Spurs Trade Options for the 2024/25 trade window

[DorianRo]

You better make a good move/moves next year SA front office is all I can say or Wemby is gone boys. Old ass scrub CP3 and G-leaguers won't cut it

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It's the halfway point of the season and we've lost our way, looking like a rudderless ship without a captain, going in circles.

We look like a team one game out of every four or so now, and in that one game we compete for more of the given minutes. In the rest, we show up for half a game, half a quarter, etc.

I've read quotes from post-game Wemby answers recently and he alludes to not competing hard in practice and some guys not really absorbing the scouting reports.

If true, I'd love to know 1. Who the hell isn't competing hard in practice, 2. Who isn't bothering with scouring reports all that much, and 3. Why are they getting playing time?

We clearly need Pop back to steady and right the ship. Beyond that, we have enough Spurs Way tutelage to be individually responsible and work hard in practice and in studying the film and scouting reports. I mean, come on man, these are basic fundamental aspects to preparation.

And to tie in with this thread, whoever shows a consistent lack of GAFness can GTFO. Let's scour the league for GAFness players and get them here.

Hopefully it's a backup C lol but yeah we have a lot of work to do, not the least of which is better utilizing the players we do have rather than having them be spectators with the best seats, better sets execution and shot selection, better haul ass hustle, better BBIQ.

Teams behind us with not as good overall talent have leaped ahead of us. All the teams except two ahead is us in the West standings are on winning streaks.

Yes we are young but we are not as inexperienced. We are not playing like the sum of our parts but like players who are individually trying to figure some things out and it's hurting our team. It's not bad in and of itself but if it's too far outside our sets and team first concept it disrupts what we are trying to do with said team concept.

January was always going to be a huge rest and frankly going into it we got off kilter with weird rotations and line ups and schemes that threw us off rhythm and our of team first ways. But for some flashes, we haven't really gotten back on that track.

Feels like we're vulnerable and looking for ways to strengthen our resolve. Back to basics. Put in the work or get guys who want to. And we need our leader back.

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So, a buyer, then?

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https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278952/Kings-To-Open-Up-DeAaron-Fox-Trade-Talks-Ahead-Of-Deadline

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I think we hold onto Castle and Dev is the main piece.

I think Keldon *might* get traded as well if there's a third team involved.

I think we have to see what we have in Sidy at some point and he slots into the backup 2/3 who guards multiple positions.

I think Tre and his expiring contract may get traded as well.

We did draft Juan Nunez recently and have yet to bring him over.

Just as long as the unprotected picks and Castle stay put I'm just about good with anyone else going. Just about. But there's so much to consider - team culture and morale, long term ability to sustain success with now huge upcoming contracts, of course fit with Wemby of primary concern.

We need to address back up big situation in the worst way short term, so if we could swing for that as well it would be a great coup.

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I think we hold onto Castle and Dev is the main piece.

I think Keldon *might* get traded as well if there's a third team involved.

I think we have to see what we have in Sidy at some point and he slots into the backup 2/3 who guards multiple positions.

I think Tre and his expiring contract may get traded as well.

We did draft Juan Nunez recently and have yet to bring him over.

Just as long as the unprotected picks and Castle stay put I'm just about good with anyone else going. Just about. But there's so much to consider - team culture and morale, long term ability to sustain success with now huge upcoming contracts, of course fit with Wemby of primary concern.

We need to address back up big situation in the worst way short term, so if we could swing for that as well it would be a great coup.

I agree. At this point everyone but Castle can go IMO.

There are stories that Fox has zero interest in joining the Lakers. Thats a plus for me

Also, I'm really not that excited about Fox. I dont think he is some kind of franchise game changer. He hasn't won diddly squat with Sacramento.
I am however excited about getting rid of some of the dead weight we have on our roster and Fox is better than any of them.

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I think we hold onto Castle and Dev is the main piece.

I think Keldon *might* get traded as well if there's a third team involved.

I think we have to see what we have in Sidy at some point and he slots into the backup 2/3 who guards multiple positions.

I think Tre and his expiring contract may get traded as well.

We did draft Juan Nunez recently and have yet to bring him over.

Just as long as the unprotected picks and Castle stay put I'm just about good with anyone else going. Just about. But there's so much to consider - team culture and morale, long term ability to sustain success with now huge upcoming contracts, of course fit with Wemby of primary concern.

We need to address back up big situation in the worst way short term, so if we could swing for that as well it would be a great coup.

I agree. At this point everyone but Castle can go IMO.

There are stories that Fox has zero interest in joining the Lakers. Thats a plus for me

Also, I'm really not that excited about Fox. I dont think he is some kind of franchise game changer. He hasn't won diddly squat with Sacramento.
I am however excited about getting rid of some of the dead weight we have on our roster and Fox is better than any of them.

Yeah it's about the chance to consolidate at this point.

Wemby timeline being what it is, we can ill afford another 13 rookies or whatever we have.

