play is falling off as a result of exhaustion, you always want in on the action. Being on the team doesn’t mean he’s right on this issue at all. Hart’s just looking at it from a completely different perspective, one that doesn’t take into account or realize everything that we’re discussing as an issue.

yea it's always nonsense to me when people use the players' opinion to defend a coach. most players will play through an injury and make it worse because they are prideful - it takes the medical staff and front office to make the right decision.