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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA 

Post#1801 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:13 pm

So first Jimmy goes crazy,

Now Terry goes criminal?

This season is really the gift that keeps giving eh.

Only development left is us acquiring Julius Randle.

And losing Ware in that trade.
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Post#1802 » by BBallFreak » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:14 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:So first Jimmy goes crazy,

Now Terry goes criminal?

This season is really the gift that keeps giving eh.

Only development left is us acquiring Julius Randle.

And losing Ware in that trade.

Don't forget Dwayne Wade's cancer diagnosis.
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Post#1803 » by batterybro42 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:16 pm

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batterybro42 wrote:This is actually the most positive Heat news I have seen in some time. Not only are we going to get out of the 52 million next year for Butler but we might get out of the near 27 million we owe to Rozier, we also have an early termination clause on Duncan's contract

We could be sitting here in the summer with over 60 million dollars in cap space, and potentially a 50+ million dollar trade exception if Butler opts out and we don't move him at the deadline.

Need to convey this pick this year if a move doesn't materialize we could tank next season and take on a bunch of really bad expiring deals next year for draft captial.

The early termination option is Duncan's, and I wouldn't expect him to terminate the contract unless the Heat are ready to sign him longer term at a lower but still healthy number ... which would once again be a mistake.


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Post#1804 » by KingHomer21 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:18 pm

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KingHomer21 wrote:Y'all really don't want to re-sign Duncan? I think his skillset, IQ, and chemistry is hard to find and he is a lot more valuable to the Heat in its pursuit of a championship. In both recent Finals appearances, he directly contributed to the 3 wins.


I would love to resign Duncan on a team friendly deal

His ETO is 9.8 million next year so i would say that’s a fair market offer to extend at if they want to go that route. At this point i have no illusions the Heat org views him as a lifer. It would save the Heat 10 million in cap space next year if they did something like this which would help them stay away from tax while maintaining the contract to trade.



Music to my ears. I've been following Duncan since his g league days - even remember his first in-game dunk his first year with the Heat. Great Heat story closely similar to a UD trajectory.
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Post#1805 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:22 pm

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Post#1806 » by Bmaster » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:23 pm

Heat should just take Bradley Beal contract. With Rozier situation heat will have plenty of cap room for beals contract
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Post#1807 » by BBallFreak » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:24 pm

Bmaster wrote:Heat should just take Bradley Beal contract. With Rozier situation heat will have plenty of cap room for beals contract

Not how that works and no way in hell
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Post#1808 » by Bmaster » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:25 pm

Heat going to be hurting for scoring if Rozier can't play. Hope jacquez is ready
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Post#1809 » by powerball1373 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:27 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Traded or arrested is the outlook for Feb, it seems

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If Riles pulls off getting out of the Rozier deal for nothing, he's even more GOATed than I thought imaginable.

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Post#1810 » by DayofMourning » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:28 pm

Bmaster wrote:Heat should just take Bradley Beal contract. With Rozier situation heat will have plenty of cap room for beals contract


Get Beal and Randle and start stacking chips.
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Post#1811 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:28 pm

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Bmaster wrote:Heat should just take Bradley Beal contract. With Rozier situation heat will have plenty of cap room for beals contract

Not how that works and no way in hell

57 million in the final year of that deal. Surely we can be spending that money more wisely. Beal’s contract is an absolute no go
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Post#1812 » by powerball1373 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:31 pm

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powerball1373 wrote:Just watched the end of the OKC - Warriors game. Yeah, ain't no way they giving up Wiggs, Schroeder, GP2, and Looney for Jimmy lol. Hell, Wiggins alone may be better than Jimmy at this point.


Recency bias at his finest. Warriors have been mid like Heat and are out of the play in tournament. Wiggins been fine 17 pts 44 FG % which isn't really that efficient or impressive. And not even close to Jimmy. The rest of the role players have been fine to mid. The Warriors package isn't something to crow about. The only thing of value we would get from Warriors is their picks. Wiggins or any of the role players might help win a few games here and there but are not going to change the trajectory of this team. Thats why FO should stick with the plan of no contracts past 2026.


My argument isn't that the Warriors players are great. I was half-joking about the game last night. The point is that Jimmy is mid too and wouldn't change the Warriors trajectory at all either.
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Post#1813 » by MorbidHEAT » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:31 pm

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Post#1814 » by MorbidHEAT » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:34 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Sacramento fans are hot for Ware. They think we'll trade him and Herro, plus picks, for Fox. I'm not seeing it.


That isn’t going to happen. Herro isn’t going anywhere. Pairing Fox with Herro and Bam is the idea.
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Post#1815 » by batterybro42 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:35 pm

There is absolutely nothing wrong with just holding onto Butler and not playing him
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Post#1816 » by EMC5466 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:35 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
Bmaster wrote:Heat should just take Bradley Beal contract. With Rozier situation heat will have plenty of cap room for beals contract

Not how that works and no way in hell

57 million in the final year of that deal. Surely we can be spending that money more wisely. Beal’s contract is an absolute no go

We may not have a choice.
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Post#1817 » by MorbidHEAT » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:36 pm

KingHomer21 wrote:Y'all really don't want to re-sign Duncan? I think his skillset, IQ, and chemistry is hard to find and he is a lot more valuable to the Heat in it's pursuit of a championship. In both recent Finals appearances, he directly contributed to the 3 wins.


I would absolutely resign Duncan. I don’t even care if he gets a multi-year contract, as long as it’s for a reasonable price. Dude is a good player to have around.
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Post#1818 » by batterybro42 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:39 pm

EMC5466 wrote:
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BBallFreak wrote:Not how that works and no way in hell

57 million in the final year of that deal. Surely we can be spending that money more wisely. Beal’s contract is an absolute no go

We may not have a choice.


Nobody is holding a gun to our head saying we have to trade Butler for a negative value contract. He can stay on the team, and then if he wants to be a big boy he can opt out of his contract and give us a 50+ million dollar trade exception.

If it’s Beal or he stays, I’m all the way in the camp of suspending him for the entirety of his contract length if he wants to be a crazy person. He can be 36 going on 37 the next time he plays basketball for all I care about it.
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Post#1819 » by MorbidHEAT » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:39 pm

EMC5466 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Not how that works and no way in hell

57 million in the final year of that deal. Surely we can be spending that money more wisely. Beal’s contract is an absolute no go

We may not have a choice.


I saw Jimmy’s 56 point performance against the Bucks yesterday l, and I didn’t get as much joy out of it. Jimmy’s off court performance is about to damage us more than he ever helped on the court. I hope they don’t budge on Beal, but I got a bad feeling that they will. We may end up with Beal and multiple picks. Hopefully they just don’t trade him for now if that’s the case.
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Post#1820 » by EMC5466 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:39 pm

batterybro42 wrote:There is absolutely nothing wrong with just holding onto Butler and not playing him

It didn’t go so well for the last few teams that held him against his will.

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