2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

Ghost of Kleine · Post #161 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:40 pm

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Ghost of Kleine · Post #162 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:41 pm

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Well.......DUH!!! :lol:

Blonde · Post #163 » by **Blonde** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:48 pm

Bogdan is in a down year and has had some injury problems but if you can get him for Nurk and a late 1st that’s not bad business. That said, it really only makes sense if one or both of Beal/Allen are moved. We can’t keep stacking up 2 guards without a plan.

BobbieL · Post #164 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:48 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:

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Well.......DUH!!!

And thank goodness for that if it happens.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #165 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:02 pm

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Ghost of Kleine · Post #166 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:10 pm

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Now it's starting to make sense! Nobody wants EITHER Nurkic or Beal, and our 1sts also suck now, so Ishbia and the Suns front office have to pull out personal connections and attach assets just to be able to try and swing some low-end deals! :-?

TeamTragic · Post #167 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:12 pm

Nurkic/FRP seems to be an acceptable package for multiple teams. This is a good start.

Sunsdeuce · Post #168 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:19 pm

Can we say it out loud. Bogdon to the Suns is redundant and mostly pointless. It’s just making a trade to make a trade.

TeamTragic · Post #169 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:21 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:Can we say it out loud. Bogdon to the Suns is redundant and mostly pointless. It’s just making a trade to make a trade.

Better to move that whiney **** and get back a potential asset.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #170 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:23 pm

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I just recently was having such a discussion on this with someone on this board! And ironically regarding the same points being made here by others. If giving up one of our very last remaining assets, why do it for positional redundancy? Why not actually look to address positions of need over positions we already have very expensive depth at? These decisions are looking more and more asinine cumulatively as wee go forward!

dremill24 · Post #171 » by **dremill24** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:26 pm

Can Bogdan make a shot, is the question? He's in Huerter territory at this point. Small sample but he's also pushing 33 years old

Dr Manute · Post #172 » by **Dr Manute** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:27 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:Can we say it out loud. Bogdon to the Suns is redundant and mostly pointless. It’s just making a trade to make a trade.

Unless Grayson, or Beal is traded.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #173 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:29 pm

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Fo-Real · Post #174 » by **Fo-Real** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:42 pm

dremill24 wrote:Can Bogdan make a shot, is the question? He's in Huerter territory at this point. Small sample but he's also pushing 33 years old

He was damn near unstoppable in this summers Olympics. If we are getting him, I pray we have a plan to move one or two of Beal, Grayson, Jones , or Royce. Since moving Beal is tough, many he moves back to starter and Grayson and Jones go separately but as a package deal to someone like Orlando.

Calvin Klein · Post #175 » by **Calvin Klein** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:51 pm

dremill24 wrote:Can Bogdan make a shot, is the question? He's in Huerter territory at this point. Small sample but he's also pushing 33 years old

Yeah, that's way too young for this team. We need older guys, and even better if they have max contracts.

BobbieL · Post #176 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:53 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:Can we say it out loud. Bogdon to the Suns is redundant and mostly pointless. It’s just making a trade to make a trade.

And these will be the types of trade that are made - especially if Beal and Three FRPs are traded for Butler. Just activity trades so Flex can send a tweet about "..how great the front office is, playing chess not checkers" bull s**t!

And if a FRP is traded with NurkiC - that leaves only TWO FRPs for a Butler trade. What player would have value to get a future FRP?

Hmmmm

RYAN. DUNN.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #177 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:59 pm

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If giving up a freakin' 1st just to dump Nurkic, then this trade right here is the trade that the Suns NEED TO MAKE!!! nURKIC/ CLE 26 1st for Mitchell Robinson/ Tyler Kolek/ Pacom Dadiet!!

Let's finally quit all the stupidity and redundancy and make an actual movie that makes a ton of sense!! :nod:

BobbieL · Post #178 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:06 pm

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dremill24 wrote:Can Bogdan make a shot, is the question? He's in Huerter territory at this point. Small sample but he's also pushing 33 years old

Yeah, that's way too young for this team. We need older guys, and even better if they have max contracts.

Out goes Dunn, Nurkic and 3 FRPs

In come Bogdan and Butler

Ghost of Kleine · Post #179 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:06 pm

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dremill24 wrote:Can Bogdan make a shot, is the question? He's in Huerter territory at this point. Small sample but he's also pushing 33 years old

He was damn near unstoppable in this summers Olympics. If we are getting him, I pray we have a plan to move one or two of Beal, Grayson, Jones , or Royce. Since moving Beal is tough, many he moves back to starter and Grayson and Jones go separately but as a package deal to someone like Orlando.

But for what return? I'd consider an Allen to Orlando trade IF/only IF the Denver 25' was also coming back in the deal. And maybe another solid young player? What other teams do we think would have a legitimate interest in Allen though and could return a backup center option or frontcourt big/two-way defensive wing with size and three-point shooting? :dontknow:

TeamTragic · Post #180 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:07 pm

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If giving up a freakin' 1st just to dump Nurkic, then this trade right here is the trade that the Suns NEED TO MAKE!!! nURKIC/ CLE 26 1st for Mitchell Robinson/ Tyler Kolek/ Pacom Dadiet!!

Let's finally quit all the stupidity and redundancy and make an actual movie that makes a ton of sense!!

Knicks hang up the phone and block our number.