2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA

[contract]

This is actually the most positive Heat news I have seen in some time. Not only are we going to get out of the 52 million next year for Butler but we might get out of the near 27 million we owe to Rozier, we also have an early termination clause on Duncan's contract

We could be sitting here in the summer with over 60 million dollars in cap space, and potentially a 50+ million dollar trade exception if Butler opts out and we don't move him at the deadline.

Need to convey this pick this year if a move doesn't materialize we could tank next season and take on a bunch of really bad expiring deals next year for draft captial.

The early termination option is Duncan's, and I wouldn't expect him to terminate the contract unless the Heat are ready to sign him longer term at a lower but still healthy number ... which would once again be a mistake.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[MartyConlonJr]

I do imagine that if Rozier got kicked out of the NBA for something like that and got his contract voided (assuming it was true, which I am not suggesting it is), it would not count to Miami's cap or tax bill.

The Jimmy Butler saga and his suspensions were very direct in the impact to tax bill, in that as the suspension was team mandated, it did not impact tax bill. It becomes a conflict of interest if a team can issue suspensions at their behest and positively effect their balance sheet. This is not that, the Heat are not involved. I would be surprised if the NBA could tell Miami that you cannot have the player, but you must still pay other teams a tax as though you had that player.

[BBallFreak]

This is actually the most positive Heat news I have seen in some time. Not only are we going to get out of the 52 million next year for Butler but we might get out of the near 27 million we owe to Rozier, we also have an early termination clause on Duncan's contract

We could be sitting here in the summer with over 60 million dollars in cap space, and potentially a 50+ million dollar trade exception if Butler opts out and we don't move him at the deadline.

Need to convey this pick this year if a move doesn't materialize we could tank next season and take on a bunch of really bad expiring deals next year for draft captial.

The early termination option is Duncan's, and I wouldn't expect him to terminate the contract unless the Heat are ready to sign him longer term at a lower but still healthy number ... which would once again be a mistake.

The ETO is the team's, not the player's.

[contract]

No wonder Rozier has been playing like crap.

[Wiltside]

Well, this was not the news I expected to wake up to.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Duncan reps at the Christmas parties. No way we are exercising that ETO next year

[contract]

This is really the news that I wake up to? Lmao.

You're just waking up?

[contract]

This is actually the most positive Heat news I have seen in some time. Not only are we going to get out of the 52 million next year for Butler but we might get out of the near 27 million we owe to Rozier, we also have an early termination clause on Duncan's contract

We could be sitting here in the summer with over 60 million dollars in cap space, and potentially a 50+ million dollar trade exception if Butler opts out and we don't move him at the deadline.

Need to convey this pick this year if a move doesn't materialize we could tank next season and take on a bunch of really bad expiring deals next year for draft captial.

The early termination option is Duncan's, and I wouldn't expect him to terminate the contract unless the Heat are ready to sign him longer term at a lower but still healthy number ... which would once again be a mistake.

The ETO is the team's, not the player's.

I don't think there's any such thing as a team ETO.

"Options can be held by the player or the team, but ETOs are always held by the player (i.e., there's no such thing as a team Early Termination Option)."

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q57

[BBallFreak]

The early termination option is Duncan's, and I wouldn't expect him to terminate the contract unless the Heat are ready to sign him longer term at a lower but still healthy number ... which would once again be a mistake.

The ETO is the team's, not the player's.

I don't think there's any such thing as a team ETO.

"Options can be held by the player or the team, but ETOs are always held by the player (i.e., there's no such thing as a team Early Termination Option)."

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q57

From Hoopshype

Only $9,888,000 guaranteed in 2025/26, HoopsHype has learned. Increases to full guarantee if his team doesn't waive him on or before two days after the end of 2025/26 moratorium period or if his team wins an NBA championship between 2022 and 2025 season and he achieves various minutes/games

[3ammy3uck3ts]

FBI if you’re reading these forums to investigate I have evidence Jaime Jacquez Jr. has been manipulating the books and playing his own unders, please contact me.

[MettaWorldPanda]

FBI if you’re reading these forums to investigate I have evidence Jaime Jacquez Jr. has been manipulating the books and playing his own unders, please contact me.

Just a few weeks ago he was anointed our PG of the future. Damn shame

[twix2500]

For the record, I blame 3Hammy for Rozier just like I blamed Bishop for Waiters.

[heater4life]

No one wants Jimmy. lol

What a plot twist.

[contract]

The ETO is the team's, not the player's.

I don't think there's any such thing as a team ETO.

"Options can be held by the player or the team, but ETOs are always held by the player (i.e., there's no such thing as a team Early Termination Option)."

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q57

From Hoopshype

Only $9,888,000 guaranteed in 2025/26, HoopsHype has learned. Increases to full guarantee if his team doesn't waive him on or before two days after the end of 2025/26 moratorium period or if his team wins an NBA championship between 2022 and 2025 season and he achieves various minutes/games

I believe that's two separate things. If Duncan exercises the ETO, he's a free agent and the Heat owe him $0 next season. If he declines the option then he's under a partial guarantee ($9,888,000) that converts to a full guarantee ($19,888,000) if the Heat don't cut him by a certain date.

[BBallFreak]

I don't think there's any such thing as a team ETO.

"Options can be held by the player or the team, but ETOs are always held by the player (i.e., there's no such thing as a team Early Termination Option)."

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q57

From Hoopshype

Only $9,888,000 guaranteed in 2025/26, HoopsHype has learned. Increases to full guarantee if his team doesn't waive him on or before two days after the end of 2025/26 moratorium period or if his team wins an NBA championship between 2022 and 2025 season and he achieves various minutes/games

I believe that's two separate things. If Duncan exercises the ETO, he's a free agent and the Heat owe him $0 next season. If he declines the option then he's under a partial guarantee ($9,888,000) that converts to a full guarantee ($19,888,000) if the Heat don't cut him by a certain date.

Yeah, seems like we're both correct

[Heat3]

Everyone but Herro and Ware are part of the criminal ring if judging by this season.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[contract]

For the record, I blame 3Hammy for Rozier just like I blamed Bishop for Waiters.

It's about time that someone gave this 3ammy guy some grief.

[MorbidHEAT]

Everyone but Herro and Ware are part of the criminal ring if judging by this season.

Could you imagine if that was the next headline? Black Sox scandal part 2. That would be tough to live down.