But with a lot of dead weight as you said and a star player, he instantly and clearly becomes the second best player, and that instantly makes us less vulnerable in the Wemby-less minutes.

Like I love Castle but the kid can't shoot yet. It's a skill he has to hone. And we added only two vets who know how to play their positions to this roster and we are two games shy of last season's W total already.

Now imagine a pure PG who actually wants to come here and so will be willing to extend. It's a big threshold.

But not one we should overpay for. Like you said, Fox hasn't taken his team far yet. One could question the building around him; Sabonis is probably the Fox equivalent at his position. Wemby is tiers above that, and this is clearly his team. Fox in a secondary role is interesting.

Still, there are other stars who want to come here and play alongside Wemby. This is just the first domino. We nevertheless need picks to shore up talent around them. I'd give the Kings their unprotected 1st back, for instance, Chicago's, but would be loathe to part with Atl's unprotected picks.

There a deal to be made here, probably including a third team if not more so we part with some assets and keep others, while yes doing some wheat from chaff separating of the current roster.

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Time for some BD Energy.

We *don't have to* make a Fox trade. We're reportedly top of the list and the last time a Klutch client had a team at the top of his list we ended up with three unprotected picks.

Now Hawks' Green got injured, they're reeling having lost six in a row, and the 2025 pick is getting more important by the game.

We don't send this pick anywhere unless it's entirely lotto protected. 2025 and 2026 have long been covered draft years. I think it's better to see where our picks land than overpay with unprotected picks.

Fox wants us, we'll still be here in 2026. Kings have been winning with Fox not playing his best basketball. In fact, this season he's averaging a pedestrian 46.8% FG and only 32.4% from 3. He's a bucket, no doubt, but I'm just saying, it may be better for us to wait till the summer post draft to see which deals - and which other players - are available to get if the asking price is too high now.

We are in a win-win position. We don't make a trade, we are still leagues better than last season just with adding two vets and an improved Wemby.

I actually think getting a quality back up big would go a long way this season in giving us a competitive edge. And we keep all our assets to make the move that's best for us.

Our leverage is of course Wemby. I'm not saying do nothing. That may not send the right team improvement effort message. I am saying that some of the Fox packages I've seen, and some have used Bridges to NYK as a comparison starting point, with a suggested Castle, Sochan, five **** picks is a laugh as you hang up the phone situation. Like the idea here is he's supposed to cost less than the better scoring and passing, more efficient, younger Trae Young, yes? Yes, then there's the defense. Fox has the edge. But there are very very few players I'd part with unprotected picks for, like Luka level. This has to be established.

Lots of stars really wanting to play with Wemby also plays to our advantage.

Plus, and I can't overstate this, I do not want Klutch's tentacles anywhere near Wemby. And they've been trying hard and repeatedly. So time to do us a favor and free Fox for a reasonable cost else we give up consolidated cache of prized assets and precious cap space in an upcoming extension.

Fox is a high end acquisition. But he's also not a guy who is leading his team to a championship as the #1 option. Getting a quality #2 guy is important. Is this the time to get him? We extend him, this contract also lines up with Wemby's prime as well as with it ending in Wemby's prime which would give us some financial flexibility in a crucial time.

Lots to consider. Get protections on these picks otherwise keep them. Get a back up big in the meantime.

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This is what I mean. Gut your team and give us your entire best young prospects and picks and oh it may not be enough. Nah...

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Per wiretap:

Kings Seeking Win-Now Players, Draft Capital In De'Aaron Fox Trade Talks


https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278969/Kings-Seeking-Win-Now-Players-Draft-Capital-In-DeAaron-Fox-Trade-Talks

Ok so even with, say, Devin involved, there would likely have to be a third team involved. I've heard Utah bandied about with Sexton being moved.

[Ballings7]

I would not give up the following for Fox

Castle. Nope. Idea is to play Castle with Fox (or another star-level lead guard), and another wing in time of the 6'7" - 6'8" mold.

Vassell and Sochan.. one or the other, would have to, probably - so fine. Both if had to, maybe; hopefully not both. I'd rather keep Sochan over Vassell because he's more unique on the team and still developing, getting better offensively; defense and rebounding ahead of offense.


Castle/Vassell/Sochan + multiple picks? No way.

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How about we throw in NBA perennial superstar Julian Champagnie to make this happen!!!!! LETS GO!!!!!!!!!

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Huh... Not even bothering with subtlety now:

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We'll see...

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This can change by the hour/rumour/negotiation, but for now...

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Ok make it Fox and Keegan, then ...

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Ok make it Fox and Keegan, then ...

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This is the NBA. No one honors their contracts anymore.(players anyway) I dont see why he wouldnt wait and sign a supermax and then demand a trade.

Also, no one is saying it but I think behind the scenes he doesn't like playing with DeRozan. I don't think its about not trading for Collins or Johnson at all. We have seen it first hand. DeRozan is good at what he does but he sucks the life out of an offense. Fox was the man before and had a green light. Now he has to watch DeRozan dominate the ball constantly.